From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:11:12 EST
I have a few words about the "discussions" going about.
To begin with, whether or not this is the "new and improved" days or the "new and improving" days shouldn't really affect what today is. If you see it as improving, then you're probably happy with today, if you see it as a cruddy time in the life of DoS, then you're probably not all shiney and smiley when you think about the arena. I, personally, enjoy it. I enjoy reading the politics, I enjoy seeing the true colors of people when they
write, and most of all, I enjoy stepping into the ring and dueling (though I don't like losing, for obvious reasons).
Do I like some of the people here? Of course I do. Do I dislike some of the people here? Of course I do. I admit to even getting bitter when I think of what would happen next time I see that person. In either case, it doesn't hold any grand effect over whether not the days have "improved." I'd be in for a rude awakening if I truly thought my perception on people would have some effect on what the times are truly like in the life of DoS.
It's all a matter of personal perspective. Jona could say 10,000 things why she likes the past more than the present, and Zaf could say 10,000 things back why he likes the present more than the past. As interesting as I would find the discussion, given the fact I've had a few "back and forth" debates/arguments with people on the boards myself, chances are it still won't have any effect on someone else's view of today compared to yesterday.
I had some more to say, but my rant made me forget what it was. Since I don't expect this discussion to die suddenly, I'll be sure to add it in when I think of it.
Var Medici-Giovanni
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:15:56 EST
"Baron Turidan,
Perhaps, Baron Turidan, wouldst care to name these 'fine people' thee hae met? I should be verra interested to know who thou dost consider ast fine."
He did that already, if you had taken the time to read his post fully. As I recall, he mentioned the Warbird as an example of the fine people he has had the luck to meet. I'd certainly call Ajay a fine personage indeed.
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:15:56 EST
"Baron Turidan,
Perhaps, Baron Turidan, wouldst care to name these 'fine people' thee hae met? I should be verra interested to know who thou dost consider ast fine."
He did that already, if you had taken the time to read his post fully. As I recall, he mentioned the Warbird as an example of the fine people he has had the luck to meet. I'd certainly call Ajay a fine personage indeed.
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:25:37 EST
Good old days, new and improved days. Both comments are pure garbage. The old days were not all "good" and the new days are not all that "improved".
As Thomas Carlisle once said, "Every day that is born into the world comes like a burst of music and rings the whole day through, and you make of it a dance, a dirge, or a life march, as you will."
Much as it saddens me somewhat, the old days are gone. However, it's not a tragedy, it's a fact of life. Pining for the past or puffing out your chest declaring the present as "improved" doesn't get a damned thing done. It only ends up in petty arguments about who's formative days are better.
~Sidartha Elgarette
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:25:37 EST
Good old days, new and improved days. Both comments are pure garbage. The old days were not all "good" and the new days are not all that "improved".
As Thomas Carlisle once said, "Every day that is born into the world comes like a burst of music and rings the whole day through, and you make of it a dance, a dirge, or a life march, as you will."
Much as it saddens me somewhat, the old days are gone. However, it's not a tragedy, it's a fact of life. Pining for the past or puffing out your chest declaring the present as "improved" doesn't get a damned thing done. It only ends up in petty arguments about who's formative days are better.
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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 00:22:32 EST
>Pining for the past or puffing out your chest declaring the present as
>"improved" doesn't get a damned thing done.
Sidartha,
While I do agree with your full post the way it was presented. I think I should explain exactly what is meant by "improved days" from my view point. I am not simply puffing out my chest to say it is improved for everyone. To me each day should be looked at as an improvement from the previous day, it may not feel like it at times, but you are alive and in most cases you have learned something new (or should have) with each new thing you have learned
you have improved no matter how insignificant it is a slight improvement. Each day I am here I learn something new so it is a new day and I have improved. Hence new and Improved day for me.
I know the way I said it before could be look at in different view points and that was my initial intention, to see different view points. Not initially planed to start an argument or a disheartened debate. I do know how it sounded when I started it, but it really didnt sound so harsh when I thought it.
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First
Date: 23 Feb 2000 00:22:32 EST
>Pining for the past or puffing out your chest declaring the present as
>"improved" doesn't get a damned thing done.
Sidartha,
While I do agree with your full post the way it was presented. I think I should explain exactly what is meant by "improved days" from my view point. I am not simply puffing out my chest to say it is improved for everyone. To me each day should be looked at as an improvement from the previous day, it may not feel like it at times, but you are alive and in most cases you have learned something new (or should have) with each new thing you have learned
you have improved no matter how insignificant it is a slight improvement. Each day I am here I learn something new so it is a new day and I have improved. Hence new and Improved day for me.
I know the way I said it before could be look at in different view points and that was my initial intention, to see different view points. Not initially planed to start an argument or a disheartened debate. I do know how it sounded when I started it, but it really didnt sound so harsh when I thought it.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:32:11 EST
Madame Elgarette,
Perhaps thee be in need 'o someone ta read th' various missives to thee. Ast usual, yuir penchant for nae understandin' ta common tongue dost thee proud. Perchance thee canst find a 'ealer wh' canst 'eal th' affliction 'o sight, though tis 'ighly doubtful thee canst secure th' services 'o one ta aid in 'ealin' what e'er thee hae in thine addled skull 'o yuirs, an' certes none wh' canst perform th' needed magic or surgery ta grant thee anna modicum
'o intelligence. Senility burdens thee, Madame, th' or simply a case 'o severe dyslexia ast well ast more th' a vast number 'o apparently useless brain cells.
Baron Turidan spoke of meeting 'some fine people', ye ignorant twit. He named none wh' he didst term ast being 'fine'.
The Baron further queried ast ta whether Ah considered th' former Baron, Ajay Bird, The Warbird, ast bein' among those 'o legend. The Baron Turidan then deigned ta add th' 'e hae met said personage, further commenting tha' 'e hae 'eard manna speak 'o th' former baron ast being one 'o th' great legends. The Baron nae equated th' former Baron wi' those fine people 'e hae stated 'e hae met.
Madame Elgarette, tis further amusin' tha' thee state th' thee wouldst call Ajay a fione personage indeed. Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin' right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th' matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh' resides 'pon yuir neck.
Percy Poo,
Ah am always amused when thee display thine ignorance do publicly. Perhaps thee might wander ta th' Rhydin School for the Mentally Bereft, there thee may perhaps might come upon someone what finds yuir jottings in the least intelligent.
Percy, tis long thee hae shown thee wouldnae know a fact were it ta leap up an nip thee in thine arse. So like thee ta consider truth ast libel, Duckie, an' ta falsehoods th' thee hae penned 'pon th' cork ast fact.. Spare us all "History According to de Clermont", for were it left to thee, thee wouldst hold tha' left be right, right be left, an' deceit be 'onor.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:32:11 EST
Madame Elgarette,
Perhaps thee be in need 'o someone ta read th' various missives to thee. Ast usual, yuir penchant for nae understandin' ta common tongue dost thee proud. Perchance thee canst find a 'ealer wh' canst 'eal th' affliction 'o sight, though tis 'ighly doubtful thee canst secure th' services 'o one ta aid in 'ealin' what e'er thee hae in thine addled skull 'o yuirs, an' certes none wh' canst perform th' needed magic or surgery ta grant thee anna modicum
'o intelligence. Senility burdens thee, Madame, th' or simply a case 'o severe dyslexia ast well ast more th' a vast number 'o apparently useless brain cells.
Baron Turidan spoke of meeting 'some fine people', ye ignorant twit. He named none wh' he didst term ast being 'fine'.
The Baron further queried ast ta whether Ah considered th' former Baron, Ajay Bird, The Warbird, ast bein' among those 'o legend. The Baron Turidan then deigned ta add th' 'e hae met said personage, further commenting tha' 'e hae 'eard manna speak 'o th' former baron ast being one 'o th' great legends. The Baron nae equated th' former Baron wi' those fine people 'e hae stated 'e hae met.
Madame Elgarette, tis further amusin' tha' thee state th' thee wouldst call Ajay a fione personage indeed. Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin' right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th' matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh' resides 'pon yuir neck.
Percy Poo,
Ah am always amused when thee display thine ignorance do publicly. Perhaps thee might wander ta th' Rhydin School for the Mentally Bereft, there thee may perhaps might come upon someone what finds yuir jottings in the least intelligent.
Percy, tis long thee hae shown thee wouldnae know a fact were it ta leap up an nip thee in thine arse. So like thee ta consider truth ast libel, Duckie, an' ta falsehoods th' thee hae penned 'pon th' cork ast fact.. Spare us all "History According to de Clermont", for were it left to thee, thee wouldst hold tha' left be right, right be left, an' deceit be 'onor.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:40:35 EST
Baron Var Medici-Giovanni,
Kindly dinna fall into the perception that Ah 'old all th' past ast bein' fioner th' ta present, howe'er, also dinna fall inta th' misperception th' when Ah witness utter folly, deceit, dishonor, ignorance, an' contempt for these grand halls by those wh' wander below stairs, th' Ah shall still pen an' tongue an' accept th' blight 'pon th' ancient blood sport in silence.
Cordially,
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:40:35 EST
Baron Var Medici-Giovanni,
Kindly dinna fall into the perception that Ah 'old all th' past ast bein' fioner th' ta present, howe'er, also dinna fall inta th' misperception th' when Ah witness utter folly, deceit, dishonor, ignorance, an' contempt for these grand halls by those wh' wander below stairs, th' Ah shall still pen an' tongue an' accept th' blight 'pon th' ancient blood sport in silence.
Cordially,
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:54:07 EST
>
>Madame Elgarette, tis further amusin' tha' thee state th' thee wouldst call
>Ajay a fione personage indeed. Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin'
>right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar
>followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th'
>matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae
>slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh' resides 'pon yuir
>neck.
Just because one differs politically from another, does not mean one has to personally hate the other, or discredit their virtues and accomplishments.
A lesson we all need to get in our thick skulls.
Cassius Gaius Maximius
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:54:07 EST
>
>Madame Elgarette, tis further amusin' tha' thee state th' thee wouldst call
>Ajay a fione personage indeed. Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin'
>right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar
>followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th'
>matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae
>slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh' resides 'pon yuir
>neck.
Just because one differs politically from another, does not mean one has to personally hate the other, or discredit their virtues and accomplishments.
A lesson we all need to get in our thick skulls.
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 20:08:24 EST
"Madame Elgarette, tis further amusin' tha' thee state th' thee wouldst call Ajay a fione personage indeed. Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin' right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th' matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh'
resides 'pon yuir neck."
That is your problem, Regent, and it always *has* been your problem. You can't bring yourself to believe that anyone you strongly disagree with can be a decent person and cannot fathom anyone else having the ability to make the distinction you lack.
Aye, I would be remiss if I said that I did not go on about what I thought was a betrayal towards Dalamar, but I never *once* thought that one act such as that would plummet Ajay the garbage heap. Ajay made a mistake in my mind. However, that doesn't remove his status as being a fine man and a skilled dueler.
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 23 Feb 2000 20:08:24 EST
"Madame Elgarette, tis further amusin' tha' thee state th' thee wouldst call Ajay a fione personage indeed. Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin' right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th' matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh'
resides 'pon yuir neck."
That is your problem, Regent, and it always *has* been your problem. You can't bring yourself to believe that anyone you strongly disagree with can be a decent person and cannot fathom anyone else having the ability to make the distinction you lack.
Aye, I would be remiss if I said that I did not go on about what I thought was a betrayal towards Dalamar, but I never *once* thought that one act such as that would plummet Ajay the garbage heap. Ajay made a mistake in my mind. However, that doesn't remove his status as being a fine man and a skilled dueler.
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 00:00:39 EST
"Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin' right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th' matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh' resides 'pon yuir neck."
I should've expected such a comment from you, Jonalyn... You're saying one incident decides all? Ah, indeed, must be why you claim that there are too many "fools" about.
I could dislike a choice of a Baron, yet still hold respect for him.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
Date: 24 Feb 2000 00:00:39 EST
"Ah mos' clearly recall thee caterwaulin' right stridently agin 'im when 'e didst choose ta align agin' Dalamar followin' th' adjudication 'o th' Baron's Council wh' met ta sit 'pon th' matter 'o Huma Dragonbane's challenge unta Dalamar. Perchance th' hae slipped inta th' recesses 'o th' empty addled appendage wh' resides 'pon yuir neck."
I should've expected such a comment from you, Jonalyn... You're saying one incident decides all? Ah, indeed, must be why you claim that there are too many "fools" about.
I could dislike a choice of a Baron, yet still hold respect for him.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 00:04:36 EST
"Ah am always amused when thee display thine ignorance do publicly."
It's amusing how you never pointed out what was exactly so... Ignorant. But, of course, you resorted to witless insults that had nothing to do with anything. Charming.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
Date: 24 Feb 2000 00:04:36 EST
"Ah am always amused when thee display thine ignorance do publicly."
It's amusing how you never pointed out what was exactly so... Ignorant. But, of course, you resorted to witless insults that had nothing to do with anything. Charming.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
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From: skylercj@aol.com (Skyler CJ)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 04:31:46 EST
Leave Jona alone!
She's pregnant with my baby.
-Skyler
Date: 24 Feb 2000 04:31:46 EST
Leave Jona alone!
She's pregnant with my baby.
-Skyler
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 10:27:15 EST
Ok, let's get a vote on this.
Would it be all right to come together as a community and tar and feather Skyler?
Cassius Gaius Maximius
Date: 24 Feb 2000 10:27:15 EST
Ok, let's get a vote on this.
Would it be all right to come together as a community and tar and feather Skyler?
Cassius Gaius Maximius
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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:12:03 EST
>Baron Turidan,
>
>Perhaps, Baron Turidan, wouldst care to name these 'fine people' thee hae
>met? I should be verra interested to know who thou dost consider ast fine.
Jona,
Since you would like to know who I would consider "fine people" that I have met let me give a you a short list.
In no particular order..Ajaybird, Billy Ray, Avery, Var, Jessie Troyan, Percy and there are a few more. Now some I have only met for a short time and only in a few instances, but I have read there messages here on the boards and I have read some about them in the histories. I don't always agree with them and don't even like some of them but all of them I would consider "fine people."
Anymore questions or would you prefer a more detailed list.
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First
Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:12:03 EST
>Baron Turidan,
>
>Perhaps, Baron Turidan, wouldst care to name these 'fine people' thee hae
>met? I should be verra interested to know who thou dost consider ast fine.
Jona,
Since you would like to know who I would consider "fine people" that I have met let me give a you a short list.
In no particular order..Ajaybird, Billy Ray, Avery, Var, Jessie Troyan, Percy and there are a few more. Now some I have only met for a short time and only in a few instances, but I have read there messages here on the boards and I have read some about them in the histories. I don't always agree with them and don't even like some of them but all of them I would consider "fine people."
Anymore questions or would you prefer a more detailed list.
Zafiroo Turidan
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 19:52:12 EST
Madame Elgarette,
So like thee to presume what I may or may nae bring meself to do. Further, so like thee to disregard what wouldst nae uphold thine bigoted, narrowly focused mind set and so like thee to back pedal when tis pointed out thine hypocrisy. Indeed, be thee oft in the habit 'o shouting out what thee now claim thee ne'er once thought? Long hae I known thee to speak without thought, Madame, tis yuir nature. So kind of thee to publicly admit to that most
frequent habit.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 24 Feb 2000 19:52:12 EST
Madame Elgarette,
So like thee to presume what I may or may nae bring meself to do. Further, so like thee to disregard what wouldst nae uphold thine bigoted, narrowly focused mind set and so like thee to back pedal when tis pointed out thine hypocrisy. Indeed, be thee oft in the habit 'o shouting out what thee now claim thee ne'er once thought? Long hae I known thee to speak without thought, Madame, tis yuir nature. So kind of thee to publicly admit to that most
frequent habit.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 19:54:05 EST
Master Starke,
Is it then yuir claim that refering to Baron Turidan ast being a nitwit wast a term of respect? What an interesting premise.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 24 Feb 2000 19:54:05 EST
Master Starke,
Is it then yuir claim that refering to Baron Turidan ast being a nitwit wast a term of respect? What an interesting premise.
Jonalyn Starfare