From: hostpcgreiver@aol.com (HOST PCG Reiver)
Date: 08 Dec 2001 21:39:57 EST
::hangs a note on the door::
Due to lack of patronage, the DoS has closed, two callers and no duelers makes for a bad night. Besides that, Sevn wanted to go see his lovely female companion and I could not stand looking at him pine.
Nych
PS: I might stop in a bit later to see if anyone has gathered.
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From: elijahbasiauhr@aol.com (Elijah Basia Uhr)
Date: 09 Dec 2001 14:53:19 EST
Maybe the staff should take the lack of patronage as a hint, and maybe should analyze why and what they could do to turn that around. If its truly important to them.
Date: 09 Dec 2001 14:53:19 EST
Maybe the staff should take the lack of patronage as a hint, and maybe should analyze why and what they could do to turn that around. If its truly important to them.
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From: spritelep309@aol.com (SpriteLep309)
Date: 09 Dec 2001 14:57:01 EST
Come off it, some people are busy. I was there for a short while but it was not worth staying with two hosts and two other duelers. I stayed for nearly the rest of the night and we brought in a new duelist.
Sprite Argo
Date: 09 Dec 2001 14:57:01 EST
Come off it, some people are busy. I was there for a short while but it was not worth staying with two hosts and two other duelers. I stayed for nearly the rest of the night and we brought in a new duelist.
Sprite Argo
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From: jakvaltrds@aol.com (Jakvaltrds)
Date: 09 Dec 2001 18:46:14 EST
> Maybe the staff should take the lack of patronage as a hint, and
>maybe should analyze why and what they could do to turn that around. If its
>truly important to them.
I had heard of your return after the recent retirement. Welcome back Elijah, prehaps you will explain what it is the callers have to do with this.
Seamus
Date: 09 Dec 2001 18:46:14 EST
> Maybe the staff should take the lack of patronage as a hint, and
>maybe should analyze why and what they could do to turn that around. If its
>truly important to them.
I had heard of your return after the recent retirement. Welcome back Elijah, prehaps you will explain what it is the callers have to do with this.
Seamus
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From: elijahbasiauhr@aol.com (Elijah Basia Uhr)
Date: 10 Dec 2001 13:37:30 EST
Seamus,
Did I say anything about the callers? I said "staff" meaning the people who are truly in charge. Everyone knows the callers are powerless with their hands tied to do anything worthwhile to make this a more inviting place. I mean the ones who are in charge of the callers and so forth.
Elijah Basia Uhr
"We'll save Gaia with Love" ~ Final Fantasy moral
"Rest in Reason, Move in Passion"
~Elijah Basia-Uhr~
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Date: 10 Dec 2001 13:37:30 EST
Seamus,
Did I say anything about the callers? I said "staff" meaning the people who are truly in charge. Everyone knows the callers are powerless with their hands tied to do anything worthwhile to make this a more inviting place. I mean the ones who are in charge of the callers and so forth.
Elijah Basia Uhr
"We'll save Gaia with Love" ~ Final Fantasy moral
"Rest in Reason, Move in Passion"
~Elijah Basia-Uhr~
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From: karenwilder@aol.com (Karen Wilder)
Date: 14 Dec 2001 21:04:41 EST
Thet's odd...
Seems tae me thet th' people "in charge" o' th' callers be callers themselves.
Ifin ye got any suggestions on makin' things better, put 'em up here fer all tae see... or at th' very least, give 'em tae th' staff.
As fer why it be so quiet, I kin give ye a few reasons. Th' cold weather o' winter, th' risin' popularity o' the TDL an' th' constant complainin' o' people who don't e'en show up any more.
Lady Karen Wilder
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Date: 14 Dec 2001 21:04:41 EST
Thet's odd...
Seems tae me thet th' people "in charge" o' th' callers be callers themselves.
Ifin ye got any suggestions on makin' things better, put 'em up here fer all tae see... or at th' very least, give 'em tae th' staff.
As fer why it be so quiet, I kin give ye a few reasons. Th' cold weather o' winter, th' risin' popularity o' the TDL an' th' constant complainin' o' people who don't e'en show up any more.
Lady Karen Wilder
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 14 Dec 2001 21:24:26 EST
Karen~
As someone who rarely (if ever) comes by the Arena anymore, let me ask you this question.
Does an official's performance change because the person who spoke out does not show up as much as you would like them to?
No, not at all. So, what one must do is take an honest look at the performance of the official, and not the attendance of the person questioning said performance. If they're wrong, and the performance is superb, then so be it. If they're right, and the performance of an individual is below par, why should you disregard their words because they don't show up on as much as you do?
"They don't show up anymore," is a cop out, period. They obviously show up enough to see something wrong. So, you either agree or disagree based on the merit of the *argument*....*not* on the attendance of the speaker.
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 14 Dec 2001 21:24:26 EST
Karen~
As someone who rarely (if ever) comes by the Arena anymore, let me ask you this question.
Does an official's performance change because the person who spoke out does not show up as much as you would like them to?
No, not at all. So, what one must do is take an honest look at the performance of the official, and not the attendance of the person questioning said performance. If they're wrong, and the performance is superb, then so be it. If they're right, and the performance of an individual is below par, why should you disregard their words because they don't show up on as much as you do?
"They don't show up anymore," is a cop out, period. They obviously show up enough to see something wrong. So, you either agree or disagree based on the merit of the *argument*....*not* on the attendance of the speaker.
~Sidartha Elgarette
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From: spritelep309@aol.com (SpriteLep309)
Date: 15 Dec 2001 01:13:00 EST
>Does an official's performance change because the person who spoke out does
>not show up as much as you would like them to?
::reads the arguement carefully deciding to get into it::
In my oppinion, the officials are doing fine and seem very sociable. I don't understand why it must be blamed on them. If anyone doesn't like an officials way of doing something don't show up at that time. The officials have feelings as well, understand that. Just like elves.
Sprite Argo
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Date: 15 Dec 2001 01:13:00 EST
>Does an official's performance change because the person who spoke out does
>not show up as much as you would like them to?
::reads the arguement carefully deciding to get into it::
In my oppinion, the officials are doing fine and seem very sociable. I don't understand why it must be blamed on them. If anyone doesn't like an officials way of doing something don't show up at that time. The officials have feelings as well, understand that. Just like elves.
Sprite Argo
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 15 Dec 2001 01:49:02 EST
I'm hungry. Does anyone have any Oregano?
G
Date: 15 Dec 2001 01:49:02 EST
I'm hungry. Does anyone have any Oregano?
G
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From: spritelep309@aol.com (SpriteLep309)
Date: 15 Dec 2001 13:04:29 EST
> Does anyone have any Oregano?
::heads by the cork reading the note and then walking back out.::
::returns with a plastic bag of Oregano placing it on the ground::
Date: 15 Dec 2001 13:04:29 EST
> Does anyone have any Oregano?
::heads by the cork reading the note and then walking back out.::
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From: karenwilder@aol.com (Karen Wilder)
Date: 16 Dec 2001 22:08:40 EST
Lady Sidartha,
Ifin a person does nae come tae th' Arena, then that person do nae have th' right tae critisize th' work o' th' people there.
That would be jest like sayin' the food at a resturant be bad when ye ain't eaten there in more'n six months. Alot can change in e'en a month.
However, look at me words. Ifin ye were tae say thet a resturant would be better ifin they served curry puffs, I would nae have a single complaint about it... save thet I don' like curry puffs.
Suggest improvements, dinnae just point out problems. Thet's what I be sayin'.
Lady Karen Wilder
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Date: 16 Dec 2001 22:08:40 EST
Lady Sidartha,
Ifin a person does nae come tae th' Arena, then that person do nae have th' right tae critisize th' work o' th' people there.
That would be jest like sayin' the food at a resturant be bad when ye ain't eaten there in more'n six months. Alot can change in e'en a month.
However, look at me words. Ifin ye were tae say thet a resturant would be better ifin they served curry puffs, I would nae have a single complaint about it... save thet I don' like curry puffs.
Suggest improvements, dinnae just point out problems. Thet's what I be sayin'.
Lady Karen Wilder
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From: karnafexx@aol.com (Karnafexx)
Date: 17 Dec 2001 01:36:12 EST
Sprite Argo
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Sprite has the vapors.
Date: 17 Dec 2001 01:36:12 EST
Sprite Argo
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Sprite has the vapors.
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 17 Dec 2001 16:47:53 EST
Karen~
That's all well and good, but "you're not here" is still a cop out. The topic being brought up is performance of officials, not attendance of those making complaints. Lets stick to it.
Now, I myself am not making any comments on the performance of officials. However, those who wish to speak out should not be browbeat into silence.
If you disagree with them, make your case. Don't use excuses for why the discussion shouldn't be made.
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 17 Dec 2001 16:47:53 EST
Karen~
That's all well and good, but "you're not here" is still a cop out. The topic being brought up is performance of officials, not attendance of those making complaints. Lets stick to it.
Now, I myself am not making any comments on the performance of officials. However, those who wish to speak out should not be browbeat into silence.
If you disagree with them, make your case. Don't use excuses for why the discussion shouldn't be made.
~Sidartha Elgarette
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From: karenwilder@aol.com (Karen Wilder)
Date: 21 Dec 2001 04:53:38 EST
Lady Sidartha.
I did make me case quite clear.
It be me opinion thet people should nae comment on th' performance o' th' Officials without actually ever seein' thet performance themselves.
It also be me opinion thet people should nae just say there be problems an' thet things could be better, without at least sayin' how things could be better an' how such improvements could be made.
It be all too easy tae jest stand around and say things be bad.
Lady Karen Wilder
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Date: 21 Dec 2001 04:53:38 EST
Lady Sidartha.
I did make me case quite clear.
It be me opinion thet people should nae comment on th' performance o' th' Officials without actually ever seein' thet performance themselves.
It also be me opinion thet people should nae just say there be problems an' thet things could be better, without at least sayin' how things could be better an' how such improvements could be made.
It be all too easy tae jest stand around and say things be bad.
Lady Karen Wilder
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 21 Dec 2001 17:54:58 EST
Karen~
How in the world do you know whether or not each person has ever seen the performance? How can you make that judgement? Do you know who is there when you are not?
While I agree that it is easy to just sit around and say that things are bad without making an effort to change what *is* wrong with the place, it is *equally* easy, as well as simplistic, to sit on one's high horse and disregard other's comments with a simple "you're not around enough."
My point is, put simply, the discussion should be about performance, whether good or ill, and the solutions (should the performance be below par), and *not*, I repeat, *not* about the attendance of the participants of the discussion.
Am I making myself clear, now?
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 21 Dec 2001 17:54:58 EST
Karen~
How in the world do you know whether or not each person has ever seen the performance? How can you make that judgement? Do you know who is there when you are not?
While I agree that it is easy to just sit around and say that things are bad without making an effort to change what *is* wrong with the place, it is *equally* easy, as well as simplistic, to sit on one's high horse and disregard other's comments with a simple "you're not around enough."
My point is, put simply, the discussion should be about performance, whether good or ill, and the solutions (should the performance be below par), and *not*, I repeat, *not* about the attendance of the participants of the discussion.
Am I making myself clear, now?
~Sidartha Elgarette