From: carnage669@aol.com (Carnage669)
Date: 09 Oct 1999 02:08:42 EDT
I was simply providing an explanation for Damien's attitude. Anyone who has endured twenty plus years of being treated like dung tends to be a little unstable.
I also didn't say people didn't have the right to comment, I simply stated that any reply to Damien was fruitless being that he would never read it. Unless of course people like to attack someone to only boost their own self image.
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 09 Oct 1999 04:15:17 EDT
" I was simply providing an explanation for Damien's attitude. Anyone who has endured twenty plus years of being treated like dung tends to be a little unstable.
I also didn't say people didn't have the right to comment, I simply stated that any reply to Damien was fruitless being that he would never read it. Unless of course people like to attack someone to only boost their own self image."
While I am sure you are not referring to me, Cletus (judging from who you addressed earlier), I still feel compelled to state my feelings here. Please bear with me.
I can understand if someone's had a tough life. In fact, I am sure most people can; however, there is a difference between understanding one having a troubled past, and biting one's own tongue when something seems wrong.
What is wrong, exactly? G and Drake I believe made reference to him using a forfeit as a peer win. I believe G also made reference to how he (Damien) disrespected everyone by not saying their name right. Personally, I told Damien my name, and I believe I made him aware of the fact I would not refer to him as the name he likes, if he doesn't wish to do the same for me. Am I attacking his illiteracy? No. I have no problem with his illiteracy,
but I have a problem with him telling us how to say his name, yet ignore us (at least me), when I've politely told him how I would like him to say my name.
To say he had no idea how to spell my name, to me, is a joke. I feel it's fairly obvious he threw in a couple of those other words which rhyme with my name because he thought it was funny. Does he find it as funny when he finds the roles reversed? I think not, according to the last time him and I spoke.
But why write anything? He could still find out what everyone said. There are other people who can read, and I am sure there are some who would do so for him.
Like I said, you probably weren't addressing me, but I figured I should just address the issue(s) myself.
Var Medici-Giovanni
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Date: 09 Oct 1999 04:15:17 EDT
" I was simply providing an explanation for Damien's attitude. Anyone who has endured twenty plus years of being treated like dung tends to be a little unstable.
I also didn't say people didn't have the right to comment, I simply stated that any reply to Damien was fruitless being that he would never read it. Unless of course people like to attack someone to only boost their own self image."
While I am sure you are not referring to me, Cletus (judging from who you addressed earlier), I still feel compelled to state my feelings here. Please bear with me.
I can understand if someone's had a tough life. In fact, I am sure most people can; however, there is a difference between understanding one having a troubled past, and biting one's own tongue when something seems wrong.
What is wrong, exactly? G and Drake I believe made reference to him using a forfeit as a peer win. I believe G also made reference to how he (Damien) disrespected everyone by not saying their name right. Personally, I told Damien my name, and I believe I made him aware of the fact I would not refer to him as the name he likes, if he doesn't wish to do the same for me. Am I attacking his illiteracy? No. I have no problem with his illiteracy,
but I have a problem with him telling us how to say his name, yet ignore us (at least me), when I've politely told him how I would like him to say my name.
To say he had no idea how to spell my name, to me, is a joke. I feel it's fairly obvious he threw in a couple of those other words which rhyme with my name because he thought it was funny. Does he find it as funny when he finds the roles reversed? I think not, according to the last time him and I spoke.
But why write anything? He could still find out what everyone said. There are other people who can read, and I am sure there are some who would do so for him.
Like I said, you probably weren't addressing me, but I figured I should just address the issue(s) myself.
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 09 Oct 1999 15:20:18 EDT
Like Var, I'm not attacking his illiteracy.
> I believe G also made reference to how he (Damien) disrespected everyone by
>not saying their name right.
It's not only the fact that he didn't say the names right, he also insulted all the ones he has as a peer win. Blatantly.
>I was simply providing an explanation for Damien's attitude. Anyone who has
>endured twenty plus years of being treated like dung tends to be a little
>unstable.
While it is noble of you, Cletus, to defend your friend, and try to explain his behaviour, He will receive -NO- sympathy from me simply because he had a hard life. I don't care about his past, and there is no reason for me to care, either.
If he wants to be treated with respect and politely, I suggest you take your friend aside and teach him good manners. Because Not only I, but the majority of the Arena believe that Respect is Earned, not given.
And, judging by his challenge notice, and how insultingly rude he was to everyone, he will have a long way to go to earn my respect.
I won't tolerate stupidity and rudeness to me, my family, or my friends simply because "someone had a hard life." Few people I know had it easy, and I certainly know my life was not easy.
If I can be respected, so can he. Teach him, don't let him run on his own.
*G*
Date: 09 Oct 1999 15:20:18 EDT
Like Var, I'm not attacking his illiteracy.
> I believe G also made reference to how he (Damien) disrespected everyone by
>not saying their name right.
It's not only the fact that he didn't say the names right, he also insulted all the ones he has as a peer win. Blatantly.
>I was simply providing an explanation for Damien's attitude. Anyone who has
>endured twenty plus years of being treated like dung tends to be a little
>unstable.
While it is noble of you, Cletus, to defend your friend, and try to explain his behaviour, He will receive -NO- sympathy from me simply because he had a hard life. I don't care about his past, and there is no reason for me to care, either.
If he wants to be treated with respect and politely, I suggest you take your friend aside and teach him good manners. Because Not only I, but the majority of the Arena believe that Respect is Earned, not given.
And, judging by his challenge notice, and how insultingly rude he was to everyone, he will have a long way to go to earn my respect.
I won't tolerate stupidity and rudeness to me, my family, or my friends simply because "someone had a hard life." Few people I know had it easy, and I certainly know my life was not easy.
If I can be respected, so can he. Teach him, don't let him run on his own.
*G*
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 09 Oct 1999 17:22:26 EDT
Cletus,
If'n Damien canna read, perchance thee canst explain 'is abiltity ta take crayon ta parchment?
Jona
Date: 09 Oct 1999 17:22:26 EDT
Cletus,
If'n Damien canna read, perchance thee canst explain 'is abiltity ta take crayon ta parchment?
Jona
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From: str8clutch@aol.com (Str8Clutch)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 03:36:42 EDT
>Tis somehow ironic th' ta forfeiture be ta one wh' failed ta appear fer 'is
>own challenge.
Was this really necessary?? This has nothing to do with the subject of the post. Yes, I did miss my challenge but that is over and done with; I learned my lesson. I doubt you even know the details of the situation and comparing that with this forfeiture is just ludicrous. If for some reason you feel the need to discuss this, please go about it in a more dignified manner. Maybe meeting the person you are referring to before bringing up emotional
moments in their past would be a good start.
Clutch
Date: 10 Oct 1999 03:36:42 EDT
>Tis somehow ironic th' ta forfeiture be ta one wh' failed ta appear fer 'is
>own challenge.
Was this really necessary?? This has nothing to do with the subject of the post. Yes, I did miss my challenge but that is over and done with; I learned my lesson. I doubt you even know the details of the situation and comparing that with this forfeiture is just ludicrous. If for some reason you feel the need to discuss this, please go about it in a more dignified manner. Maybe meeting the person you are referring to before bringing up emotional
moments in their past would be a good start.
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From: elijaheagleecore@aol.com (ElijahEagleEcore)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 09:48:14 EDT
What is truly a shame is that a duelist would use a forfieted match that they were badly losing as a peer win.
As Guardian of the Seventh till Draco fails me,
~Elijah Eagle Ecore~
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Date: 10 Oct 1999 09:48:14 EDT
What is truly a shame is that a duelist would use a forfieted match that they were badly losing as a peer win.
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 15:15:31 EDT
As a peer win, heck, that he even *took* the win when he was losing badly is a huge shame. Was he *that* desperate for a peer win?
~Sid
Date: 10 Oct 1999 15:15:31 EDT
As a peer win, heck, that he even *took* the win when he was losing badly is a huge shame. Was he *that* desperate for a peer win?
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From: carnage669@aol.com (Carnage669)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 15:20:15 EDT
I don't agree with Damien using that win...but a half a point is considered losing badly?
Date: 10 Oct 1999 15:20:15 EDT
I don't agree with Damien using that win...but a half a point is considered losing badly?
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 16:42:19 EDT
>> I don't agree with Damien using that win...but a half a point is considered losing badly?<<
Oh, my bad. I must have misread it.
Still, he was losing. Why in the world did he take the win?
~Sid
Date: 10 Oct 1999 16:42:19 EDT
>> I don't agree with Damien using that win...but a half a point is considered losing badly?<<
Oh, my bad. I must have misread it.
Still, he was losing. Why in the world did he take the win?
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 19:28:58 EDT
Clutch
Perhaps thine memory fails thee, bu' nae only hae we met, thee didst speak wi' me, among other occasions, th' verra eve thee didst nae appear on time fer yuir challenge. Indeed, thee explained thine unfamiliarity wi' ta' common perception 'o time wi' regard ta th' mos' accepted ast used at ta Nexus Point 'o ta' basement.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 10 Oct 1999 19:28:58 EDT
Clutch
Perhaps thine memory fails thee, bu' nae only hae we met, thee didst speak wi' me, among other occasions, th' verra eve thee didst nae appear on time fer yuir challenge. Indeed, thee explained thine unfamiliarity wi' ta' common perception 'o time wi' regard ta th' mos' accepted ast used at ta Nexus Point 'o ta' basement.
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From: jeffoakenshield@aol.com (Jeff Oakenshield)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 19:59:22 EDT
Score is not da only factor in deciding between a win and a tie.
I, myself, have on many occassions taken a win when I was tied with my opponent simply because I felt disrespected or my time was bein' wasted in some sense. If I don't like my opponent I will take a win, if I don't like how my opponent has acted in da match I will take a win. I do not need da wins but if it will penalize someone I feel needs such a penalty I will enforce dat behavior.
Perhaps Damien was wrong, perhaps ya should ask him first.
~J
Date: 10 Oct 1999 19:59:22 EDT
Score is not da only factor in deciding between a win and a tie.
I, myself, have on many occassions taken a win when I was tied with my opponent simply because I felt disrespected or my time was bein' wasted in some sense. If I don't like my opponent I will take a win, if I don't like how my opponent has acted in da match I will take a win. I do not need da wins but if it will penalize someone I feel needs such a penalty I will enforce dat behavior.
Perhaps Damien was wrong, perhaps ya should ask him first.
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From: maxim128@aol.com (Maxim128)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 21:20:21 EDT
I remember once I was up 4-0 and my opponent left, but for some reason I took the tie. I guess I just didn't feel I needed the win...sound familiar Daelin?
~Magnus~
Date: 10 Oct 1999 21:20:21 EDT
I remember once I was up 4-0 and my opponent left, but for some reason I took the tie. I guess I just didn't feel I needed the win...sound familiar Daelin?
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:07:35 EDT
How neccessary was that, Magnus?
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Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:07:35 EDT
How neccessary was that, Magnus?
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From: maxim128@aol.com (Maxim128)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:36:59 EDT
It wasn't Cas, but since people were talking about taking wins when forfeit, I decided to comment on it. And I would like to know why you are jumping on me for a such a minor thing...any reason?
~Magnus~
Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:36:59 EDT
It wasn't Cas, but since people were talking about taking wins when forfeit, I decided to comment on it. And I would like to know why you are jumping on me for a such a minor thing...any reason?
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:52:33 EDT
Yes there is. You rudely singled out my friend Daelin.
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Date: 10 Oct 1999 22:52:33 EDT
Yes there is. You rudely singled out my friend Daelin.
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