From: devilhntrx@aol.com (DevilHntrX)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 18:50:53 EDT
<As I've said before, the ability to whack 15 fellow upper-ranker's one more time than they whack you does not constitute worthiness of holding such an esteemed rank (and one with such power) as the Overlordship. It takes more...a lot more.>
Oh...So then, Wacking one more guy makes makes it any differant?
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:09:13 EDT
>>Oh...So then, Wacking one more guy makes makes it any differant?<<
Nope, the Test, in my eyes, is a symbolic way for the Overlord to make formal protest over the ability of the Challenger to hold the Crown with honor and dignity. Beating one extra person doesn't, to me, make them any more worthy than before the Test, but there's not much, save Challenging, that you can do at that point.
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Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:09:13 EDT
>>Oh...So then, Wacking one more guy makes makes it any differant?<<
Nope, the Test, in my eyes, is a symbolic way for the Overlord to make formal protest over the ability of the Challenger to hold the Crown with honor and dignity. Beating one extra person doesn't, to me, make them any more worthy than before the Test, but there's not much, save Challenging, that you can do at that point.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:22:10 EDT
Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.
The White Duke
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:22:10 EDT
Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:22:10 EDT
Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.
The White Duke
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:22:10 EDT
Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.
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From: gudarien@aol.com (Gudarien)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:36:00 EDT
Actually, I would prefer not to go around "Whacking" anyone.
Gudarien Caldwell
Date: 06 Aug 1998 19:36:00 EDT
Actually, I would prefer not to go around "Whacking" anyone.
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 20:30:06 EDT
>>Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.<<
Yes, Percival, I already know what it's original use was, and in some instances still is. I was simply stating it's use in my eyes.
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Date: 06 Aug 1998 20:30:06 EDT
>>Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.<<
Yes, Percival, I already know what it's original use was, and in some instances still is. I was simply stating it's use in my eyes.
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From: xvevan@aol.com (XvEvan)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:36:46 EDT
>>I never said any thing about over using the Test, but using the Test to keep some one who Dal thinks is not worthy of the crown away from it, though he would gladly let a friend try and take it. <<
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what the Test is supposed to be...to test the worthiness of the challenger to wear the crown?
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Why did ya think I stepped in. ***I*** thought he was worthy. Like it or not, he did challenge with out much bickering over these boards, and did it low key. He cuased no problem.
-Evan Rush Rynth
Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:36:46 EDT
>>I never said any thing about over using the Test, but using the Test to keep some one who Dal thinks is not worthy of the crown away from it, though he would gladly let a friend try and take it. <<
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what the Test is supposed to be...to test the worthiness of the challenger to wear the crown?
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Why did ya think I stepped in. ***I*** thought he was worthy. Like it or not, he did challenge with out much bickering over these boards, and did it low key. He cuased no problem.
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From: xvevan@aol.com (XvEvan)
Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:41:16 EDT
>>Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.<<
Yes, Percival, I already know what it's original use was, and in some instances still is. I was simply stating it's use in my eyes.
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This is an award winning number. Hell, I was not here during those times. If I might ask this, who changed the meaning of this "Testing"?
-Evan Rush Rynth
Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:41:16 EDT
>>Actually, Sidartha, the original reason for the Test of Worthiness was that if an Overlord thought his opponent was not sufficiently skilled to be worthy of his attention, the Test would weed him out. Cause the Baron or Warlord chosen would smack him, and the Overlord wouldn't have to waste his time.<<
Yes, Percival, I already know what it's original use was, and in some instances still is. I was simply stating it's use in my eyes.
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This is an award winning number. Hell, I was not here during those times. If I might ask this, who changed the meaning of this "Testing"?
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 07 Aug 1998 18:36:27 EDT
This is an award winning number. Hell, I was not here during those times. If I might ask this, who changed the meaning of this "Testing"?
-Evan Rush Rynth<<
::throws her hands up in disgust before taking up the pen to write::
Evan~
I never said it was officially changed. I said it was the meaning I gave it to my mind. My mind....no one elses.
Stop reading into peoples' posts what is not there.
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Date: 07 Aug 1998 18:36:27 EDT
This is an award winning number. Hell, I was not here during those times. If I might ask this, who changed the meaning of this "Testing"?
-Evan Rush Rynth<<
::throws her hands up in disgust before taking up the pen to write::
Evan~
I never said it was officially changed. I said it was the meaning I gave it to my mind. My mind....no one elses.
Stop reading into peoples' posts what is not there.
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 07 Aug 1998 18:37:46 EDT
>>Why did ya think I stepped in. ***I*** thought he was worthy. Like it or not, he did challenge with out much bickering over these boards, and did it low key. He cuased no problem.<<
::chuckles::
Remember, though, that it's the quiet ones you always have to look out for.
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Date: 07 Aug 1998 18:37:46 EDT
>>Why did ya think I stepped in. ***I*** thought he was worthy. Like it or not, he did challenge with out much bickering over these boards, and did it low key. He cuased no problem.<<
::chuckles::
Remember, though, that it's the quiet ones you always have to look out for.
::fancy ducks and flees::
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From: xvevan@aol.com (XvEvan)
Date: 07 Aug 1998 19:32:02 EDT
Evan~
I never said it was officially changed. I said it was the meaning I gave it to my mind. My mind....no one elses.
Stop reading into peoples' posts what is not there.
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Date: 07 Aug 1998 19:32:02 EDT
Evan~
I never said it was officially changed. I said it was the meaning I gave it to my mind. My mind....no one elses.
Stop reading into peoples' posts what is not there.
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From: devilhntrx@aol.com (DevilHntrX)
Date: 08 Aug 1998 14:21:22 EDT
::Runs over to the boards and reads the posts:: ::Chuckles and tacks one up of his own::
What is this, some kind of duel to see who has the better explanation?
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Date: 08 Aug 1998 14:21:22 EDT
::Runs over to the boards and reads the posts:: ::Chuckles and tacks one up of his own::
What is this, some kind of duel to see who has the better explanation?
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 08 Aug 1998 18:00:25 EDT
>>I read nothing into your damned post. I clearly stated that you were tring ta make it *right* for Dal to Test based on another way than what the test was supposed to be used for.
<<
Evan~
Who are you to tell me what my opinion should be? I'm simply stating my opinion. Don't like it? Too bad.
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Date: 08 Aug 1998 18:00:25 EDT
>>I read nothing into your damned post. I clearly stated that you were tring ta make it *right* for Dal to Test based on another way than what the test was supposed to be used for.
<<
Evan~
Who are you to tell me what my opinion should be? I'm simply stating my opinion. Don't like it? Too bad.
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From: drakewyni@aol.com (Drakewyn I)
Date: 09 Aug 1998 20:59:33 EDT
<<I read nothing into your damned post. I clearly stated that you were tring ta make it *right* for Dal to Test based on another way than what the test was supposed to be used for.>>
Baron Evan.
And now you help form a House who is against the very idea of the Test... yet with these words, you -seem- to be indicating that the Test has a purpose... Which is it, truely?
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon
Date: 09 Aug 1998 20:59:33 EDT
<<I read nothing into your damned post. I clearly stated that you were tring ta make it *right* for Dal to Test based on another way than what the test was supposed to be used for.>>
Baron Evan.
And now you help form a House who is against the very idea of the Test... yet with these words, you -seem- to be indicating that the Test has a purpose... Which is it, truely?
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From: randaltan@aol.com (Rand alTan)
Date: 14 Aug 1998 00:06:57 EDT
Rand al'Tan
- With held a sum of 25 WoL at the time of challenge
- Has worn a Baronial ring in the past
- Was placed 1st among his peers apon the Warlord's Corner
- Has been an active member within the DoS Community in the past
Seraph (Gaejin)
- With held a sum of 22 WoL at the time of challenge
- Has yet to earn a baronial ring
- Was placed 12th among his peers apon the Warlord's Corner
- To our knowledge, has yet to display dislike, or good will, towards the community
Patrons of the Arena,
I am curious as to how this applies. No, that is not correct. I believe I know how this applies, for each of these things are factors into how people decide who is or is not worthy. However, this is such a meager part, that, as far as my way of measuring worth, is almost negligible. I prefer to explore the duelists themselves, to see what kind of person they are, and how they react to different situations. The worst swordsman or woman, in my
mind, could be the most worthy of a position of authority.
I cannot, however, discount that statistics are important in the Duel of Swords. The Overlord is defined to be the Supreme Dueler. That would mean the duelist with the most wins, best rank, best current streak, the list is too long, there are too many factors.
Dalamar has shown himself to be Supreme in every challenge he has fought, for he has won them all. This doesn't mean that he is always the best, for I'm certain that he loses now and then, even while others win thirty duels in a row. But when it comes to the rank and title, the Duel of Swords cannot change it's Ovelord on a daily basis.
The real question is what makes someone worthy. Are you judging that person's worth as a person? Or are you judging that person's worth of bladesmastery? As I see it, the Duel of Swords cannot afford, and could not ever make decisions based on a person's personality. The sport we know so well knows us only as numbers, percentages, statistics, and it's rules are written revolving around that. It is we as creatures with feelings, emotions,
stereotypes, and biases that cause the difficulties when it comes to "worthiness."
Think on this, I know I still am.
Sincerely,
-Rand al'Tan
Date: 14 Aug 1998 00:06:57 EDT
Rand al'Tan
- With held a sum of 25 WoL at the time of challenge
- Has worn a Baronial ring in the past
- Was placed 1st among his peers apon the Warlord's Corner
- Has been an active member within the DoS Community in the past
Seraph (Gaejin)
- With held a sum of 22 WoL at the time of challenge
- Has yet to earn a baronial ring
- Was placed 12th among his peers apon the Warlord's Corner
- To our knowledge, has yet to display dislike, or good will, towards the community
Patrons of the Arena,
I am curious as to how this applies. No, that is not correct. I believe I know how this applies, for each of these things are factors into how people decide who is or is not worthy. However, this is such a meager part, that, as far as my way of measuring worth, is almost negligible. I prefer to explore the duelists themselves, to see what kind of person they are, and how they react to different situations. The worst swordsman or woman, in my
mind, could be the most worthy of a position of authority.
I cannot, however, discount that statistics are important in the Duel of Swords. The Overlord is defined to be the Supreme Dueler. That would mean the duelist with the most wins, best rank, best current streak, the list is too long, there are too many factors.
Dalamar has shown himself to be Supreme in every challenge he has fought, for he has won them all. This doesn't mean that he is always the best, for I'm certain that he loses now and then, even while others win thirty duels in a row. But when it comes to the rank and title, the Duel of Swords cannot change it's Ovelord on a daily basis.
The real question is what makes someone worthy. Are you judging that person's worth as a person? Or are you judging that person's worth of bladesmastery? As I see it, the Duel of Swords cannot afford, and could not ever make decisions based on a person's personality. The sport we know so well knows us only as numbers, percentages, statistics, and it's rules are written revolving around that. It is we as creatures with feelings, emotions,
stereotypes, and biases that cause the difficulties when it comes to "worthiness."
Think on this, I know I still am.
Sincerely,
-Rand al'Tan