From: marzan@aol.com (Marzan)
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:14:24 EST
This letter is specifically intended for Baron Eques, but is also appropriate to
Baron DragonBane.
Baron Magnus Eques,
I was approached by the Warlord Daelin and recieved a far different version of my conversation with the other eve than what actually transpired. The version, apparently, he heard from you. He says that you claim that You asked me why I was silent during his Challenge, and that I would not answer you.
Magnus, The truth, as we know... Your Question was, "Why didn't you root for Daelin?" I did not answer at first. Your loyalty and motives were clearly in question, and I felt it was a personal question. Nonetheless, I chose to answer you, after reflection. I explained that it was because they are both friends of mine (Daelin and Lord Uziel.) It's that simple. You can try and try and dig and dig, but you are not going to find what you are
apparently accustomed to in this Overlord. I mean what I say, and I am a man of my word. I am not one of changing loyalties. (entire transcript of my conversation with you available on request.)
Magnus, That brings us to my intercession stance. This clear stance was sent to you, along with the other twelve Barons. Again, let me repeat: If a Loyal Baron asks for Intercession, I will grant it unless there is a very good reason not to. It is Black and White. No Interpretation Necessary. You should have considered this at the time you recieved these words, weeks ago, and set your alignment at that time. I have been very clear from the
start with you as to my stance on intercession. I do not know how I could have possibly made it any clearer. Now that this has been made perfectly clear, as it has several times before, if any Barons wish to change their alignments at this time, I urge them to follow their convictions. I will not allow the Integrity of This Crown to be tarnished with threats and manipulation.
I assume that you and and Baron DragonBane recieved forewarning of what I planned to do last eve. By declaring your alignments, you both beat me to it. As I stated in the presence of others, I fully intended to set both of your alignments as Renegade to The Crown.
Let me say this; The Barons who stand Loyal with me know who I am and what I stand for. They have offered their Loyalty unconditionally, trusting in what they know of my character and Integrity. They also know they have the option, at any time to change that alignment, if I betray their expectations.
Magnus, Since I became Overlord, you have been attempting to influence me with the threat of changing alignment. You threatened when The Overlord had not even been deceased for 48 hours. You threatened when I was in mourning. You threatened before I had even had time to consider anything but that a great and Honorable man that I respected deeply had died in the ring. Your Loyalty was initially offered conditionally. In hindsight, that is the
point at which I should have set your alignment Renegade. Similiarly, the night before Huma's Challenge, he wrote me that were I to intercede, he would declare Renegade. Both of you have known my official stance for weeks.
I notice that in virtually every letter and bit on the corkboard, yourself and Baron Dragonbane say something to the effect of "I consider Eros a friend, but..... ".... and then coming up with some unprincipled or transparent reason for your actions. Why do you label me as friend? My friends know me. They know who I am. What I stand for. They trust in my conceptions of Honor and Integrity. My friends are Loyal. My Friends do not threaten me.
My friends do not seek to blackmail me, or manipulate me.
Good Luck, Renegade Barons Magnus Eques and Huma DragonBane. May You Duel and Live with Honor.
~~~~~~~So Mote it Be~~~~~~~~~
Lord Eros Marzanhe Hunrai' DeBurgo
XXIX Overlord of Swords
Renegade Barons Magnus Eques and Huma DragonBane
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From: drakewyni@aol.com (Drakewyn I)
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:24:50 EST
The Baroness Drakewyn Anastasia Alabaster Silvertree remains Loyal to Overlord Eros Marzanhe Hunrai' DeBurgo.
Should I retain the Tenth Ring, I will ask to stand against any Renegade Baron who offers challenge for spurious reasons, or offers challenge without respect and honor.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon.
Date: 15 Feb 1999 23:24:50 EST
The Baroness Drakewyn Anastasia Alabaster Silvertree remains Loyal to Overlord Eros Marzanhe Hunrai' DeBurgo.
Should I retain the Tenth Ring, I will ask to stand against any Renegade Baron who offers challenge for spurious reasons, or offers challenge without respect and honor.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon.
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From: morganfay@aol.com (MorganFay)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 00:32:35 EST
I, a mere Warlord, offer my blade to champion the Overlord against manipulative wretches such as the both of you, Magnus and Huma.
Date: 16 Feb 1999 00:32:35 EST
I, a mere Warlord, offer my blade to champion the Overlord against manipulative wretches such as the both of you, Magnus and Huma.
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From: jakemheart@aol.com (JakeMHeart)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 01:17:53 EST
One last thing to say...
I hereby intend on challenging, Magnus Eques next cycle. Just like Drake did, I shall do to Magnus. Except - which is a big difference - He will not have a chance to change my mind. I consider his views with test of worthiness, not to my liking. To hear him be offensive of Eros not rooting for Daelin. Why did he become loyal in the first place? Shouldn't he have asked Marzan about the Test of Worthiness before he set his alignment? I am also
a "by myself" type of duelist. I duel for me and only myself. An all-time renegade. Therefore, being Eros's opposition, Even though I may not challenge him. Many of you may not agree, many might agree. If I just happen to find something good about this man, or a faulter in Eros's defense as overlord, I will surely change my mind from challenging, Magnus, or IF I become baron, change my alignment to a most likely neutral position.
If you notice anything different in the style of writing or the freshness, staleness or idiotic - to your minds - talk of mine, it's because of one reason. Jake is no longer around. He is dead. And yes, you may have a party. But I stand by my word to challenge Magnus even though many do not like the reasons or anything else. It's my choice.
As a side note, the name is Galent, but as you can see by my appearances, It's still Jake's body. Get used to it, I may be around for a while...
I expect to see replies to this missive. Please - enjoy.
Galent BlueStone
New Lord of Ice
Now second in command in...
The clan of Lord Miro Lancaster Shiro-Le Frast
Jake's spirit controller
Date: 16 Feb 1999 01:17:53 EST
One last thing to say...
I hereby intend on challenging, Magnus Eques next cycle. Just like Drake did, I shall do to Magnus. Except - which is a big difference - He will not have a chance to change my mind. I consider his views with test of worthiness, not to my liking. To hear him be offensive of Eros not rooting for Daelin. Why did he become loyal in the first place? Shouldn't he have asked Marzan about the Test of Worthiness before he set his alignment? I am also
a "by myself" type of duelist. I duel for me and only myself. An all-time renegade. Therefore, being Eros's opposition, Even though I may not challenge him. Many of you may not agree, many might agree. If I just happen to find something good about this man, or a faulter in Eros's defense as overlord, I will surely change my mind from challenging, Magnus, or IF I become baron, change my alignment to a most likely neutral position.
If you notice anything different in the style of writing or the freshness, staleness or idiotic - to your minds - talk of mine, it's because of one reason. Jake is no longer around. He is dead. And yes, you may have a party. But I stand by my word to challenge Magnus even though many do not like the reasons or anything else. It's my choice.
As a side note, the name is Galent, but as you can see by my appearances, It's still Jake's body. Get used to it, I may be around for a while...
I expect to see replies to this missive. Please - enjoy.
Galent BlueStone
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From: jakemheart@aol.com (JakeMHeart)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 01:17:53 EST
One last thing to say...
I hereby intend on challenging, Magnus Eques next cycle. Just like Drake did, I shall do to Magnus. Except - which is a big difference - He will not have a chance to change my mind. I consider his views with test of worthiness, not to my liking. To hear him be offensive of Eros not rooting for Daelin. Why did he become loyal in the first place? Shouldn't he have asked Marzan about the Test of Worthiness before he set his alignment? I am also
a "by myself" type of duelist. I duel for me and only myself. An all-time renegade. Therefore, being Eros's opposition, Even though I may not challenge him. Many of you may not agree, many might agree. If I just happen to find something good about this man, or a faulter in Eros's defense as overlord, I will surely change my mind from challenging, Magnus, or IF I become baron, change my alignment to a most likely neutral position.
If you notice anything different in the style of writing or the freshness, staleness or idiotic - to your minds - talk of mine, it's because of one reason. Jake is no longer around. He is dead. And yes, you may have a party. But I stand by my word to challenge Magnus even though many do not like the reasons or anything else. It's my choice.
As a side note, the name is Galent, but as you can see by my appearances, It's still Jake's body. Get used to it, I may be around for a while...
I expect to see replies to this missive. Please - enjoy.
Galent BlueStone
New Lord of Ice
Now second in command in...
The clan of Lord Miro Lancaster Shiro-Le Frast
Jake's spirit controller
Date: 16 Feb 1999 01:17:53 EST
One last thing to say...
I hereby intend on challenging, Magnus Eques next cycle. Just like Drake did, I shall do to Magnus. Except - which is a big difference - He will not have a chance to change my mind. I consider his views with test of worthiness, not to my liking. To hear him be offensive of Eros not rooting for Daelin. Why did he become loyal in the first place? Shouldn't he have asked Marzan about the Test of Worthiness before he set his alignment? I am also
a "by myself" type of duelist. I duel for me and only myself. An all-time renegade. Therefore, being Eros's opposition, Even though I may not challenge him. Many of you may not agree, many might agree. If I just happen to find something good about this man, or a faulter in Eros's defense as overlord, I will surely change my mind from challenging, Magnus, or IF I become baron, change my alignment to a most likely neutral position.
If you notice anything different in the style of writing or the freshness, staleness or idiotic - to your minds - talk of mine, it's because of one reason. Jake is no longer around. He is dead. And yes, you may have a party. But I stand by my word to challenge Magnus even though many do not like the reasons or anything else. It's my choice.
As a side note, the name is Galent, but as you can see by my appearances, It's still Jake's body. Get used to it, I may be around for a while...
I expect to see replies to this missive. Please - enjoy.
Galent BlueStone
New Lord of Ice
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From: khrystawlf@aol.com (KhrystaWlf)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:46:04 EST
I know that it is not customary for those not of the Rank of Baron to declare an alignment, however I wish it known that I have. Be it known that Khrysta Wûlfgar is Loyal to the crown. Should I ever happen to attain the rank of Warlord, I also offer my sword in intercession against spurious or disrepectful challenge to the crown.
Khrys
Date: 16 Feb 1999 09:46:04 EST
I know that it is not customary for those not of the Rank of Baron to declare an alignment, however I wish it known that I have. Be it known that Khrysta Wûlfgar is Loyal to the crown. Should I ever happen to attain the rank of Warlord, I also offer my sword in intercession against spurious or disrepectful challenge to the crown.
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From: carnage669@aol.com (Carnage669)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 16:18:34 EST
First off Jake, or whoever the hell you are, Magnus never declared himself Loyal to the current Overlord. He went Nuetral and stated that once the test had been used, or once the Overlord stepped in for a Baron, he would re-align himself Renegade. He made no attempt to hide this fact.
Morgan, your comment, as usual, was an uncalled for attack against the two Barons. The Overlord has stated what he said honorably and your attack has tainted those words.
Overlord, I have one question for you. Baron Uziel has stated on these boards that his loyalty is conditional (correct me if I am wrong). Does this Baron recieve the same treatment as the Barons Magnus and Huma, or are we setting a double standard already?
Come one, come all, I'm open to be attacked as most of you seem to do oh so well.
Cletus
Humble Warlord of DoS
Date: 16 Feb 1999 16:18:34 EST
First off Jake, or whoever the hell you are, Magnus never declared himself Loyal to the current Overlord. He went Nuetral and stated that once the test had been used, or once the Overlord stepped in for a Baron, he would re-align himself Renegade. He made no attempt to hide this fact.
Morgan, your comment, as usual, was an uncalled for attack against the two Barons. The Overlord has stated what he said honorably and your attack has tainted those words.
Overlord, I have one question for you. Baron Uziel has stated on these boards that his loyalty is conditional (correct me if I am wrong). Does this Baron recieve the same treatment as the Barons Magnus and Huma, or are we setting a double standard already?
Come one, come all, I'm open to be attacked as most of you seem to do oh so well.
Cletus
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From: jakemheart@aol.com (JakeMHeart)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:03:15 EST
Excuse my mistake Cletus. And please, it's Galent. I will still, hold my word.
Galent BlueStone
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Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:03:15 EST
Excuse my mistake Cletus. And please, it's Galent. I will still, hold my word.
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From: maxim128@aol.com (Maxim128)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:28:26 EST
To all it concerns,
Firstly, I would like to know why you have all decided to go loyal to the crown before you hear the other side of the story. So, I will explain it as best I can.
>He says that you claim that You asked me why I was silent during his
>Challenge, and that I would not answer you.
You have mixed these two thoughts up. I did ask you why you were silent during his challenge. Than, I asked you why you wouldn't answer other questions, not that specific one. Do not deny that you would not answer some of my questions.
>Magnus, That brings us to my intercession stance. This clear stance was sent
>to you, along with the other twelve Barons. Again, let me repeat: If a
>Loyal Baron asks for Intercession, I will grant it unless there is a very
>good reason not to. It is Black and White. No Interpretation Necessary.
>You should have considered this at the time you recieved these words, weeks
>ago, and set your alignment at that time. I have been very clear from the
>start with you as to my stance on intercession.
I did consider this at the time I set my alignment, and I chose Nuetral. Why? Because as you said, I considered you a friend, yet I opposed the intercession. Am I not allowed to go Nuetral? I was unsure of going Renegade at that time, just as you said that you were unsure with many things, it being your first time as Overlord.
>I will not allow the Integrity of This Crown to be tarnished with threats and
>manipulation.
Threats? I never offered a threat, but rather a promise, not unlike the ones you promise to your loyal barons. I stated that if you interceeded upon Huma, or any for that matter, I would go Renegade. I know you said you would, but I was not going to act upon it until I had seen it.
>I notice that in virtually every letter and bit on the corkboard, yourself
>and Baron Dragonbane say something to the effect of "I consider Eros a
>friend, but..... "....
Do not worry, you will never hear that line again.
~Magnus~
Baron of the 13th
Guardian of Polaris
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:28:26 EST
To all it concerns,
Firstly, I would like to know why you have all decided to go loyal to the crown before you hear the other side of the story. So, I will explain it as best I can.
>He says that you claim that You asked me why I was silent during his
>Challenge, and that I would not answer you.
You have mixed these two thoughts up. I did ask you why you were silent during his challenge. Than, I asked you why you wouldn't answer other questions, not that specific one. Do not deny that you would not answer some of my questions.
>Magnus, That brings us to my intercession stance. This clear stance was sent
>to you, along with the other twelve Barons. Again, let me repeat: If a
>Loyal Baron asks for Intercession, I will grant it unless there is a very
>good reason not to. It is Black and White. No Interpretation Necessary.
>You should have considered this at the time you recieved these words, weeks
>ago, and set your alignment at that time. I have been very clear from the
>start with you as to my stance on intercession.
I did consider this at the time I set my alignment, and I chose Nuetral. Why? Because as you said, I considered you a friend, yet I opposed the intercession. Am I not allowed to go Nuetral? I was unsure of going Renegade at that time, just as you said that you were unsure with many things, it being your first time as Overlord.
>I will not allow the Integrity of This Crown to be tarnished with threats and
>manipulation.
Threats? I never offered a threat, but rather a promise, not unlike the ones you promise to your loyal barons. I stated that if you interceeded upon Huma, or any for that matter, I would go Renegade. I know you said you would, but I was not going to act upon it until I had seen it.
>I notice that in virtually every letter and bit on the corkboard, yourself
>and Baron Dragonbane say something to the effect of "I consider Eros a
>friend, but..... "....
Do not worry, you will never hear that line again.
~Magnus~
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From: jakemheart@aol.com (JakeMHeart)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:37:23 EST
Simple enough Magnus,
How can you kill a friendship off of intercession? When you make overlord, it is YOUR right to intercede. You earned it. Don't worry, don't listen to my views, i'm unimportant. But, making that rank, awards you that right, which is a good thing about being overlord other than the name. Using the ToW and intercession, is their choice. How can you stop a friendship when someone uses a choice that doesn't really effect you?
Galent BlueStone
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~`` Jake's spirit controller ``~
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:37:23 EST
Simple enough Magnus,
How can you kill a friendship off of intercession? When you make overlord, it is YOUR right to intercede. You earned it. Don't worry, don't listen to my views, i'm unimportant. But, making that rank, awards you that right, which is a good thing about being overlord other than the name. Using the ToW and intercession, is their choice. How can you stop a friendship when someone uses a choice that doesn't really effect you?
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From: maxim128@aol.com (Maxim128)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:44:57 EST
Galent,
I did not stop the friendship, he did by this statement, "My friends know me. They know who I am. What I stand for. They trust in my conceptions of Honor and Integrity. My friends are Loyal."
Now, I am not a loyal, so, this to me says that he does not consider me a friend.
~Magnus~
Baron of the 13th
Guardian of Polaris
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:44:57 EST
Galent,
I did not stop the friendship, he did by this statement, "My friends know me. They know who I am. What I stand for. They trust in my conceptions of Honor and Integrity. My friends are Loyal."
Now, I am not a loyal, so, this to me says that he does not consider me a friend.
~Magnus~
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From: jakemheart@aol.com (JakeMHeart)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:53:39 EST
Magnus,
I understand your view point, but that can be taken a seperate way:
He didn't mean it like you had to be faithful to him, but just a friend. Just someone loyal enough to talk about politics and laugh. - And anything else.
I could be wrong... I think you're right, but i'm guessing.
Galent BlueStone
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Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:53:39 EST
Magnus,
I understand your view point, but that can be taken a seperate way:
He didn't mean it like you had to be faithful to him, but just a friend. Just someone loyal enough to talk about politics and laugh. - And anything else.
I could be wrong... I think you're right, but i'm guessing.
Galent BlueStone
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From: morganfay@aol.com (MorganFay)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 16:31:06 EST
Cletus, what can you do about it?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 16:31:06 EST
Cletus, what can you do about it?
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:38:30 EST
::tacks a note::
To blah, blah, blah, and blah,
You blah yakkety shmackity Honor and blah yodel jimbalaya jammy jams hate and insult my boo hoo whine mutter grumble gripe yammer blah blah and another thing. You and yopeyyokes jimmy joe billbobs can't do this because honor hate skill old and new young blahing away till you're blue in the face!!
On an end note,
Mumble, mutter, grumble, gripe, whine, wheeze, yell, scream, hollar, bellow, strain, try, friendship, honor, skill, rules, retire, expand, join, kill, loser, pinply faced buffoon, scotch drinking, hypocrite, honorless, oathbreaker, deceitful, crossdressing, pathetic wretch of a Warlord, Baron, Overlord, Grand Master, Master at Arms, Swords person, commoner, unknowledgeable, silly, DISRESPECTFUL(gasp), uninnocent gimps who think they make a
difference but only make the system worse jabbering idiots.
Thank you for listening,
Respectfully submitted,
G'nort Espelande G'neesmacher Dragoon Talanador
Head of House Dragoon Talanador
Thrice Baron of the DoS
"When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master"
N
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:38:30 EST
::tacks a note::
To blah, blah, blah, and blah,
You blah yakkety shmackity Honor and blah yodel jimbalaya jammy jams hate and insult my boo hoo whine mutter grumble gripe yammer blah blah and another thing. You and yopeyyokes jimmy joe billbobs can't do this because honor hate skill old and new young blahing away till you're blue in the face!!
On an end note,
Mumble, mutter, grumble, gripe, whine, wheeze, yell, scream, hollar, bellow, strain, try, friendship, honor, skill, rules, retire, expand, join, kill, loser, pinply faced buffoon, scotch drinking, hypocrite, honorless, oathbreaker, deceitful, crossdressing, pathetic wretch of a Warlord, Baron, Overlord, Grand Master, Master at Arms, Swords person, commoner, unknowledgeable, silly, DISRESPECTFUL(gasp), uninnocent gimps who think they make a
difference but only make the system worse jabbering idiots.
Thank you for listening,
Respectfully submitted,
G'nort Espelande G'neesmacher Dragoon Talanador
Head of House Dragoon Talanador
Thrice Baron of the DoS
"When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master"
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From: carnage669@aol.com (Carnage669)
Date: 16 Feb 1999 20:35:02 EST
Morgan,
Nothing since you don't have a ring anymore, and if you did, I'd come and take it from you again.
Cletus
Humble Warlord of DoS
Date: 16 Feb 1999 20:35:02 EST
Morgan,
Nothing since you don't have a ring anymore, and if you did, I'd come and take it from you again.
Cletus
Humble Warlord of DoS