Date: 9/19/97 8:40 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: RLupton
G'nort Espelande G'neesmacher Dragoon Talanador, Baron of the Fifth Ring, Owner of the Golden Ivy Tavern, and husband of Princess Ariana Dragoon Talandor; Goldendust Evermeadow, Fifth Standings Keeper of the Duel of Swords, Warden of Loreil, husband to Dansantes Evermeadow; Helix Gilyan Deverrey Girvin, Coordinator of the Duel of Swords, Co-Founder of the GateWay Place, wife to Brian Girvin; Dalamar Ar'Daumon, Overlord of the Duel of Swords, Lord of the Dale, Guardian of the Oldest House, Master of the
House of Stone; AJ Bird, Baron of the Duel of Swords, husband of Lady Sher, son of King Mertin Bird; Heath Duncan Connor MacCormack, Baron of the Duel of Swords, husband of Lady Raietha Hawthorne Hawkins MacCormack, father of Britain Heath MacCormack; Ellisa Morgan, Baroness of the Duel of Swords, Captain of the Dragon; Kaprielle d'Argent, Baroness of the Duel of Swords; Phillip Kardinal, Baron of the Duel of Swords; Luthien Tinuviel, Baroness of the Duel of Swords, Lady Tynsdale, Nightingale-Daughter
of Twilight, wife to Iain Ryan MacKenzie; Adeena Maeax, Baroness of the Duel of Swords, the Red Zealot; Daegarth Mithmellon, Baron of the Duel of Swords, head of House Phoenix; Honored duelists of the Duel of Swords and patrons of RhyDin:
Before my previous challenge to G'nort Espelande G'neesmacher Dragoon Talandor, I made an oath that stated that if G'nort were to ever obtain title in the Duel of Swords again I would do all in my power to remove him from that title. G'nort Espelande G'neesmacher Dragoon Talandor has obtained the fifth Baronial Ring of the Duel of Swords. I shall, of course, stand by my oath.
I do declare my challenge to G'nort Espelande G'neesmacher Dragoon Talandor for the fifth Baronial ring of the Duel of Swords. I shall leave the scheduling of the duel up to the Baron as tradition allows.
The stating of colors, second, lady of honor, and weapon shall be announced at the time that the included peer wins are confirmed.
Skill and honor,
~Lupton
Warlord of the Duel of Swords
Peerwins:
Huma DragonBane. Commenced on 8-23. Refereed by Xenograg kathu-Darelir.
Arlingond. Commenced on 8-24. Refereed by Ellisa Morgan.
Adonai Uziel. Commenced on 8-31. Refereed by Ellisa Morgan.
Heath Duncan Connor McCormack. Commenced on 8-31. Refereed by Ellisa Morgan.
Rand al'Tan. Commenced on 8-31. Refereed by Ellisa Morgan.
Dem Cyrax. Commenced on 9-5. Refereed by Alais 'd Nitesong Sidhe.
Topaz Eludes. Commenced on 9-6. Refereed by Luthien Tinuvel.
Mathias deWinter. Commenced on 9-6. Refereed by Ulysses Graham 'd Nitesong Sidhe.
Skyler Jackson Chamberland. Commenced on 9-11. Refereed by Cloreiviere H'Darwtch.
Nova Shadow. Commenced on 9-11. Refereed by Ellisa Morgan.
Tarl Cabot. Commenced on 9-13. Refereed by Xenograg kathu-Darelir.
Ulysses Graham 'd Nitesong Sidhe. 9-18. Refereed by Mathias deWinter.
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Date: 9/21/97 2:21 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Drakewyn
::Having expected this from the moment her friend G'nortie issued his challenge, she can only shake her head.::
I do not know what you have against my friend Gnort, Lupton... But I find such an oath to be childish in the extreme. If you wish to say "Your reasons for your oath are private", then I guess the DoS community will just have to come up with their own guesses as to why you are doing this. The only other thing I can say is this... Should you win, prize that ring , for I shall do all that is in my power to see you do not hold it long.
The Grand Duchess, Lady Drakewyn Anastasia Alabster the Tenth.
From: Drakewyn
::Having expected this from the moment her friend G'nortie issued his challenge, she can only shake her head.::
I do not know what you have against my friend Gnort, Lupton... But I find such an oath to be childish in the extreme. If you wish to say "Your reasons for your oath are private", then I guess the DoS community will just have to come up with their own guesses as to why you are doing this. The only other thing I can say is this... Should you win, prize that ring , for I shall do all that is in my power to see you do not hold it long.
The Grand Duchess, Lady Drakewyn Anastasia Alabster the Tenth.
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Date: 9/21/97 3:44 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: RixFavre
Lady Drakewyn,
Please do not think that this post is for only starting an argument, or an attack, but there is something I must point out.
>>But I find such an oath to be childish in the extreme<<
>>Should you win, prize that ring , for I shall do all that is in my power to see you do not hold it long.<<
What exactly is the difference between Lupton's reason for challenge and what you stated above? His oath is not dissimilar to the second quotation above.
It appears that you are on two different levels, Lady Drakewyn. Calling an oath to challenge someone if they ever won a ring childish, yet stating you would do the exact same thing.
~Signed, a Warlord of the Duel of Swords
From: RixFavre
Lady Drakewyn,
Please do not think that this post is for only starting an argument, or an attack, but there is something I must point out.
>>But I find such an oath to be childish in the extreme<<
>>Should you win, prize that ring , for I shall do all that is in my power to see you do not hold it long.<<
What exactly is the difference between Lupton's reason for challenge and what you stated above? His oath is not dissimilar to the second quotation above.
It appears that you are on two different levels, Lady Drakewyn. Calling an oath to challenge someone if they ever won a ring childish, yet stating you would do the exact same thing.
~Signed, a Warlord of the Duel of Swords
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Date: 9/22/97 2:26 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: ChandraGld
::The note written on a sheet of gold, the letters seemingly beaten silver, it appears upon the boards of it's own accord.::
I will so enjoy immortalizing this event upon my canvas... Great wishes of skill to both combatants, for only in a true test of arms can the power of life be shown.
The Grand Ladyship, Chandra Goldraven nee Trenton.
From: ChandraGld
::The note written on a sheet of gold, the letters seemingly beaten silver, it appears upon the boards of it's own accord.::
I will so enjoy immortalizing this event upon my canvas... Great wishes of skill to both combatants, for only in a true test of arms can the power of life be shown.
The Grand Ladyship, Chandra Goldraven nee Trenton.
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Date: 9/22/97 5:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: NovaShayde
I'll just respond to this one with opinion and a tiny bit of fact:
<<It appears that you are on two different levels, Lady Drakewyn. Calling an oath to challenge someone if they ever won a ring childish, yet stating you would do the exact same thing.>>
I believe Drakewyn is employing the same method I shall use if someone is to step ahead and challenge the Overlord during the rest period I've spoken of: Do unto others.
I'm sure Lupton would expect no less, and perhaps even be insulted if everyone just ignored him should he take G'nort's ring.
You cannot expect friends of G'nort to stand idly by while Lupton hounds him back to the Warlord rankings. Friendships are indeed made of stronger stuff (there's the fact)... and I believe Lupton's is an oath that needs to be rethought, as I have told him many times before.
I have heard his side on numerous occasions, so there is no need to state and restate those facts for my benefit. I still believe he should consider a new oath against someone less deserving of such a prize if he feels this need to make oaths against Warlords/one day Barons.
That, of course, is my opinion.
Nova Grey Shadow
From: NovaShayde
I'll just respond to this one with opinion and a tiny bit of fact:
<<It appears that you are on two different levels, Lady Drakewyn. Calling an oath to challenge someone if they ever won a ring childish, yet stating you would do the exact same thing.>>
I believe Drakewyn is employing the same method I shall use if someone is to step ahead and challenge the Overlord during the rest period I've spoken of: Do unto others.
I'm sure Lupton would expect no less, and perhaps even be insulted if everyone just ignored him should he take G'nort's ring.
You cannot expect friends of G'nort to stand idly by while Lupton hounds him back to the Warlord rankings. Friendships are indeed made of stronger stuff (there's the fact)... and I believe Lupton's is an oath that needs to be rethought, as I have told him many times before.
I have heard his side on numerous occasions, so there is no need to state and restate those facts for my benefit. I still believe he should consider a new oath against someone less deserving of such a prize if he feels this need to make oaths against Warlords/one day Barons.
That, of course, is my opinion.
Nova Grey Shadow
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Date: 9/22/97 2:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: RLupton
Oaths should not be broken. For the Lady Drakewyn, the oath was created during an arguement between myself and G'nort before my original challenge. Details are unnecessarry, but the words issued by him dealt with my skill and worthiness to be a Baron. Whether or not I currently agree with the oath I created is of no matter. I do not break oaths. I never will. If ye consider keeping one's word childish, Lady Drakewyn, ye have problems unfathomable by the sane mind.
~Lupton
From: RLupton
Oaths should not be broken. For the Lady Drakewyn, the oath was created during an arguement between myself and G'nort before my original challenge. Details are unnecessarry, but the words issued by him dealt with my skill and worthiness to be a Baron. Whether or not I currently agree with the oath I created is of no matter. I do not break oaths. I never will. If ye consider keeping one's word childish, Lady Drakewyn, ye have problems unfathomable by the sane mind.
~Lupton
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Date: 9/22/97 4:34 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Alyxz
::looks at the letter done in gold and sighs:: How long do they expect me to resist this sort of thing? I do have a buisiness to keep afloat, not to mention child support for two kids...
::the missive before him is gold with silver lettering. He carefully and painstakingly copies it, word for word onto parchment, then sticks the new copy onto the board. The gold one is slid into a pouch::
From: Alyxz
::looks at the letter done in gold and sighs:: How long do they expect me to resist this sort of thing? I do have a buisiness to keep afloat, not to mention child support for two kids...
::the missive before him is gold with silver lettering. He carefully and painstakingly copies it, word for word onto parchment, then sticks the new copy onto the board. The gold one is slid into a pouch::
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Date: 9/22/97 6:34 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Drakewynx
Lord Lupton and un-identified WarLord.
My words were that the oath itself was childish in the extreme, not the keeping of such an oath. There have been many who took oaths and then, with time and wisdom, recinded them. As Nova said, my own promise is based upon my friendship with Gnort, not out of any personal dislike of Lord Lupton. Any who would bring harm to my friends or my family... and believe me, such an oath is nothing but malice... will make themself my enemy.
Before someone brings up the old issues of House and politics, I state now this has nothing to do with any of those. This is about friendship.
Lady Drakewyn.
From: Drakewynx
Lord Lupton and un-identified WarLord.
My words were that the oath itself was childish in the extreme, not the keeping of such an oath. There have been many who took oaths and then, with time and wisdom, recinded them. As Nova said, my own promise is based upon my friendship with Gnort, not out of any personal dislike of Lord Lupton. Any who would bring harm to my friends or my family... and believe me, such an oath is nothing but malice... will make themself my enemy.
Before someone brings up the old issues of House and politics, I state now this has nothing to do with any of those. This is about friendship.
Lady Drakewyn.
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Date: 9/23/97 11:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: RLupton
Drakewyn,
If I were to recind my oath, what value would my future oaths, if I ever make another, hold? Recinding oaths and breaking one's word, no matter the situation, is simply something I see intolerable. I do hope that Perrinis has a firm grip on the true value of a man's word so that your children may grow with this ideal firmly implanted.
~Lupton
From: RLupton
Drakewyn,
If I were to recind my oath, what value would my future oaths, if I ever make another, hold? Recinding oaths and breaking one's word, no matter the situation, is simply something I see intolerable. I do hope that Perrinis has a firm grip on the true value of a man's word so that your children may grow with this ideal firmly implanted.
~Lupton
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Date: 10/1/97 5:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: BuffyWntrs
::Slaps a wrapper to the board::
I know, I know.. the challenge is made, and will be done, I suppose, no matter what. I also know the last reply, penned by the stubborn challenger, was posted almost 10 days ago. I'm too lazy to do the math. Lupton, your most recent question was, I believe, 'what value would my future oaths hold?'. Here's my answer: If you actually thought about this oath, with intelligence, foresight, wisdom, and grace, instead of being stubborn and unbending,
your oath would mean a heckuva lot more.. showing you to be a man of intelligent compromise, of political skill, and other such things that make a leader great. As it stands, with your own words stating that you perhaps do not agree with the terms of the original oath, it only portrays you as a narrow-minded, single-visioned Warlord. I for one, would simply be frightened (perhaps too strong a word) of what is going to come out of your mouth that
you feel you 'must' do.
A man without compromise? Without the ability to admit when he makes a mistake, or has the wisdom to know when character has increased or changed enough to warrant the invalidation of an oath? Not the kind of Baron I would like to see in the Duel of Swords.
But hey, I'm just a gum-chewin' girl from California.. What do I know 'bout honor and jazz?
~Buffy
Happy participant in the DoS.
From: BuffyWntrs
::Slaps a wrapper to the board::
I know, I know.. the challenge is made, and will be done, I suppose, no matter what. I also know the last reply, penned by the stubborn challenger, was posted almost 10 days ago. I'm too lazy to do the math. Lupton, your most recent question was, I believe, 'what value would my future oaths hold?'. Here's my answer: If you actually thought about this oath, with intelligence, foresight, wisdom, and grace, instead of being stubborn and unbending,
your oath would mean a heckuva lot more.. showing you to be a man of intelligent compromise, of political skill, and other such things that make a leader great. As it stands, with your own words stating that you perhaps do not agree with the terms of the original oath, it only portrays you as a narrow-minded, single-visioned Warlord. I for one, would simply be frightened (perhaps too strong a word) of what is going to come out of your mouth that
you feel you 'must' do.
A man without compromise? Without the ability to admit when he makes a mistake, or has the wisdom to know when character has increased or changed enough to warrant the invalidation of an oath? Not the kind of Baron I would like to see in the Duel of Swords.
But hey, I'm just a gum-chewin' girl from California.. What do I know 'bout honor and jazz?
~Buffy
Happy participant in the DoS.