From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 19:55:43 EST
Jonalyn~
I for one thought there was a precedent among Challenges that you don't use the scheduling to get some petty revenge. I for one thought that it was traditionally seen as bad form to deliberately schedule a match when you know your opponent cannot make that time.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's traditionally okay to screw your opponant deliberately in a childish act of revenge. Is it?
~Sidartha
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 21:51:16 EST
Madame Elgarette,
Precedent, Madame? Bad form, Madame? Indeed, thee aire then nae recallin' th' manna times when t'was a warlord didst challenge fer rankin' another warlord knowin' ta challenged couldst nae appear. Thee mayhap wouldst be verra surprised ta learn ta names 'o those wh' did. T'would appear ye thought wrong.
Tis th' only thin' a challenger needs mus' do ist appear fer ta match. Ah am nae aware th' ta Goddess wast nae apprised by ta baron 'o ta date an' time. Tis right interestin' thee seem ta be claimin' th' Baron Mortis sought wh' thee term petty revenge. Be thee now speakin' fer ta Baron?
Tis also right interestin' th' Ah dinna recall thee castigatin' ta former Baron Elijah fer ta same ast what thee do attribute unta th' Baron Mortis.
Madame, hae thee been keepin' acquaintance 'o late wi' some low life? Yuir comments do appear ast thee hae been perhaps 'angin' round ta slums er ta docks.
Ast ta wh' be traditional, Madame, perchance thee hae nae noticed th' neither ta Goddess nor ta Baron give a righteous bluidy damn wh' be traditional. Ah suspect ta Goddess went a whimperin' an' a whinin' , bleatin' like a stuck pig ta gi' 'er way, for she mos' assuredly wast amused an' certes nae in ta least concerned th' she hae failed ta appear fer ta match.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 23 Nov 1999 21:51:16 EST
Madame Elgarette,
Precedent, Madame? Bad form, Madame? Indeed, thee aire then nae recallin' th' manna times when t'was a warlord didst challenge fer rankin' another warlord knowin' ta challenged couldst nae appear. Thee mayhap wouldst be verra surprised ta learn ta names 'o those wh' did. T'would appear ye thought wrong.
Tis th' only thin' a challenger needs mus' do ist appear fer ta match. Ah am nae aware th' ta Goddess wast nae apprised by ta baron 'o ta date an' time. Tis right interestin' thee seem ta be claimin' th' Baron Mortis sought wh' thee term petty revenge. Be thee now speakin' fer ta Baron?
Tis also right interestin' th' Ah dinna recall thee castigatin' ta former Baron Elijah fer ta same ast what thee do attribute unta th' Baron Mortis.
Madame, hae thee been keepin' acquaintance 'o late wi' some low life? Yuir comments do appear ast thee hae been perhaps 'angin' round ta slums er ta docks.
Ast ta wh' be traditional, Madame, perchance thee hae nae noticed th' neither ta Goddess nor ta Baron give a righteous bluidy damn wh' be traditional. Ah suspect ta Goddess went a whimperin' an' a whinin' , bleatin' like a stuck pig ta gi' 'er way, for she mos' assuredly wast amused an' certes nae in ta least concerned th' she hae failed ta appear fer ta match.
Jonalyn Starfare
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From: verceterixfavre@aol.com (Verceterix Favre)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 23:09:08 EST
It took me over two years to reach Warlord. I really must not be that skilled . . .
And I pushed for a rescheduling of this match. It should have been done without the council even stepping in.
-Rix
Baron of the Fifth
Date: 23 Nov 1999 23:09:08 EST
It took me over two years to reach Warlord. I really must not be that skilled . . .
And I pushed for a rescheduling of this match. It should have been done without the council even stepping in.
-Rix
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 23:17:35 EST
Jonalyn~
To make things clear in the beginning, I am not going to let you turn this into a personal bickering match like I did the last time, so you can leave the comments about the slums and docks to the Abyss where they belong.
Anyway, back to the subject. Apparantly I have to repeat myself. I am not condoning the behavior of Ariadne. I just do not see the reason why she is the only one casted as the injurious party in this. They both behaved badly. My point in all of this is that Damien Mortis should have risen above it, and yet all he did was wallow in the mud with his challenger by being petty and scheduling his match when he knew she couldn't make it out of spite.
As for me speaking for him, what else do you call it when you keep refusing every attempt to schedule a proper time for the both of them to make it? I call it petty spite. I don't see why you see fit to defend the man.
In the other situations you are alluding to, I would need to know the situation before forming an opinion of those.
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 23 Nov 1999 23:17:35 EST
Jonalyn~
To make things clear in the beginning, I am not going to let you turn this into a personal bickering match like I did the last time, so you can leave the comments about the slums and docks to the Abyss where they belong.
Anyway, back to the subject. Apparantly I have to repeat myself. I am not condoning the behavior of Ariadne. I just do not see the reason why she is the only one casted as the injurious party in this. They both behaved badly. My point in all of this is that Damien Mortis should have risen above it, and yet all he did was wallow in the mud with his challenger by being petty and scheduling his match when he knew she couldn't make it out of spite.
As for me speaking for him, what else do you call it when you keep refusing every attempt to schedule a proper time for the both of them to make it? I call it petty spite. I don't see why you see fit to defend the man.
In the other situations you are alluding to, I would need to know the situation before forming an opinion of those.
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 23 Nov 1999 23:51:56 EST
It took me over two years to reach Warlord. I really must not be that skilled . . . - Rix
I'd expect such a comment from you.
If you actually took time to read what I wrote, maybe your statement would mean something.
Some people just 'have it' and some people it takes time. Much like yourself, Rix.
*I* think making warlord in two weeks is a very good number, but I never said you weren't skilled if you made warlord anytime beyond that line.
Back to elementary we go...
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
Date: 23 Nov 1999 23:51:56 EST
It took me over two years to reach Warlord. I really must not be that skilled . . . - Rix
I'd expect such a comment from you.
If you actually took time to read what I wrote, maybe your statement would mean something.
Some people just 'have it' and some people it takes time. Much like yourself, Rix.
*I* think making warlord in two weeks is a very good number, but I never said you weren't skilled if you made warlord anytime beyond that line.
Back to elementary we go...
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
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From: drakewyni@aol.com (Drakewyn I)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 00:27:34 EST
A few simple facts.
One. The Baron indicated a time of 9pm on Saturday.
Two. The Warlady indicated she could not make that time and suggested Friday.
Three. The Baron indicated that Friday was unacceptable and suggested Sunday.
Four. They Warlady indicated that Saturday would be acceptable, if the duel was pushed back by an hour and a half.
Five. The Baron never answered that letter.
That is all.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon.
Date: 24 Nov 1999 00:27:34 EST
A few simple facts.
One. The Baron indicated a time of 9pm on Saturday.
Two. The Warlady indicated she could not make that time and suggested Friday.
Three. The Baron indicated that Friday was unacceptable and suggested Sunday.
Four. They Warlady indicated that Saturday would be acceptable, if the duel was pushed back by an hour and a half.
Five. The Baron never answered that letter.
That is all.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon.
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From: verceterixfavre@aol.com (Verceterix Favre)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 03:10:31 EST
Sarcasm, Mister Starke. Writing that made me laugh, and I expect made a few others chuckle. That was its intent.
So it really wasn't meant to mean anything, so thank you for noticing. Hopefully you were expecting this from me as well.
-Rix
Date: 24 Nov 1999 03:10:31 EST
Sarcasm, Mister Starke. Writing that made me laugh, and I expect made a few others chuckle. That was its intent.
So it really wasn't meant to mean anything, so thank you for noticing. Hopefully you were expecting this from me as well.
-Rix
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 11:05:27 EST
Its rather difficult to see sarcasm from a pen.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
Date: 24 Nov 1999 11:05:27 EST
Its rather difficult to see sarcasm from a pen.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
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From: rlupton@aol.com (RLupton)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 11:52:28 EST
I saw the sarcasm.
I must be otherwise enlightened.
~ Lup
Date: 24 Nov 1999 11:52:28 EST
I saw the sarcasm.
I must be otherwise enlightened.
~ Lup
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From: sartanz@aol.com (Sartan Z)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 13:19:44 EST
Bottom line, if a person has the time, they can make Warlord in a week, if they really feel like it. It doesn't take any amount of skill, it takes non-stop dueling. Also, to make Warlord, all one has to do is defeat 15 more people than he/she loses to. It doesn't say one must defeat anyone of any skill. To make Warlord, one could simply duel newcomers to the Arena and take easy wins from them. Making Warlord in any
amount of time isn't an achievement anymore.
Oh, and you've always been otherwise enlightened, Lup.
Sartan
Date: 24 Nov 1999 13:19:44 EST
Bottom line, if a person has the time, they can make Warlord in a week, if they really feel like it. It doesn't take any amount of skill, it takes non-stop dueling. Also, to make Warlord, all one has to do is defeat 15 more people than he/she loses to. It doesn't say one must defeat anyone of any skill. To make Warlord, one could simply duel newcomers to the Arena and take easy wins from them. Making Warlord in any
amount of time isn't an achievement anymore.
Oh, and you've always been otherwise enlightened, Lup.
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 13:25:36 EST
Sartan brought up a point that I was just about to. What is the quality of competition Ariadne faced in those two weeks to Warlord?
Cas-Warlord,Centurion,Loving husband,Former Baron of the Sixth and Eighth
Date: 24 Nov 1999 13:25:36 EST
Sartan brought up a point that I was just about to. What is the quality of competition Ariadne faced in those two weeks to Warlord?
Cas-Warlord,Centurion,Loving husband,Former Baron of the Sixth and Eighth
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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:23:27 EST
I voted for the rematch and this was pointless to bring to the council..We are not here to schedule anyones challenge matches.
I made a mistake with the date of my challenge match with Deagarth it was very simple for us to work it out and I dont see why it wouldnt be for these two.
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First
Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:23:27 EST
I voted for the rematch and this was pointless to bring to the council..We are not here to schedule anyones challenge matches.
I made a mistake with the date of my challenge match with Deagarth it was very simple for us to work it out and I dont see why it wouldnt be for these two.
Zafiroo Turidan
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From: humadragbn@aol.com (HumaDragbn)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:26:50 EST
I saw the sarcasm too Lupt, and I'm a buffon. Or so I am told.
Huma
Date: 24 Nov 1999 15:26:50 EST
I saw the sarcasm too Lupt, and I'm a buffon. Or so I am told.
Huma
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 16:01:10 EST
>Bottom line, if a person has the time, they can make Warlord in a week, if
>they really feel like it. It doesn't take any amount of skill, it takes
>non-stop dueling. Also, to make Warlord, all one has to do is defeat 15 more
>people than he/she loses to. It doesn't say one must defeat anyone of any
>skill. To make Warlord, one could simply duel newcomers to the Arena and
>take easy wins from them. Making Warlord in any
>amount of time isn't an achievement anymore.
Actually, plenty of skill was definately involved. Even against newcomers.
You can't make assumptions that she just dueled the 'newcomers' and that she took advantage of them. She was a newcomer herself, as you know.
Need some examples that duel/ed constantly that couldn't make warlord for awhile, or still aren't?
Aerenth (Sorry, bud. ;) )
Fyn Mctege
Cassius Maximius, if I do remember.
Cletus Ganderfald
G'nort, I think.
Galin Taelca
Zamhumlem
Falablah, if I'm not mistaken.
Tassle
Auritan (the Meek)
Ceridwin
Xerzes
Hunter Mano
Guillermus
Isaah Prince
Illusia
Kattya
Zodiac
Xavier
Bode BoJangles
Bargos McConahue
Probly asking what was the point of all this...
Those are all modern or past warlords/or duelist that haven't made anything at all, that I think are stuggling or struggled to gain rank. Plus, I'm guessing they dueled a lot.
Also, for Angel. If it was so easy for her to beat all the newcomers and take advantage of them, why didn't her peer warlords beat the crap out of her? Why didn't they push her down a rank?
Having time is only a minor part of it, but knowing how to work a blade is top of the line.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
Date: 24 Nov 1999 16:01:10 EST
>Bottom line, if a person has the time, they can make Warlord in a week, if
>they really feel like it. It doesn't take any amount of skill, it takes
>non-stop dueling. Also, to make Warlord, all one has to do is defeat 15 more
>people than he/she loses to. It doesn't say one must defeat anyone of any
>skill. To make Warlord, one could simply duel newcomers to the Arena and
>take easy wins from them. Making Warlord in any
>amount of time isn't an achievement anymore.
Actually, plenty of skill was definately involved. Even against newcomers.
You can't make assumptions that she just dueled the 'newcomers' and that she took advantage of them. She was a newcomer herself, as you know.
Need some examples that duel/ed constantly that couldn't make warlord for awhile, or still aren't?
Aerenth (Sorry, bud. ;) )
Fyn Mctege
Cassius Maximius, if I do remember.
Cletus Ganderfald
G'nort, I think.
Galin Taelca
Zamhumlem
Falablah, if I'm not mistaken.
Tassle
Auritan (the Meek)
Ceridwin
Xerzes
Hunter Mano
Guillermus
Isaah Prince
Illusia
Kattya
Zodiac
Xavier
Bode BoJangles
Bargos McConahue
Probly asking what was the point of all this...
Those are all modern or past warlords/or duelist that haven't made anything at all, that I think are stuggling or struggled to gain rank. Plus, I'm guessing they dueled a lot.
Also, for Angel. If it was so easy for her to beat all the newcomers and take advantage of them, why didn't her peer warlords beat the crap out of her? Why didn't they push her down a rank?
Having time is only a minor part of it, but knowing how to work a blade is top of the line.
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From: daedragonsblade@aol.com (Dae Dragonsblade)
Date: 24 Nov 1999 17:35:32 EST
I voted for the rematch. Honestly, I don't see what the problem is. Sure these two aren't shining examples of good people, but I'll be the first to say I've done some pretty bad things in my lifetime. Just let them duel and hope for the best (depending on what your idea of best is, it could be someone "worthy" challenging them immediately after the standings come out). After all, there are only two things you can do
about them dueling for the 8th:
1) Nothing at all
2) Like it (or maybe not)
::scrawled in blazing blue ink::
~Daelin Dragonsblade~
~Regent King of Dragonia~
~Twice Baron of the Seventh and Current Baron of the Eleventh~
Date: 24 Nov 1999 17:35:32 EST
I voted for the rematch. Honestly, I don't see what the problem is. Sure these two aren't shining examples of good people, but I'll be the first to say I've done some pretty bad things in my lifetime. Just let them duel and hope for the best (depending on what your idea of best is, it could be someone "worthy" challenging them immediately after the standings come out). After all, there are only two things you can do
about them dueling for the 8th:
1) Nothing at all
2) Like it (or maybe not)
::scrawled in blazing blue ink::
~Daelin Dragonsblade~
~Regent King of Dragonia~
~Twice Baron of the Seventh and Current Baron of the Eleventh~