From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 06 Aug 1999 13:37:55 EDT
>>Being a baron is a very political position<<
Well that is the problem, isn't it Var? This is a sport. The challenges and titles should be the purest expressions of sport and competition, not political plums. The political bickering that detracts from the honesty and integrity of the sport gets in the way of the enjoyment of both the competitors and the spectators. Those of us who realize that this is a sport and that the titleholders are champions in said sport seem to be a lot happier than
those who see the end of the world every time a challenge doesn't go their way for political reasons.
Likewise, a lot of people who hold titles would be a lot happier if they recognized the fact that they *will* be challenged and that eventually they *will* lose. Being challenged is the purpose of acquiring title, and since everyone eventually loses there should be no reason to desperately stave off defeat by underhanded or purely political means.
I have said it in the past, I will say it again. Get the politics out of the sport. The sooner the better.
Oh, and if people learned that not everyone who disagreed with them politically was 'dishonorable' or evil, that would be a good thing too.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 06 Aug 1999 16:46:06 EDT
"Well that is the problem, isn't it Var?"
I don't see a problem with it. In fact, I am intrigued with the politics behind being a baron. Why someone challenged to be a baron, why they were later challenged by someone else, why they have chosen to do what they have on behalf of the community, etc. To me, it's all interesting to see what political webs we weave.
The politics are more or less unavoidable. Even if you are non-political, there are others in the community who are looking for leaders. In one way or another, the barons and overlord will be found caught in politics. When it doesn't happen, it's one of those freaks of nature. Of course, this is in response to Gerald's statement (nice win last night, by the way).
Of course, don't get me wrong. If someone has honestly challenged for sport or competition, then that's up to them. However, if someone has challenged for political reasons, then I feel it is the community's right to know what kind of leader they'll have in the case they win. Hiding the truth before the community detracts from the honesty and integrity of the sport.
I've issued 7 challenges in my career. First to Daegarth, because I never dueled him before, I was an ignorant rookie, and I didn't know better. Because I didn't know the proper rules of engagement, the challenge didn't even get to go beyond acceptance.
I've challenged Adonai because we shared personal dislikes for one another. Those who read the boards a year and a half ago know what I'm talking about. I challenged Evan because of his switching alignments and challenging Dal whom, at the time, I considered to be a friend. My next four challenges to Leto, Agrenish, Drake, and Morn were all for similar reasons; They have beaten me before, and after Leto, I wanted to hold the tenth ring again.
From my resume, I can assure you that I have been involved in challenges for numerous reasons. Even when I challenged Leto, after he was one who beat me in the Warlord's tourney, I was ridiculed by someone for not challenging Adonai again.
Trying to avoid politics when you're challenging to be a leader will only lead to disappointment. Like I said before, I like the politics in the arena. I'd rather know who's around me, instead of some faceless entities who conceal their thoughts.
Thank you for staying awake long enough to reach this point.
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Date: 06 Aug 1999 16:46:06 EDT
"Well that is the problem, isn't it Var?"
I don't see a problem with it. In fact, I am intrigued with the politics behind being a baron. Why someone challenged to be a baron, why they were later challenged by someone else, why they have chosen to do what they have on behalf of the community, etc. To me, it's all interesting to see what political webs we weave.
The politics are more or less unavoidable. Even if you are non-political, there are others in the community who are looking for leaders. In one way or another, the barons and overlord will be found caught in politics. When it doesn't happen, it's one of those freaks of nature. Of course, this is in response to Gerald's statement (nice win last night, by the way).
Of course, don't get me wrong. If someone has honestly challenged for sport or competition, then that's up to them. However, if someone has challenged for political reasons, then I feel it is the community's right to know what kind of leader they'll have in the case they win. Hiding the truth before the community detracts from the honesty and integrity of the sport.
I've issued 7 challenges in my career. First to Daegarth, because I never dueled him before, I was an ignorant rookie, and I didn't know better. Because I didn't know the proper rules of engagement, the challenge didn't even get to go beyond acceptance.
I've challenged Adonai because we shared personal dislikes for one another. Those who read the boards a year and a half ago know what I'm talking about. I challenged Evan because of his switching alignments and challenging Dal whom, at the time, I considered to be a friend. My next four challenges to Leto, Agrenish, Drake, and Morn were all for similar reasons; They have beaten me before, and after Leto, I wanted to hold the tenth ring again.
From my resume, I can assure you that I have been involved in challenges for numerous reasons. Even when I challenged Leto, after he was one who beat me in the Warlord's tourney, I was ridiculed by someone for not challenging Adonai again.
Trying to avoid politics when you're challenging to be a leader will only lead to disappointment. Like I said before, I like the politics in the arena. I'd rather know who's around me, instead of some faceless entities who conceal their thoughts.
Thank you for staying awake long enough to reach this point.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 06 Aug 1999 17:15:22 EDT
>>Trying to avoid politics when you're challenging to be a leader will only lead to disappointment.<<
This would be true if holding title really meant being a leader. However, I would have to say that none of the current titleholders are leaders. The real leaders in the community don't hold title, and some of them shouldn't lead anything, anywhere. Zen may become a leader, if he holds the crown long enough. He is certainly qualified to be one. None of the Barons are, and few have the potential to be.
There are people in the community who are leaders. One or two are even good leaders. For the most part, however, the politics of the Duel of Swords are a rather dirty little game of spite, personal grudges, and popularity contests.
Read 'The Prince', Var. It does a very good job of describing politics as it is. The worst part is, here in the DoS, the politics serves no purpose. The titles really don't have any meaning except as regarding to the sport. They are prizes, with no power and responsibilities that would be better given to the sport's real leader, the Supervisor.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
Date: 06 Aug 1999 17:15:22 EDT
>>Trying to avoid politics when you're challenging to be a leader will only lead to disappointment.<<
This would be true if holding title really meant being a leader. However, I would have to say that none of the current titleholders are leaders. The real leaders in the community don't hold title, and some of them shouldn't lead anything, anywhere. Zen may become a leader, if he holds the crown long enough. He is certainly qualified to be one. None of the Barons are, and few have the potential to be.
There are people in the community who are leaders. One or two are even good leaders. For the most part, however, the politics of the Duel of Swords are a rather dirty little game of spite, personal grudges, and popularity contests.
Read 'The Prince', Var. It does a very good job of describing politics as it is. The worst part is, here in the DoS, the politics serves no purpose. The titles really don't have any meaning except as regarding to the sport. They are prizes, with no power and responsibilities that would be better given to the sport's real leader, the Supervisor.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 06 Aug 1999 19:24:48 EDT
Madame Elgarette
Ast ta spewing rudeness, thou art a past mistress at such. Ast to discussin' matters face to face, tis seemin' thee spew advice yet dinna hae the wit ta follow it. Nae a surprise, Madame. Thou art ast e'er following thine follies ta their laughable extremes. Thou wouldst support the devil and all the demons 'o the abyss ast thou hast in past with nae the wit ta look beyond thine own wizened nose. Tis seeming from the day thou didst return from
death's embrace following thine suicide, thou left anna wit thou mayest hae hae in the soil wherein thou grave wast made. A pity thine Goddess hast nae anna more wit than thee thineself possess, else she wouldst hae imbued thee with a modicum of intelligence when she didst return thine spirit unto thine body.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 06 Aug 1999 19:24:48 EDT
Madame Elgarette
Ast ta spewing rudeness, thou art a past mistress at such. Ast to discussin' matters face to face, tis seemin' thee spew advice yet dinna hae the wit ta follow it. Nae a surprise, Madame. Thou art ast e'er following thine follies ta their laughable extremes. Thou wouldst support the devil and all the demons 'o the abyss ast thou hast in past with nae the wit ta look beyond thine own wizened nose. Tis seeming from the day thou didst return from
death's embrace following thine suicide, thou left anna wit thou mayest hae hae in the soil wherein thou grave wast made. A pity thine Goddess hast nae anna more wit than thee thineself possess, else she wouldst hae imbued thee with a modicum of intelligence when she didst return thine spirit unto thine body.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 06 Aug 1999 20:12:57 EDT
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont,
The only personages what seem to decry politics aire those what hae nae anna understanding of them. Thou didst challenge the lady Morgan le Fay du Cornwall forein thou wast sorely piqued at her, saying she didst nae be a worthy person ta hold title. The lady didst disabuse thee of that quite deftly both upon this cork and by dint of steel. Wast that a dirty little game of politics, personal grudge and a popularity contest? If so, thee lost.
Perchance thou nae see just how shallow thine comments truly be. A pity.
Thine admonishment to peruse that ancient tome ist utterly laughable forein it hast little if anna bearing upon politics ast the indeed be. Thou mayest insist that the politics of the duels be a rather dirty little game of spite, personal grudges and popularity contests, yet, tis thou thineself seek to dip thine fingers in the stew more oft than nae, whilst declaiming agin it. Thou hast seemingly joined the ranks of those what would hae that 'might
makes right', failing to see that the folly of that line of thought.
Ast to assigning powers and responsibilities unto the what thee claim be the 'real leader' of the sport, the Supervisor, that comment speaks most loudly of thine dearth of understanding of the sport. The duels nigh succumbed to complete disarray under the less than adept handling of the sport during Madame Helix Girvin's tenure. Master Evermeadow hast yet to give final rulings in at least two matters placed at his attention.
T'was a time, your grace when those what didst hold title were well respected e'en afore they didst garner such in these ancient halls and were known far and wide. Thou ast well ast others belittle the titles each time thee insist they hold nae meaning except with regard to the sport. Tis indeed true, sadly, that manna what do hold title see it ast little more than a way to hae their names writ upon the history of the rings when once those what
didst hold title didst hae their deeds known far and wide beyond the stone walls of the basement and the tomes in the Hall of History.
Thee blithely declaim who ist and ist nae of leadership quality among the current titled ranks. Yet how well I do recall thine shouts and cries unto the rabble to unseat the Lord Dalamar ArD'aumon, he that wast the last true leader of the titled ranks. Thou wouldst nae know a true leader where such to leap up and bite thee in the arse. Thou wouldst e'en less recognize the potential to lead forein tis rare thee wander afield to seek out those what
may indeed hae that spark within.
Whilst thee stick thine nose into ancient terran tomes, your grace, thou might also read those e'en more ancient, Plato, Aristotle, and Demothenes if thee wish to understand politics. Yet know, shouldst thou truly wish to understand the politics of the duels, thou shalt nae find it annawhere but in the hearts, minds, souls and spirits of those that hae gone afore and also in those who now do seek to quest for title and for what reason within
themselves they do quest. There and only there shall thou truly find the heart and soul of the sport, and nae elsewhere.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 06 Aug 1999 20:12:57 EDT
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont,
The only personages what seem to decry politics aire those what hae nae anna understanding of them. Thou didst challenge the lady Morgan le Fay du Cornwall forein thou wast sorely piqued at her, saying she didst nae be a worthy person ta hold title. The lady didst disabuse thee of that quite deftly both upon this cork and by dint of steel. Wast that a dirty little game of politics, personal grudge and a popularity contest? If so, thee lost.
Perchance thou nae see just how shallow thine comments truly be. A pity.
Thine admonishment to peruse that ancient tome ist utterly laughable forein it hast little if anna bearing upon politics ast the indeed be. Thou mayest insist that the politics of the duels be a rather dirty little game of spite, personal grudges and popularity contests, yet, tis thou thineself seek to dip thine fingers in the stew more oft than nae, whilst declaiming agin it. Thou hast seemingly joined the ranks of those what would hae that 'might
makes right', failing to see that the folly of that line of thought.
Ast to assigning powers and responsibilities unto the what thee claim be the 'real leader' of the sport, the Supervisor, that comment speaks most loudly of thine dearth of understanding of the sport. The duels nigh succumbed to complete disarray under the less than adept handling of the sport during Madame Helix Girvin's tenure. Master Evermeadow hast yet to give final rulings in at least two matters placed at his attention.
T'was a time, your grace when those what didst hold title were well respected e'en afore they didst garner such in these ancient halls and were known far and wide. Thou ast well ast others belittle the titles each time thee insist they hold nae meaning except with regard to the sport. Tis indeed true, sadly, that manna what do hold title see it ast little more than a way to hae their names writ upon the history of the rings when once those what
didst hold title didst hae their deeds known far and wide beyond the stone walls of the basement and the tomes in the Hall of History.
Thee blithely declaim who ist and ist nae of leadership quality among the current titled ranks. Yet how well I do recall thine shouts and cries unto the rabble to unseat the Lord Dalamar ArD'aumon, he that wast the last true leader of the titled ranks. Thou wouldst nae know a true leader where such to leap up and bite thee in the arse. Thou wouldst e'en less recognize the potential to lead forein tis rare thee wander afield to seek out those what
may indeed hae that spark within.
Whilst thee stick thine nose into ancient terran tomes, your grace, thou might also read those e'en more ancient, Plato, Aristotle, and Demothenes if thee wish to understand politics. Yet know, shouldst thou truly wish to understand the politics of the duels, thou shalt nae find it annawhere but in the hearts, minds, souls and spirits of those that hae gone afore and also in those who now do seek to quest for title and for what reason within
themselves they do quest. There and only there shall thou truly find the heart and soul of the sport, and nae elsewhere.
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 06 Aug 1999 20:17:01 EDT
::tacks up a rather short note::
And on the same note, there are those who know the art of political maneuvering and back biting too well.
~Sidartha
Date: 06 Aug 1999 20:17:01 EDT
::tacks up a rather short note::
And on the same note, there are those who know the art of political maneuvering and back biting too well.
~Sidartha
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 06 Aug 1999 20:33:26 EDT
>>There and only there shall thou truly find the heart and soul of the sport, and nae elsewhere.<<
And I'm sure politics will not be at the top of many of their lists. Politics is not what makes this sport go 'round, and only manages to cause strife and unrest amongst us, where there should be a comradery and a sense of cheerful competition, none of this sneaking around to find whatever tidbit of information to publicly scorn each other, or any other politically motivated move.
The politics and backbiting are scattered everywhere in your posting to Percy. Poor politics it is, howe'er. Closer to the ravings of a madwoman who can spew forth nothing but bile at everyone who holds a differing opinion than you.
I challenge you to mention *one* person you have strongly disagreed with on this board whom you have not thrown out names and insults like a child throwing a tantrum. Name one person, Nenshen. I do believe, and I am sure I am not the only one, that you cannot.
With disgust,
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 06 Aug 1999 20:33:26 EDT
>>There and only there shall thou truly find the heart and soul of the sport, and nae elsewhere.<<
And I'm sure politics will not be at the top of many of their lists. Politics is not what makes this sport go 'round, and only manages to cause strife and unrest amongst us, where there should be a comradery and a sense of cheerful competition, none of this sneaking around to find whatever tidbit of information to publicly scorn each other, or any other politically motivated move.
The politics and backbiting are scattered everywhere in your posting to Percy. Poor politics it is, howe'er. Closer to the ravings of a madwoman who can spew forth nothing but bile at everyone who holds a differing opinion than you.
I challenge you to mention *one* person you have strongly disagreed with on this board whom you have not thrown out names and insults like a child throwing a tantrum. Name one person, Nenshen. I do believe, and I am sure I am not the only one, that you cannot.
With disgust,
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 03:05:16 EDT
Sidie Poo,
Thou hast declared thineself 'pon more than one occasion ast being a madwoman. How utterly amusing thee who hae nae the barest inkling of events surrounding Percy's challenge unta the Lady Morgana wouldst deign to comment. Most assuredly tis thine penchant ta babble on about matters of which thou hast little knowledge, politics being one of them.
Madame, thine childish tantrums might amuse a child, though methinks perhaps thou hast reached thine dotage. Cheerful competion, Madame? How utterly droll a comment coming from the likes of thee. Thine stridency ist but one of thine follies, Madame. Do run along and find some pasttime suited ta thine abilities. Perhaps thee might see if the docks aire in need of a fishwife. Thee hae so little understanding of politics, lass, I wouldst nae
suggest thee indulge thineself in such.
Madame, thine challenge ist nae worth mine time. I need nae prove a thing to the likes of thee. Were I to indulge such vanity, Madame, t'would simply be child's play to accomplish. Perhaps thee might peruse the cork and discover the answer for thineself, that ist permitted that thee hae the wit ta understand the common tongue ast tis writ.
Amusedly,
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 07 Aug 1999 03:05:16 EDT
Sidie Poo,
Thou hast declared thineself 'pon more than one occasion ast being a madwoman. How utterly amusing thee who hae nae the barest inkling of events surrounding Percy's challenge unta the Lady Morgana wouldst deign to comment. Most assuredly tis thine penchant ta babble on about matters of which thou hast little knowledge, politics being one of them.
Madame, thine childish tantrums might amuse a child, though methinks perhaps thou hast reached thine dotage. Cheerful competion, Madame? How utterly droll a comment coming from the likes of thee. Thine stridency ist but one of thine follies, Madame. Do run along and find some pasttime suited ta thine abilities. Perhaps thee might see if the docks aire in need of a fishwife. Thee hae so little understanding of politics, lass, I wouldst nae
suggest thee indulge thineself in such.
Madame, thine challenge ist nae worth mine time. I need nae prove a thing to the likes of thee. Were I to indulge such vanity, Madame, t'would simply be child's play to accomplish. Perhaps thee might peruse the cork and discover the answer for thineself, that ist permitted that thee hae the wit ta understand the common tongue ast tis writ.
Amusedly,
Jonalyn Starfare
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 03:05:16 EDT
Sidie Poo,
Thou hast declared thineself 'pon more than one occasion ast being a madwoman. How utterly amusing thee who hae nae the barest inkling of events surrounding Percy's challenge unta the Lady Morgana wouldst deign to comment. Most assuredly tis thine penchant ta babble on about matters of which thou hast little knowledge, politics being one of them.
Madame, thine childish tantrums might amuse a child, though methinks perhaps thou hast reached thine dotage. Cheerful competion, Madame? How utterly droll a comment coming from the likes of thee. Thine stridency ist but one of thine follies, Madame. Do run along and find some pasttime suited ta thine abilities. Perhaps thee might see if the docks aire in need of a fishwife. Thee hae so little understanding of politics, lass, I wouldst nae
suggest thee indulge thineself in such.
Madame, thine challenge ist nae worth mine time. I need nae prove a thing to the likes of thee. Were I to indulge such vanity, Madame, t'would simply be child's play to accomplish. Perhaps thee might peruse the cork and discover the answer for thineself, that ist permitted that thee hae the wit ta understand the common tongue ast tis writ.
Amusedly,
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 07 Aug 1999 03:05:16 EDT
Sidie Poo,
Thou hast declared thineself 'pon more than one occasion ast being a madwoman. How utterly amusing thee who hae nae the barest inkling of events surrounding Percy's challenge unta the Lady Morgana wouldst deign to comment. Most assuredly tis thine penchant ta babble on about matters of which thou hast little knowledge, politics being one of them.
Madame, thine childish tantrums might amuse a child, though methinks perhaps thou hast reached thine dotage. Cheerful competion, Madame? How utterly droll a comment coming from the likes of thee. Thine stridency ist but one of thine follies, Madame. Do run along and find some pasttime suited ta thine abilities. Perhaps thee might see if the docks aire in need of a fishwife. Thee hae so little understanding of politics, lass, I wouldst nae
suggest thee indulge thineself in such.
Madame, thine challenge ist nae worth mine time. I need nae prove a thing to the likes of thee. Were I to indulge such vanity, Madame, t'would simply be child's play to accomplish. Perhaps thee might peruse the cork and discover the answer for thineself, that ist permitted that thee hae the wit ta understand the common tongue ast tis writ.
Amusedly,
Jonalyn Starfare
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 04:56:57 EDT
Jonalyn~
First and foremost, I have never, *ever* claimed myself a madwoman. I am curious as to these occasions you speak of.
Secondly, I am not speaking of Percy's challenge to Morgan. Try not to steer the focus away from you.
Strident, you say? I do apologize for being a bit harsh towards scandal-mongers such as yourself.
I understand that you are unwilling to not be honest about your actions toward people who happen to disagree with you, but your past speaks for itself. Pray, indulge yourself in a bit of vanity, it would not be the first time your vanity has run rampant.
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 07 Aug 1999 04:56:57 EDT
Jonalyn~
First and foremost, I have never, *ever* claimed myself a madwoman. I am curious as to these occasions you speak of.
Secondly, I am not speaking of Percy's challenge to Morgan. Try not to steer the focus away from you.
Strident, you say? I do apologize for being a bit harsh towards scandal-mongers such as yourself.
I understand that you are unwilling to not be honest about your actions toward people who happen to disagree with you, but your past speaks for itself. Pray, indulge yourself in a bit of vanity, it would not be the first time your vanity has run rampant.
~Sidartha Elgarette
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 05:18:02 EDT
While Jonalyn's capable of speaking for herself, Sid, there have been a couple occassions where she's disagreed with me, and something I posted on the board, and she did not attack me for it.
However, if she did want to attack my character on this board, I would rather hear the truth instead of living in a "Speak no Evil" society which some people opt to be living in, apparently, including yourself. It's not meant to be an attack, just a simple observation.
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Date: 07 Aug 1999 05:18:02 EDT
While Jonalyn's capable of speaking for herself, Sid, there have been a couple occassions where she's disagreed with me, and something I posted on the board, and she did not attack me for it.
However, if she did want to attack my character on this board, I would rather hear the truth instead of living in a "Speak no Evil" society which some people opt to be living in, apparently, including yourself. It's not meant to be an attack, just a simple observation.
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From: rlupton@aol.com (RLupton)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 12:57:29 EDT
Politics themselves are not bad. At their focus, they need not run hand-in-hand with manipulation, cheating, and lying as is seeming to be implied.
Please find another catch-all term for DoS's problems. This one is being misused.
~ Lup
Date: 07 Aug 1999 12:57:29 EDT
Politics themselves are not bad. At their focus, they need not run hand-in-hand with manipulation, cheating, and lying as is seeming to be implied.
Please find another catch-all term for DoS's problems. This one is being misused.
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 15:19:08 EDT
Var~
While I thank you for pointing out my mistake, I cannot ignore the rest of your words. I, too, wish to see truth, but if you find truth in Jonalyn's words to both myself and Percy, I must find fault in your thinking.
What truth is there in her calling me a madwoman? What truth is there in the accusations she placed upon Percy?
Indeed, it is disheartening to think that Jonalyn's actions are considered the utmost propriety.
~Sidartha
Date: 07 Aug 1999 15:19:08 EDT
Var~
While I thank you for pointing out my mistake, I cannot ignore the rest of your words. I, too, wish to see truth, but if you find truth in Jonalyn's words to both myself and Percy, I must find fault in your thinking.
What truth is there in her calling me a madwoman? What truth is there in the accusations she placed upon Percy?
Indeed, it is disheartening to think that Jonalyn's actions are considered the utmost propriety.
~Sidartha
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 15:39:27 EDT
Sid,
It's not for me to say whether or not you're a madwoman, or if Percy is what Jona has said he is.
However, the truth I was referring to is when I say that someone says what they honestly feel. I'd rather hear the honest feelings instead of people nodding to me, telling me how right I am, if they indeed think I was wrong. If you feel my thinking's off, then I'd rather you say that than hear you say, "You're right, Var."
I didn't mean to cause confusion in that aspect.
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Date: 07 Aug 1999 15:39:27 EDT
Sid,
It's not for me to say whether or not you're a madwoman, or if Percy is what Jona has said he is.
However, the truth I was referring to is when I say that someone says what they honestly feel. I'd rather hear the honest feelings instead of people nodding to me, telling me how right I am, if they indeed think I was wrong. If you feel my thinking's off, then I'd rather you say that than hear you say, "You're right, Var."
I didn't mean to cause confusion in that aspect.
Var Medici-Giovanni
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From: lordgunthr@aol.com (LordGunthr)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:11:46 EDT
::Grinning, reading Var's statement, he scribbles something upon the board, surely Var can make it out as to who wrote it::
Var, I always did feel you were a bit on the... well slow side..
::he grins, and runs off chuckling to himself::
Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:11:46 EDT
::Grinning, reading Var's statement, he scribbles something upon the board, surely Var can make it out as to who wrote it::
Var, I always did feel you were a bit on the... well slow side..
::he grins, and runs off chuckling to himself::