From: sartanz@aol.com (Sartan Z)
Date: 12 Jun 2002 19:10:03 EDT
That unless the person receiving the shot at the Overlord is the first place winner in the Warlord Tournament, that challenger should be subject to the same rules as any other. In other words, I think he should be Testable or subject to a Best of Three.
What's everyone else's opinion?
Sartan
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 12 Jun 2002 19:16:15 EDT
>That unless the person receiving the shot at the Overlord is the first place
>winner in the Warlord Tournament, that challenger should be subject to the
>same rules as any other. In other words, I think he should be Testable or
>subject to a Best of Three.
>
>What's everyone else's opinion?
I think it's fine the way it is. A prize is a prize. It's like saying if the second place tourney winner has the option of a ring or the shot, should he choose the win, he'd have to have the peer wins to accept the title.
The shot at the Overlord is a prize in the tourney, not exactly under the regular issuing of challenges.
I'm not saying your opinion sucks, I can see where you're coming from with it, I just don't think that there's any problems with it the way it currently stands.
G
Date: 12 Jun 2002 19:16:15 EDT
>That unless the person receiving the shot at the Overlord is the first place
>winner in the Warlord Tournament, that challenger should be subject to the
>same rules as any other. In other words, I think he should be Testable or
>subject to a Best of Three.
>
>What's everyone else's opinion?
I think it's fine the way it is. A prize is a prize. It's like saying if the second place tourney winner has the option of a ring or the shot, should he choose the win, he'd have to have the peer wins to accept the title.
The shot at the Overlord is a prize in the tourney, not exactly under the regular issuing of challenges.
I'm not saying your opinion sucks, I can see where you're coming from with it, I just don't think that there's any problems with it the way it currently stands.
G
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 12 Jun 2002 19:41:29 EDT
I don't it should be testable. The main reasoning goes along with what G says. There's little prize in being tested when you defeat five or so warlords in a pressure situation. Might as well take your time and shoot for fifteen peers.
Though I still say another good prize to offer is for an intercession free challenge against a baron of choice. That's an entirely different subject though.
Var Medici-Giovanni
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Date: 12 Jun 2002 19:41:29 EDT
I don't it should be testable. The main reasoning goes along with what G says. There's little prize in being tested when you defeat five or so warlords in a pressure situation. Might as well take your time and shoot for fifteen peers.
Though I still say another good prize to offer is for an intercession free challenge against a baron of choice. That's an entirely different subject though.
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From: sartanz@aol.com (Sartan Z)
Date: 12 Jun 2002 19:45:32 EDT
>It's like saying if the second place tourney winner has the option of a ring
>or the shot, should he choose the win, he'd have to have the peer wins to
>accept the title.
My feeling is that, while the actual winner of the Tourney has done more than prove himself worthy of a one on one match with the Overlord, that a second or third or fourth or whatever place winner should have that taken into consideration. As I said in my first post, in regards to the Overlord challenge, my opinion is that it should be scaled with only a first place winner getting the Intercession, Best of Three free match and any others being
subject to normal challenge rules.
Sartan
PS: I know I didn't refute or even really attempt to disprove what I quoted, but that wasn't my intention. I just used that as a going point to give a bit of a more formal statement of what I had in mind. Everyone else's opinion free of being shot down is what I'd like to hear.
Date: 12 Jun 2002 19:45:32 EDT
>It's like saying if the second place tourney winner has the option of a ring
>or the shot, should he choose the win, he'd have to have the peer wins to
>accept the title.
My feeling is that, while the actual winner of the Tourney has done more than prove himself worthy of a one on one match with the Overlord, that a second or third or fourth or whatever place winner should have that taken into consideration. As I said in my first post, in regards to the Overlord challenge, my opinion is that it should be scaled with only a first place winner getting the Intercession, Best of Three free match and any others being
subject to normal challenge rules.
Sartan
PS: I know I didn't refute or even really attempt to disprove what I quoted, but that wasn't my intention. I just used that as a going point to give a bit of a more formal statement of what I had in mind. Everyone else's opinion free of being shot down is what I'd like to hear.
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From: chrisgraziano45@aol.com (ChrisGraziano45)
Date: 12 Jun 2002 21:50:05 EDT
It can still be and has been a best of three format.
And I don't think it should be testable.
cg
Date: 12 Jun 2002 21:50:05 EDT
It can still be and has been a best of three format.
And I don't think it should be testable.
cg
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From: elijahbasiauhr@aol.com (Elijah Basia Uhr)
Date: 13 Jun 2002 00:20:06 EDT
I do not think the Warlord Tourney prize of the intercession-free title shot for Overlord should be allowed to be altered from the way it is, dispite a tourney winner's preference in prizes or placement in the tourney to garner them a prize from the tourney. Some tourneys all there is is the title shot, and other tourneys there are also one to a few possible vacant Baron rings. In tournies that there is only the
title shot available, the attendence and participation is a lot lower than when there is Baron rings available. Putting further restrictions on the prize would probably make that worse, and I think take away from the spirit of the tourney and the prize. Is not the Warlord Tourney a good enough Test of Worthiness? You usually have to win at least 5-7 times in a competition to even claim the prize. Besides, there is already the Best of Three format
so the title doesn't hinge on a one shot duel, but a test of endurance as well as skill. Leave it the way it is I say.
Regards with respect, skill, and honor to the Blade,
Rest in reason, pursue in passion,
Elijah Basia Uhr
Baron of the Twelfth of Swords,
Fromer Baron of the Fifth, Seventh, Eigth, and Ninth Rings of Swords,
Warder Mentor of the Dragon Blademaster Dojo
Date: 13 Jun 2002 00:20:06 EDT
I do not think the Warlord Tourney prize of the intercession-free title shot for Overlord should be allowed to be altered from the way it is, dispite a tourney winner's preference in prizes or placement in the tourney to garner them a prize from the tourney. Some tourneys all there is is the title shot, and other tourneys there are also one to a few possible vacant Baron rings. In tournies that there is only the
title shot available, the attendence and participation is a lot lower than when there is Baron rings available. Putting further restrictions on the prize would probably make that worse, and I think take away from the spirit of the tourney and the prize. Is not the Warlord Tourney a good enough Test of Worthiness? You usually have to win at least 5-7 times in a competition to even claim the prize. Besides, there is already the Best of Three format
so the title doesn't hinge on a one shot duel, but a test of endurance as well as skill. Leave it the way it is I say.
Regards with respect, skill, and honor to the Blade,
Rest in reason, pursue in passion,
Elijah Basia Uhr
Baron of the Twelfth of Swords,
Fromer Baron of the Fifth, Seventh, Eigth, and Ninth Rings of Swords,
Warder Mentor of the Dragon Blademaster Dojo
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From: prlunicorn@aol.com (PrlUnicorn)
Date: 13 Jun 2002 09:35:32 EDT
So..... what you are saying, Sartan, is that if the tourney winner elects to take another prize, usually a ring, instead of the shot at the Overlord's crown that the person who ends up getting that title shot should be punished because they got it by default? Somehow that seems extremely unfair and an insult to every Warlord that has ever competed in a tourney.
Date: 13 Jun 2002 09:35:32 EDT
So..... what you are saying, Sartan, is that if the tourney winner elects to take another prize, usually a ring, instead of the shot at the Overlord's crown that the person who ends up getting that title shot should be punished because they got it by default? Somehow that seems extremely unfair and an insult to every Warlord that has ever competed in a tourney.
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From: sartanz@aol.com (Sartan Z)
Date: 13 Jun 2002 19:25:57 EDT
>So..... what you are saying, Sartan, is that if the tourney winner elects to
>take another prize, usually a ring, instead of the shot at the Overlord's
>crown that the person who ends up getting that title shot should be punished
>because they got it by default
It doesn't have to do with punishment, I think the person who took first place in the Tourney is deserving of the Intercession free shot. Not the second third fourth or fourtheenth place winner.
As for that being an insult, eh. If you want my response to that go read my response to Sneggle.
Sartan
Date: 13 Jun 2002 19:25:57 EDT
>So..... what you are saying, Sartan, is that if the tourney winner elects to
>take another prize, usually a ring, instead of the shot at the Overlord's
>crown that the person who ends up getting that title shot should be punished
>because they got it by default
It doesn't have to do with punishment, I think the person who took first place in the Tourney is deserving of the Intercession free shot. Not the second third fourth or fourtheenth place winner.
As for that being an insult, eh. If you want my response to that go read my response to Sneggle.
Sartan
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From: prlunicorn@aol.com (PrlUnicorn)
Date: 13 Jun 2002 22:23:41 EDT
>>It doesn't have to do with punishment, I think the person who took first place in the Tourney is deserving of the Intercession free shot. Not the second third fourth or fourtheenth place winner.<<
The prize is intercession free challenge. No more, no less, no matter who ends up with it and frankly, if you were the second place winner in the tourney that was given that prize and Dal wasn't Overlord, I think you would be singing a different tune.
Date: 13 Jun 2002 22:23:41 EDT
>>It doesn't have to do with punishment, I think the person who took first place in the Tourney is deserving of the Intercession free shot. Not the second third fourth or fourtheenth place winner.<<
The prize is intercession free challenge. No more, no less, no matter who ends up with it and frankly, if you were the second place winner in the tourney that was given that prize and Dal wasn't Overlord, I think you would be singing a different tune.