From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:52:56 EST
::reads the many messages on the boards::
Ellisa,
I am not going to harp on you about your mistake in the rules.It was an honest mistake.
When you say "the good old days are gone" is that really a bad thing or should we look at now as "the new and improved days". Thats how I look at it and I think thats the impression that needs to be made.If more of us are were willing to discuss issues rather then pass insults we would get a lot more accomplised.I mean no disrespect with this post you have been around much longer then I and and have seen more in this area then I have.So I guess what
I am trying to get across here is"Cant we all just get along"
Drey,
It was a well fought match.You are a skilled and duelist in wihich I do respect, except for the "nitwit"remark and I look forward to meeting you in the rings again.
Respectively,
Zafiroo Turidan
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:57:39 EST
The gods know this place has degraded over time, even from when *I* first came along.
But if one is not part of the solution, they are part of the problem. Complaining about how matters have gone downhill and only doing that, without attempting to improve them even once only makes things worse.
I would suggest certain individuals attempt the invention of a time machine, if all they can do is pine.
Cassius Gaius Maximius
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:57:39 EST
The gods know this place has degraded over time, even from when *I* first came along.
But if one is not part of the solution, they are part of the problem. Complaining about how matters have gone downhill and only doing that, without attempting to improve them even once only makes things worse.
I would suggest certain individuals attempt the invention of a time machine, if all they can do is pine.
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 17:03:08 EST
> When you say "the good old days are gone" is that really a bad thing or
>should we look at now as "the new and improved days".
This statement I really do not agree with, though as stated in my last post, things can improve if we work hard enough, and also, conditions are a little more agreeable than they were a short while ago.
>If more of us are were willing to discuss issues rather then pass insults we
>would get a lot more accomplised
This statement I agree wholeheartedly with.
Cassius Gaius Maximius
Date: 21 Feb 2000 17:03:08 EST
> When you say "the good old days are gone" is that really a bad thing or
>should we look at now as "the new and improved days".
This statement I really do not agree with, though as stated in my last post, things can improve if we work hard enough, and also, conditions are a little more agreeable than they were a short while ago.
>If more of us are were willing to discuss issues rather then pass insults we
>would get a lot more accomplised
This statement I agree wholeheartedly with.
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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 17:14:32 EST
>> When you say "the good old days are gone" is that really a bad thing or
>>should we look at now as "the new and improved days".
>
>This statement I really do not agree with, though as stated in my last post,
>things can improve if we work hard enough, and also, conditions are a little
>more agreeable than they were a short while ago.
Cas,
would it be more appropriate to say" The new and Improving days"
::Chuckles as he walks off::
Date: 21 Feb 2000 17:14:32 EST
>> When you say "the good old days are gone" is that really a bad thing or
>>should we look at now as "the new and improved days".
>
>This statement I really do not agree with, though as stated in my last post,
>things can improve if we work hard enough, and also, conditions are a little
>more agreeable than they were a short while ago.
Cas,
would it be more appropriate to say" The new and Improving days"
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 19:32:54 EST
Baron Turidan,
If thou dost indeed consider the now ast being the "new and improved days", perhaps thou hast fallen into the acceptance of utter mediocrity ast seems to be the way o' manna 'o those wh' now frequent the once grand cavern. Truly a pity, Baron, though perhaps excusable, for in that thou were nae priviledged to hae known manna 'o the true legends. Perhaps thee wishes the basement to ast well become like unto a ladies tea party, Baron? Rest assured,
though by dint of blade thou hast retained the First, thou doest it little 'onor.
Ellisa,
Lass, ast hae been noted, ta rules 'o engagement were altered with respect ta challenge matches nigh eleven months into the reign of Lord Dalamar Ar'Daumon ast Overlord.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 21 Feb 2000 19:32:54 EST
Baron Turidan,
If thou dost indeed consider the now ast being the "new and improved days", perhaps thou hast fallen into the acceptance of utter mediocrity ast seems to be the way o' manna 'o those wh' now frequent the once grand cavern. Truly a pity, Baron, though perhaps excusable, for in that thou were nae priviledged to hae known manna 'o the true legends. Perhaps thee wishes the basement to ast well become like unto a ladies tea party, Baron? Rest assured,
though by dint of blade thou hast retained the First, thou doest it little 'onor.
Ellisa,
Lass, ast hae been noted, ta rules 'o engagement were altered with respect ta challenge matches nigh eleven months into the reign of Lord Dalamar Ar'Daumon ast Overlord.
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 21:29:04 EST
"If thou dost indeed consider the now ast being the "new and improved days", perhaps thou hast fallen into the acceptance of utter mediocrity ast seems to be the way o' manna 'o those wh' now frequent the once grand cavern."
Being part of the "new" days, I'd say it's hard to tell whether the duels have gotten better or not. It would improve a bit more without people like, Jonalyn, that believe they know everything there is to know about the Duel of Swords. Especially when they throw out rather droll opinions like, "though by dint of blade thou hast retained the First, thou doest it little 'onor." This coming from a woman, who I talked to previously, doesn't even
have her *own* definion of honor. Amusing, indeed.
They've complained long before too, as I've read in old posts. But was the "good old days" really all that good? A lot of you speak of it as some paradise, and try to pressure it upon us like we're the new parasites and we "need" to know that the good days of the duels are finished. Why do you tell us that? I couldn't care to hear it at all, because I'd like to enjoy myself, rather than mourn any losses. We're learning.
I remember when, Elijah, constantly brought up past experiences -- Although it is interesting indeed, welcome to modern times. Sometimes you have to adapt to changes, and any alterings are only for the better; it's not the end of the universe.
Good "old" times. Old, indeed.
Throwing lovely smiles,
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
Date: 21 Feb 2000 21:29:04 EST
"If thou dost indeed consider the now ast being the "new and improved days", perhaps thou hast fallen into the acceptance of utter mediocrity ast seems to be the way o' manna 'o those wh' now frequent the once grand cavern."
Being part of the "new" days, I'd say it's hard to tell whether the duels have gotten better or not. It would improve a bit more without people like, Jonalyn, that believe they know everything there is to know about the Duel of Swords. Especially when they throw out rather droll opinions like, "though by dint of blade thou hast retained the First, thou doest it little 'onor." This coming from a woman, who I talked to previously, doesn't even
have her *own* definion of honor. Amusing, indeed.
They've complained long before too, as I've read in old posts. But was the "good old days" really all that good? A lot of you speak of it as some paradise, and try to pressure it upon us like we're the new parasites and we "need" to know that the good days of the duels are finished. Why do you tell us that? I couldn't care to hear it at all, because I'd like to enjoy myself, rather than mourn any losses. We're learning.
I remember when, Elijah, constantly brought up past experiences -- Although it is interesting indeed, welcome to modern times. Sometimes you have to adapt to changes, and any alterings are only for the better; it's not the end of the universe.
Good "old" times. Old, indeed.
Throwing lovely smiles,
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From: karnafexx@aol.com (Karnafexx)
Date: 21 Feb 2000 23:14:11 EST
Drey,
I'm getting mighty tired of listening to you.
You and others may not like Jona but myself and many others will step forward to pointedly tell you that she is more a fixture of the sport than any active dueler on the roster, I include myself on that list.
She has helped introduce and guide many of the sports most notable of duelers and has always done her best to keep the history, past and present, recorder for posterity. She does all this without ever asking for thanks or payment and it is her love for the sport, a love that is a hundred fold what you feel for the place, that makes her do it.
I don't give a damn what you think about her, Ellisa or the rest of the "old timers," the day I ever hear you tell a person that the don't belong here or the place would be better off if they left, is they day you and I have a serious problem.
You can also take those words and apply them to Ellisa, she's given untold hours of her time to help people, a fact you seem to gloss over in your insults of her.
Again, try saying that crap when I'm in the room and we'll see how you like dueling from a wheelchair.
Billy
Date: 21 Feb 2000 23:14:11 EST
Drey,
I'm getting mighty tired of listening to you.
You and others may not like Jona but myself and many others will step forward to pointedly tell you that she is more a fixture of the sport than any active dueler on the roster, I include myself on that list.
She has helped introduce and guide many of the sports most notable of duelers and has always done her best to keep the history, past and present, recorder for posterity. She does all this without ever asking for thanks or payment and it is her love for the sport, a love that is a hundred fold what you feel for the place, that makes her do it.
I don't give a damn what you think about her, Ellisa or the rest of the "old timers," the day I ever hear you tell a person that the don't belong here or the place would be better off if they left, is they day you and I have a serious problem.
You can also take those words and apply them to Ellisa, she's given untold hours of her time to help people, a fact you seem to gloss over in your insults of her.
Again, try saying that crap when I'm in the room and we'll see how you like dueling from a wheelchair.
Billy
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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 01:07:40 EST
>If thou dost indeed consider the now ast being the "new and improved days",
>perhaps thou hast fallen into the acceptance of utter mediocrity ast seems to
>be the way o' manna 'o those wh' now frequent the once grand cavern.
Jona,
I do speak of the "new and improved days," but as I have pointed out should be stated as "New and Improving days" and I do not take this lightly. I do consider this a "grand cavern"and have met some fine people here. I do not sit idly by grousing about the "good old days" being gone.
What is it Jona that you have done for the community? What steps have you taken to stop the community from falling to your so called "utter mediocrity" ? Is there anything you have done to enhance the community or its surroundings? Have you any wisdom to offer or just some useless insults to drudgingly bestow upon us?
With a seemingly limitless vocabulary you should be capable of providing the community with some insight on how to improve above the mediocre standards that seems to be the way of many in these halls seem to uphold in your eyes.
>Truly a pity, Baron, though perhaps excusable, for in that thou were nae
>priviledged to hae known manna 'o the true legends.
Why would you say I have not been privileged to know the many true legends? Isn't that why we have a history's board? If you mean personally would you not consider "The Warbird" as one of those great legends. I hear many speak of him as one of the great legends and I have had the privilege of meeting him. I have had several conversations and still do. As far as who I do and do not know, I don't think you are capable speaking on my behalf.
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First
Date: 22 Feb 2000 01:07:40 EST
>If thou dost indeed consider the now ast being the "new and improved days",
>perhaps thou hast fallen into the acceptance of utter mediocrity ast seems to
>be the way o' manna 'o those wh' now frequent the once grand cavern.
Jona,
I do speak of the "new and improved days," but as I have pointed out should be stated as "New and Improving days" and I do not take this lightly. I do consider this a "grand cavern"and have met some fine people here. I do not sit idly by grousing about the "good old days" being gone.
What is it Jona that you have done for the community? What steps have you taken to stop the community from falling to your so called "utter mediocrity" ? Is there anything you have done to enhance the community or its surroundings? Have you any wisdom to offer or just some useless insults to drudgingly bestow upon us?
With a seemingly limitless vocabulary you should be capable of providing the community with some insight on how to improve above the mediocre standards that seems to be the way of many in these halls seem to uphold in your eyes.
>Truly a pity, Baron, though perhaps excusable, for in that thou were nae
>priviledged to hae known manna 'o the true legends.
Why would you say I have not been privileged to know the many true legends? Isn't that why we have a history's board? If you mean personally would you not consider "The Warbird" as one of those great legends. I hear many speak of him as one of the great legends and I have had the privilege of meeting him. I have had several conversations and still do. As far as who I do and do not know, I don't think you are capable speaking on my behalf.
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From: verceterixfavre@aol.com (Verceterix Favre)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 01:27:56 EST
Asking someone what they have done for the community is just pointless. I could ask what you have done, Zafiroo. I assure you there will be differences in what you say you have done and what others think and perceive you have done.
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 01:27:56 EST
Asking someone what they have done for the community is just pointless. I could ask what you have done, Zafiroo. I assure you there will be differences in what you say you have done and what others think and perceive you have done.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 01:37:58 EST
Master Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke,
Wast it nae thee what didst require that Ah define 'onor for thee, sirrah? Thee most assuredly wouldst nae hae need ta make such a query hae thee the least inklin' 'o th' meanin'. What it nae thine own definition th' 'onor be bu' a "flimsy word", an exact quote, laddie?
Master Starke hae thee cleaned th' dirt from thine ears, though wouldst hae 'eard mine apprising thee th' one carries one's 'onor within. Howe'er, since thee hae already defined it ast bu' a 'flimsy word", tis methin's thou dost ne'er bear ta burden 'o 'onor, though clearly thou dost bear th' 'o ignorance. Those wh' carry 'onor need nae define it, boyo, they live an' breath it.
Further, Master Starke, thou hast, albeit assuredly unwittingly, graphically portrayed both thineself an' others 'o yuir ilk to be little more th' parasites upon th' body politic. Tis thee appear to disdain those th' hae gone afore, ast might be expected of such ast thee. One canst bu' pity thee an' those 'o wh' thee hae termed ast being 'o th' new days, boyo, for assuredly thee wouldst find it 'ard to discern whether th' duels be better or nae.
Thee may seek comfort in thine ignorance and mediocrity, indeed, wrap thineself securely within it. Perhaps it shall keep thee warm upon a chill eve.
Thou hast displayed little but disdain for knowledge 'o days 'o yore an' those wh' nae only know 'o it bu' hae lived it. Then thee make claim that thou art being pressured, then whine that that thee an' some nebulous 'we' aire learning.
Perhaps thee aire willing to adapt to mediocrity, laddie buck, but tis only the ignorant wh' wouldst make th' ludicrous claim th' anna alterings are only for the better. Run along, boyo, enjoy yuir mediocrity, for certes thee shall find others of like mind wh' wouldst be more than willing to join thee in that wallow.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 22 Feb 2000 01:37:58 EST
Master Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke,
Wast it nae thee what didst require that Ah define 'onor for thee, sirrah? Thee most assuredly wouldst nae hae need ta make such a query hae thee the least inklin' 'o th' meanin'. What it nae thine own definition th' 'onor be bu' a "flimsy word", an exact quote, laddie?
Master Starke hae thee cleaned th' dirt from thine ears, though wouldst hae 'eard mine apprising thee th' one carries one's 'onor within. Howe'er, since thee hae already defined it ast bu' a 'flimsy word", tis methin's thou dost ne'er bear ta burden 'o 'onor, though clearly thou dost bear th' 'o ignorance. Those wh' carry 'onor need nae define it, boyo, they live an' breath it.
Further, Master Starke, thou hast, albeit assuredly unwittingly, graphically portrayed both thineself an' others 'o yuir ilk to be little more th' parasites upon th' body politic. Tis thee appear to disdain those th' hae gone afore, ast might be expected of such ast thee. One canst bu' pity thee an' those 'o wh' thee hae termed ast being 'o th' new days, boyo, for assuredly thee wouldst find it 'ard to discern whether th' duels be better or nae.
Thee may seek comfort in thine ignorance and mediocrity, indeed, wrap thineself securely within it. Perhaps it shall keep thee warm upon a chill eve.
Thou hast displayed little but disdain for knowledge 'o days 'o yore an' those wh' nae only know 'o it bu' hae lived it. Then thee make claim that thou art being pressured, then whine that that thee an' some nebulous 'we' aire learning.
Perhaps thee aire willing to adapt to mediocrity, laddie buck, but tis only the ignorant wh' wouldst make th' ludicrous claim th' anna alterings are only for the better. Run along, boyo, enjoy yuir mediocrity, for certes thee shall find others of like mind wh' wouldst be more than willing to join thee in that wallow.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 05:14:39 EST
Baron Turidan,
Perhaps, Baron Turidan, wouldst care to name these 'fine people' thee hae met? I should be verra interested to know who thou dost consider ast fine.
What dost thee consider ast what thee term these new and improving days, Baron? Improving upon what, Master Turidan? Dost hold thou art some kind of improvement upon those what hae held th' First afore thee? Dost hold thine deeds to be worthy of songs sung by bards? Baron, though perhaps outside the basement thee may hae accomplished something worthy of note, within the rings thou be little more than a personage whose only accomplishment be
managing to 'old onta the First. Shall thee wish then that the community shout Huzzah? Baron, there hae been others much more accomplished than thee whose names shall ring in legend; their tales told unto the fourth and fifth generations long after yuir bones gather dust.
Ast ta thine query, tis one thing Ah hae nae done. That ist ta direct every ignorant lout what Ah hae ta displeasure 'o glimpsing in mine travels in findin' their way inta th' basement as hae been ta penchant of some of the less intelligent wh' frequent ta cavern.
Mediocrity follows mediocrity, Baron, look about thee, open thine eyes beyond wandering in searching only to duel. Perhaps thee might discover among the dross a nugget that be nae pyrite. That ist when thee deign to grace the basement with thine presence, Baron.
Master Turidan, tis folly ta attempt to enlighten those who hae displayed a steady and ever increasing ignorance and who chose to happily wallow in mediocrity ast if it be a sylvan pool filled with nymphs, all unknowing that they indeed but wallow in a puddle along with those of porcine persuasion. Perchance thee canna recognize gold from dross, Baron?
Baron, thee hold title and that be all thee hold, rest assured there shall be few to recall thee beyond a moldering name upon a tattered parchment. Tis unto thee what wouldst question what I hae done for this community, Baron, what community dost mean? Certes thee hae nae fallen into that foolish line of thought that those what find there way below stairs into the basement be anna sort of community? Thou canst be so little traveled ast that or
canst thee, Baron Turidan?
Baron, if thou art so truly foolish ast to believe the histories confer upon thee a knowing of those that hae gone afore, more fool thee. Thee speak of the former Baron, Ajay Bird, he that thee dost call The Warbird. Baron, ast yet, though he hae more oft than nae didst honor unto his title, tis far from a legend be the man.
Further, Baron, kindly dinna presume I wouldst wish to speak on yuir behalf. One would hope thee hae tongue an' t'would appear thee hae managed to pen a note an' place it 'pon the cork. That at least grants thee hae the basic skills most children hae managed.
Be nae dismayed, Baron, thine reign ast bearer of the First shall nae be likely ta outshine that of those what hae gone afore thee. Thee ast so many what now lift blade do little else worthy of note. Where once the names and deeds of those truly legendary rang out in the cavern ast well they didst ring out in the halls of nobles, within taverns and e'en hovels the length and breadth of the realms and e'en upon the vast planes, few it shall be what
e'en whisper those names of the current titled ones beyond the cavern.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 22 Feb 2000 05:14:39 EST
Baron Turidan,
Perhaps, Baron Turidan, wouldst care to name these 'fine people' thee hae met? I should be verra interested to know who thou dost consider ast fine.
What dost thee consider ast what thee term these new and improving days, Baron? Improving upon what, Master Turidan? Dost hold thou art some kind of improvement upon those what hae held th' First afore thee? Dost hold thine deeds to be worthy of songs sung by bards? Baron, though perhaps outside the basement thee may hae accomplished something worthy of note, within the rings thou be little more than a personage whose only accomplishment be
managing to 'old onta the First. Shall thee wish then that the community shout Huzzah? Baron, there hae been others much more accomplished than thee whose names shall ring in legend; their tales told unto the fourth and fifth generations long after yuir bones gather dust.
Ast ta thine query, tis one thing Ah hae nae done. That ist ta direct every ignorant lout what Ah hae ta displeasure 'o glimpsing in mine travels in findin' their way inta th' basement as hae been ta penchant of some of the less intelligent wh' frequent ta cavern.
Mediocrity follows mediocrity, Baron, look about thee, open thine eyes beyond wandering in searching only to duel. Perhaps thee might discover among the dross a nugget that be nae pyrite. That ist when thee deign to grace the basement with thine presence, Baron.
Master Turidan, tis folly ta attempt to enlighten those who hae displayed a steady and ever increasing ignorance and who chose to happily wallow in mediocrity ast if it be a sylvan pool filled with nymphs, all unknowing that they indeed but wallow in a puddle along with those of porcine persuasion. Perchance thee canna recognize gold from dross, Baron?
Baron, thee hold title and that be all thee hold, rest assured there shall be few to recall thee beyond a moldering name upon a tattered parchment. Tis unto thee what wouldst question what I hae done for this community, Baron, what community dost mean? Certes thee hae nae fallen into that foolish line of thought that those what find there way below stairs into the basement be anna sort of community? Thou canst be so little traveled ast that or
canst thee, Baron Turidan?
Baron, if thou art so truly foolish ast to believe the histories confer upon thee a knowing of those that hae gone afore, more fool thee. Thee speak of the former Baron, Ajay Bird, he that thee dost call The Warbird. Baron, ast yet, though he hae more oft than nae didst honor unto his title, tis far from a legend be the man.
Further, Baron, kindly dinna presume I wouldst wish to speak on yuir behalf. One would hope thee hae tongue an' t'would appear thee hae managed to pen a note an' place it 'pon the cork. That at least grants thee hae the basic skills most children hae managed.
Be nae dismayed, Baron, thine reign ast bearer of the First shall nae be likely ta outshine that of those what hae gone afore thee. Thee ast so many what now lift blade do little else worthy of note. Where once the names and deeds of those truly legendary rang out in the cavern ast well they didst ring out in the halls of nobles, within taverns and e'en hovels the length and breadth of the realms and e'en upon the vast planes, few it shall be what
e'en whisper those names of the current titled ones beyond the cavern.
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 06:11:22 EST
"Wast it nae thee what didst require that Ah define 'onor for thee, sirrah?"
I didn't ask the definition, but your own.
"What it nae thine own definition th' 'onor be bu' a "flimsy word", an exact quote, laddie?"
It's a part of a whole sentence you left out, with plenty more to support my meaning.
"Master Starke hae thee cleaned th' dirt from thine ears?"
I should propose the query to you, or have I already?
"Those wh' carry 'onor need nae define it, boyo, they live an' breath it."
Ah, you mustn't breathe often.
"thee wouldst find it 'ard to discern whether th' duels be better or nae"
Did I not say that? Think I did.
"Thou hast displayed little but disdain for knowledge 'o days 'o yore an' those wh' nae only know 'o it bu' hae lived it."
Baseless assumptions. I've read the histories thoroughly, and have been provided once with a teacher that tried to teach me a bit. You were the last one on my list to ask for any assistance -- Thankfully. Weren't you the one that said assumptions are the basis of fools? A pity.
"Then thee make claim that thou art being pressured, then whine that that thee an' some nebulous 'we' aire learning."
The point is, what?
It's also kind of humorous how you seem to play my friend at times, and then one time upon challenge there's a disturbance. It's odd how you seemed to have enjoyed the presence of Zafiroo, and tried to make him and I begin an altercation, among other things. Are you fickle, or have all the years of the Duel of Swords rotted your brain?
Billy,
Let me try and rephrase, since I didn't come out too good on that end... She seems to revolve around a life of contempt with an infinite number of duelists. Perhaps she hasn't received her "thanks" yet?
"You and others may not like Jona but myself and many others will step forward to pointedly tell you that she is more a fixture of the sport than any active dueler on the roster"
That's more than obvious. What do you think you're doing now? It was easy to predetermine the future, and a note such as this upon the boards to retort to mine own. Perchance she has blinded many with her fixtures, because I can see all my heart desires of her. Sure, she belongs here, but I might enjoy life better if I were deaf. Might.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
Date: 22 Feb 2000 06:11:22 EST
"Wast it nae thee what didst require that Ah define 'onor for thee, sirrah?"
I didn't ask the definition, but your own.
"What it nae thine own definition th' 'onor be bu' a "flimsy word", an exact quote, laddie?"
It's a part of a whole sentence you left out, with plenty more to support my meaning.
"Master Starke hae thee cleaned th' dirt from thine ears?"
I should propose the query to you, or have I already?
"Those wh' carry 'onor need nae define it, boyo, they live an' breath it."
Ah, you mustn't breathe often.
"thee wouldst find it 'ard to discern whether th' duels be better or nae"
Did I not say that? Think I did.
"Thou hast displayed little but disdain for knowledge 'o days 'o yore an' those wh' nae only know 'o it bu' hae lived it."
Baseless assumptions. I've read the histories thoroughly, and have been provided once with a teacher that tried to teach me a bit. You were the last one on my list to ask for any assistance -- Thankfully. Weren't you the one that said assumptions are the basis of fools? A pity.
"Then thee make claim that thou art being pressured, then whine that that thee an' some nebulous 'we' aire learning."
The point is, what?
It's also kind of humorous how you seem to play my friend at times, and then one time upon challenge there's a disturbance. It's odd how you seemed to have enjoyed the presence of Zafiroo, and tried to make him and I begin an altercation, among other things. Are you fickle, or have all the years of the Duel of Swords rotted your brain?
Billy,
Let me try and rephrase, since I didn't come out too good on that end... She seems to revolve around a life of contempt with an infinite number of duelists. Perhaps she hasn't received her "thanks" yet?
"You and others may not like Jona but myself and many others will step forward to pointedly tell you that she is more a fixture of the sport than any active dueler on the roster"
That's more than obvious. What do you think you're doing now? It was easy to predetermine the future, and a note such as this upon the boards to retort to mine own. Perchance she has blinded many with her fixtures, because I can see all my heart desires of her. Sure, she belongs here, but I might enjoy life better if I were deaf. Might.
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From: spikushell@aol.com (Spikushell)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 09:29:53 EST
Rix,
You are correct..My perception and someone else's will be different.
Jona,
I expected nothing less then your amusing chatter::chuckles::
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First
Date: 22 Feb 2000 09:29:53 EST
Rix,
You are correct..My perception and someone else's will be different.
Jona,
I expected nothing less then your amusing chatter::chuckles::
Zafiroo Turidan
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:23:28 EST
>She has helped introduce and guide many of the sports most notable of duelers
>and has always done her best to keep the history, past and present, recorder
>for posterity. She does all this without ever asking for thanks or payment
>and it is her love for the sport, a love that is a hundred fold what you feel
>for the place, that makes her do it.
Billy Ray,
I am forced to disagree with you on this matter. Jonalyn does not keep the history of the place recorded for posterity, but rather attempts to impress her viewpoint of events and people upon others even when they fly in blatant contradiction of the facts. She is one of the major forces keeping the spirit of intolerance and vicious divisiveness that has so poisoned the Arena of late alive. She shamelessly libels those she personally dislikes at every
oppurtunity, whether the facts agree with her statements or not. She defends the same conduct in herself and her friends that she decries in those she dislikes, and is guilty of most of the real or imagined offenses of which she accuses others.
Is that supposed to change your mind? Of course not. Is this a defense of Drey? Not really. I think he used some poor judgement in the whole affair of his challenge, even if some of his initial remarks were meant in humor. As for the whole mess, it doesn't matter much to me one way or the other. Drey and Zafiroo both strike me something as ciphers.
However, I felt the need to answer your statements regarding the Lady Starfare. If you like, I will be glad to repeat them to your face anyplace you like.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:23:28 EST
>She has helped introduce and guide many of the sports most notable of duelers
>and has always done her best to keep the history, past and present, recorder
>for posterity. She does all this without ever asking for thanks or payment
>and it is her love for the sport, a love that is a hundred fold what you feel
>for the place, that makes her do it.
Billy Ray,
I am forced to disagree with you on this matter. Jonalyn does not keep the history of the place recorded for posterity, but rather attempts to impress her viewpoint of events and people upon others even when they fly in blatant contradiction of the facts. She is one of the major forces keeping the spirit of intolerance and vicious divisiveness that has so poisoned the Arena of late alive. She shamelessly libels those she personally dislikes at every
oppurtunity, whether the facts agree with her statements or not. She defends the same conduct in herself and her friends that she decries in those she dislikes, and is guilty of most of the real or imagined offenses of which she accuses others.
Is that supposed to change your mind? Of course not. Is this a defense of Drey? Not really. I think he used some poor judgement in the whole affair of his challenge, even if some of his initial remarks were meant in humor. As for the whole mess, it doesn't matter much to me one way or the other. Drey and Zafiroo both strike me something as ciphers.
However, I felt the need to answer your statements regarding the Lady Starfare. If you like, I will be glad to repeat them to your face anyplace you like.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 12:38:37 EST
::chuckles as he reads the last few messages::
All in all it was an excellent match Drey.
Lets just leave it at that.
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First
Date: 22 Feb 2000 12:38:37 EST
::chuckles as he reads the last few messages::
All in all it was an excellent match Drey.
Lets just leave it at that.
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First