Open Call

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From: valerastus@aol.com (ValErastus)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 00:55:56 EDT

Warlords and aspiring Warlords,

As most of you who read these messages are aware of, the Baron's Council has recently experienced a surge of activity. From the amusing petitions to me about Avery Blade's extension, to removing him from office, and now finally to deciding on holding a Baron's Tournament. None of this is news to you, nor should the self-serving behavior of some of those Barons be news either.

In the beginning, several Barons demanded that I turn the matter of the Blade-Starke challenge over to them. They neither had the legal backing nor the precedence to make these demands, yet they littered my desk and these boards with their ramblings. After their decision on Blade's forfeiture, they decided to create a Baron's Tournament. At that time, there were ten Barons on the council. Apart from Drey Starke, what Baron on the council had any
legitimate claim to the title of the Overlord? None of them had pressed challenge, yet here they are attempting to get their hands on the title. Not only that, but some Barons, who shall remain nameless, attempted to bar the winners of the Warlord's Tournament from participating in the Baron's Tournament. I have yet to figure out if those specific Barons believed the new Barons to be inferior, or whether they were attempting to give themselves a
better shot at winning the tournament. I highly doubt any of them will come forward with an honest answer.

Where is this all leading? Simply put, I'm tired of this whiny and self-serving behavior that these Barons, these supposed role models of the arena, have been engaging in. Therefore, consider this notice an open call to any Warlords and aspiring Warlords who agree that the Baronial Rings have been tainted by this egocentric behavior. I grow weary of certain higher ranking members of this sport that have nothing better to do than to throw petty
petitions around. I mean to occupy that wasted time with something a little more meaningful. By that I mean challenges for their positions. It is about time that the Barons be more about actions than words. Anyone who agrees with me on this may contact me immediately for further details. Or you can nail your agreement right here next to this message.

My only regret thus far is that I do not hold the Warlord rank, and cannot directly challenge one of these impudent Barons myself. I mean to climb into the rings these next few weeks and remedy that, however.

I realize there have been certain groups in the past that have attempted similar measures. From what I've heard, they were organized to keep the Baron rings free of rabble. Although my quest is along similar lines, it will also be a very overt assault on several current Barons, and most of them can figure out who they are. If you are interested in joining my cause, contact me immediately. That is all for now.

Val Evermeadow

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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 02:52:19 EDT



My, my. Someone managed to gain my interest, once again.

Perhaps I should start thinking about alternatives.

We shall see.

G

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From: elzenith@aol.com (El Zenith)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 03:01:46 EDT

Surely not all of the barons are equally guilty.

Which of these have been the most egregious in acting in such a self-serving manner?

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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 03:33:11 EDT

I'll tell you.


Cletus is a moron, thus, Dae is! They both wanted to keep the new Baron's from attempting the crown! I may be a snitch, but hell if that pisses me off. Talk about self-serving.

Those two represent and symbolize selfish dolts. They should duel with clubs, those petty barbaric weasels. They deserve nothing but the bloody whip.


I'm a Baron. The wench Jonalyn isn't. Moron Ian is not Overlord. Sartan is a pretty lame excuse for a body guard. You all are not God.

If anyone of the above is any of that crap, I'm a stinkin' King. Rex my arse.

I hope I quenched everyone's reading hunger. I also hope you reply well. Pigs.











- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke

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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 06:02:18 EDT



Don't forget Galin, Drey. And I think Deluthan too, can't remember. All I know is that had to be the stupidest I've ever heard anyone on Council suggest.


But Daelin did not state that the Warlord's Tourney winners should be excluded. I qoute from his letter to the Council...

"I also disagree with the prospect of excluding the Warlord Tournament winners from the Tournament. They are Baron's as well, and who's to say that they are not as noble or as
skilled as the lot of us? "

Please do not lie about what a baron wrote, Drey.








Cassius Gaius Maximius

Baron of the 12th

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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 06:24:46 EDT



::Returns to the cork, writing "thing" right below "stupidest" and "I've". An arrow point indicating the word:::








Cassius Gaius Maximius

Baron of the 12th

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From: oortael5@aol.com (OorTael5)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 10:34:24 EDT


Cas,

Yes, I thought originally that it would make sense with how challenges take precedence over one another to keep the people on the Council at the time of Avery's forfeit in the Tournament. I was looking at the winners of the rings in the Tournament as essentially challenges to those rings which they recieved as prizes, so it would make sense that the Overlord matter would take precedence and the Tournament conducted with those on the current Council.
I will be the first to admit that this was extremely flawed logic on my part and I rushed to a hasty decision.

But I would like to thank ye for bringing up this issue so that I could explain. I hope my decisions will satisfy ye more in the future.

-Galin

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From: cletusgandrfald@aol.com (Cletus Gandrfald)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 10:42:28 EDT


I made a mistake and I take full responsibility for it.


Cletus

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From: deluthan@aol.com (Deluthan)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 11:27:19 EDT

Disgusting. I never attempted nor suggested such, simply stated my contradicting feelings on the matter. I believe the idea of excluding the new Barons was more of an afterthought off the slim hope that a Baronial tournament could be completed before the WL.

Valentine has to be getting a kick out of this. I don't speak for the others, but I believe the mentality of the Council was that this tournament was more of a responsibility than an opportunity, that Avery's void left a large mess that needed cleaning up--a chore we considered sparing the new Barons of. I believe the hearts of the Barons were in the right place on this matter.

Del

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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 12:37:01 EDT

Ah, bah... My apologies... I mistaked Dae for Del.






- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke

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From: daedragonsblade@aol.com (Dae Dragonsblade)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 13:57:23 EDT

>Ah, bah... My apologies... I mistaked Dae for Del.
>

Hrm. Considering Del is nothing like me..Ahh well.

To Valentine, and whomever wants to join his coup of sorts,

This is probably about the letters we
sent to prevent yourself from being self-serving. If I remember correctly weren't you the one who took matters into his own hands and decided to give an extension out of your own accord and not give a damn whether the Council or Community cared about it? So in correcting your wrong, we are the ones who should be removed? Where is the logic in that? I agree that some of the Barons wanted to remove the Warlord Tournament
winners from the Tourney, and I am glad they stepped up and admitted their mistakes. (Thank you Cletus and Galin). I stated quite the contrary and I want to thank Cassius for pointing that out to Drey..anyway, some Barons should be removed, yes..I have some words for you though, Valentine and whomever you amass to try and wrest the Eleventh Barony from me..

I'm right here, Come And Get Me.


::scrawled in blazing blue ink::

~Daelin Dragonsblade~

~Regent King of Dragonia~

~Twice Baron of the Seventh and Current Baron of the Eleventh~

~Bearer of the Blue Opal, IceDancer~

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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:16:51 EDT

Since when did Warlord's need Valentine's encouragement in order to challenge? I had always thought that if you don't like a baron due to his/her personality, politics, or intelligence, you could go up and challenge them.

I am curious, Val, as to what you expected when you obtained the job as supervisor for the Duel of Swords? Did you think that you could make rulings whenever you wish, and nobody should complain? Do you think you should take your role without responsibility?
You are an ignorant little child if you think your decisions and actions will always be right and people won't complain/argue. I still feel you had no right whatsoever to grant Avery an extension unless Avery had specifically asked for an extension, and I acted upon my convictions. Whether I was right or wrong is all opinion-based, just as it is opinion-based as to whether or not you were right in granting Avery the extension.
If warlords wish to challenge, fine, but it better as hell not be because you told them to. That would be quite pathetic, and anyone who challenges because some other person told them to isn't worthy of even stepping in the ring, because they have no mind of their own to know what to do. They are puppets; controlled by the will of someone else.
If you would rather see puppets as barons just to satisfy your own ego, Valentine, then you are worse of a person than I think you are now.


Var Medici-Giovanni


Proud Father, Proud Husband

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From: ianmackenzie@aol.com (Ian MacKenzie)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:28:40 EDT

"This is probably about the letters we
sent to prevent yourself from being self-serving. If I remember correctly weren't you the one who took matters into his own hands and decided to give an extension out of your own accord and not give a damn whether the Council or Community cared about it?"

Precisely WHAT benefit did Lord Evermeadow stand to accrue from doing this, Baron Dragonsblade?

You all DO know the meaning of the term "self-serving," don't you? It's clear that several of you don't, insofar as you continually use it in regard to someone who has nothing to gain or lose in the matter you're complaining about.

Not that it matters. Everything's actually worked out for the best, since the thought of an Overlord who's too bloody stupid to realize who's been defending HIS rights isn't something I care to ponder. Therefore, it's MY self-serving pleasure to note that said idiot's chances of getting HIS way are now incredibly worse.

Regards,
Ian Rex.

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From: kalamere@aol.com (Kalamere)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:35:05 EDT

Var,

Why is it that you insist on arguing against the facts? If you must make allegations and voice your contempt, you could at least recognize certain truths and form your argument around them, rather than continuing the same misinformed mantra.

you write:
> I still feel you had no right whatsoever to grant Avery an
> extension unless Avery had specifically asked for an
> extension, and I acted upon my convictions. Whether I
> was right or wrong is all opinion-based, just as it is
> opinion-based as to whether or not you were right in
> granting Avery the extension.

This is a patently false assertion, as Ian and others have been trying to explain to you for some time now. Val had EVERY right to grant the extension. I don't believe he should have granted it and might even be willing to go so far as to say he abused his rights in doing so .. but that does not change the fact that the right to do so was his.

Whether or not Val had the right to grant the extension is in no way a matter of opinion. It is a FACT that he did have the right.

Argue that he *should not* have that right, or that he should not have exercised the right in the way he did.. but please stop demanding that he never had the right to begin with. To continue to do so makes you look more obstinate than sensible and detracts from what, otherwise, may well be valid issues.

~Kalamere Ar'Din

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From: xxlucianxx@aol.com (XxLucianxX)
Date: 01 Jun 2000 15:37:13 EDT

Val -
Bravo. I'll see you in the rings and we can start picking off some barons.

-- Lucian