From: rdihelix@aol.com (RDI Helix)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 10:26:03 EDT
Sitting in her office, surrounded by empty paper coffee cups and food
wrappers from the Red Dragon kitchen, Helix looks up at the sound of a
note slid underneath her door. One of the bunkhouse mice hops toward
it, gives it a sniff or two, carefully pinches it between it's sharp
teeth, and drags it towarded the exhausted Supervisor's desk. Behind
the desk Helix sits, dark circles under her eyes, chin in hand, watching
the show.
She grunts a thanks to the mouse upon delivery and summons the energy to
open the note. Skimming through it she bursts in pathetic laughter, in
the process knocking a few empty cups from her desk.
A shadow appears in the light beneath her door. A familiar female voice
asks timidly, "Uh Lixy? You alright?"
Helix looks toward the door and dissolves into another fit of giggles.
As the person fearfully retreats, she wipes the tears of mirth of her
eyes, and slaps a piece of stationary in front of her.
~Today this office has received an official petition from a baron to
remove Kalamere from the Council. Excuse me whilst I get the facts
straight.
With respect to the matter before the Council, some argue that the
Warlord Huma Dragonbane should be kept to what some Barons deem the
"honorable" thin', and be forced to keep 'is promise to the Baron
Oakenshield. The fact that an "honor duel" is not a legally recognized
event is argued to be irrelevent.
Now we have a situation where a Baron has lost 'is ring. In the past,
twas never questioned and considered "honorable" that the losin' baron
step away when a Council was in session, and that the victor of the
match step in to take what would be his or her rightful place.
Now we have a situation where some who've commented as noted above with
respect to Warlord Dragonbane, claim that Kalamere should *not* be kept
to what has heretofore been deemed the "honorable" thin', and should
instead only have to adhere to what is legal.
This office finds the whole situation sad, self-servin', amusin' and
none too little ironic. But I digress...
In keepin' with an earlier decision regardin' the Overlord's rights and
privileges, this office deems it *legal* that Kalamere keep his place on
the Council, until such time as the Standin's Keeper notes 'is rank
otherwise, and that until then, said Baron should enjoy all the rights
and privileges of 'is rank.
~Helix
Regarding Kalamere's seat
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From: kalamere@aol.com (Kalamere)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 11:45:50 EDT
Lady Girvin,
I cannot begin to state my offense at having my honor called into question on this.
Perhaps past Barons have stepped away from the council when being removed from their station, but if they have done so as "a matter of honor" I'd certainly never heard them refer to it as such.
Honor in this matter, as far as my own feelings on the subject, mandated that I ask of Damon his preference to determine whether he wished to take the seat and also to send a simple letter to you asking no more than what the ruling on the matter is. Damon, having no interest in things of a political nature, was in no hurry to take up a seat on the council and agreed that I continue. You responded with nothing more than saying that the ruling on the
matter is that Barons retain all rights and privileges until the standings reflect otherwise.
Now, after never once mentioning your ideas on the honor of the subject beforehand, you write to the community at large and take the opportunity to condemn my actions. With all the talks we have had over the years and the countless hours I've spent assisting you in finding the loopholes of DoS and closing them, I had considered us better friends than that m'lady. It grieves me to see I was mistaken and now to feel as if I'd merely been used. I'd
thought perhaps you could have mentioned this to me in person and give me the opportunity to reconsider.
In taking the matter to Damon and asking his preference, fully willing to step aside if it had been his choice, I feel that honor has been served. Furthermore, having been requested by AJ to assist him through to the end with a resolution that will be forthcoming this day, I will not now go against my word to AJ and send the council into another week of deliberation. I do feel that honor has been served, but certainly I shall never see our
relations nor the duel of swords itself in the same light I once had.
~Kalamere Ar'Din...
Date: 20 Oct 1998 11:45:50 EDT
Lady Girvin,
I cannot begin to state my offense at having my honor called into question on this.
Perhaps past Barons have stepped away from the council when being removed from their station, but if they have done so as "a matter of honor" I'd certainly never heard them refer to it as such.
Honor in this matter, as far as my own feelings on the subject, mandated that I ask of Damon his preference to determine whether he wished to take the seat and also to send a simple letter to you asking no more than what the ruling on the matter is. Damon, having no interest in things of a political nature, was in no hurry to take up a seat on the council and agreed that I continue. You responded with nothing more than saying that the ruling on the
matter is that Barons retain all rights and privileges until the standings reflect otherwise.
Now, after never once mentioning your ideas on the honor of the subject beforehand, you write to the community at large and take the opportunity to condemn my actions. With all the talks we have had over the years and the countless hours I've spent assisting you in finding the loopholes of DoS and closing them, I had considered us better friends than that m'lady. It grieves me to see I was mistaken and now to feel as if I'd merely been used. I'd
thought perhaps you could have mentioned this to me in person and give me the opportunity to reconsider.
In taking the matter to Damon and asking his preference, fully willing to step aside if it had been his choice, I feel that honor has been served. Furthermore, having been requested by AJ to assist him through to the end with a resolution that will be forthcoming this day, I will not now go against my word to AJ and send the council into another week of deliberation. I do feel that honor has been served, but certainly I shall never see our
relations nor the duel of swords itself in the same light I once had.
~Kalamere Ar'Din...
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From: kaprielle@aol.com (Kaprielle)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 13:46:06 EDT
Barons of DoS,
I feel inclined to speak up on this matter, having held a council seat twice in the past. First off, whomever said it's the honorable thing to step down, is incorrect.
Simply put, the council puts hours upon hours of time into resolving an issue which has two (usually two) people's lives held up as they wait for a decision from the coucil. If the council had any shot of resolving this issue prior to Wednesday, it would be self defeating to bring on another opinion. Except of course to those in hopes of swaying a newcomer.
Lady helix says and I quote:
<<In the past,
twas never questioned and considered "honorable" that the losin' baron
step away when a Council was in session, and that the victor of the
match step in to take what would be his or her rightful place.>>
The honorable thing to do would be to remain seated as long as there is hope of resolutions prior to standings being posted. It's my understanding that the issue should resolve today, so there is absolutely no reason to ask Kalamere to step down. The focus should be finding a agreeable resolution (majority), not more red tape. As for the victor (Damon) his rightful place is in the side wings until such time as the *RULES* SIZE=3>not the council nor the Supervisor, state otherwise. It is the councils purpose at times to look outside of the rules, but the rule of the council's seats is written, they should not be confused.
I feel the Supervisor's letter was not appropriate to post to the general public. Comparing Jeff who egged Huma into being pissed off (as he rightfully was) and then Huma acting like a horses hind-end and reciding his "word", to the likes of Kalamere who's likely put more *constructive* thought and hours into this sport than most anyone else, is unconsciable. Implying Kalamere acted dishonorably because of his decision to remain on
the council is inappropriate, discourteous and ludicrious. It is deserving of a public apology.
Sincerely,
Kaprielle d'Argent
Date: 20 Oct 1998 13:46:06 EDT
Barons of DoS,
I feel inclined to speak up on this matter, having held a council seat twice in the past. First off, whomever said it's the honorable thing to step down, is incorrect.
Simply put, the council puts hours upon hours of time into resolving an issue which has two (usually two) people's lives held up as they wait for a decision from the coucil. If the council had any shot of resolving this issue prior to Wednesday, it would be self defeating to bring on another opinion. Except of course to those in hopes of swaying a newcomer.
Lady helix says and I quote:
<<In the past,
twas never questioned and considered "honorable" that the losin' baron
step away when a Council was in session, and that the victor of the
match step in to take what would be his or her rightful place.>>
The honorable thing to do would be to remain seated as long as there is hope of resolutions prior to standings being posted. It's my understanding that the issue should resolve today, so there is absolutely no reason to ask Kalamere to step down. The focus should be finding a agreeable resolution (majority), not more red tape. As for the victor (Damon) his rightful place is in the side wings until such time as the *RULES* SIZE=3>not the council nor the Supervisor, state otherwise. It is the councils purpose at times to look outside of the rules, but the rule of the council's seats is written, they should not be confused.
I feel the Supervisor's letter was not appropriate to post to the general public. Comparing Jeff who egged Huma into being pissed off (as he rightfully was) and then Huma acting like a horses hind-end and reciding his "word", to the likes of Kalamere who's likely put more *constructive* thought and hours into this sport than most anyone else, is unconsciable. Implying Kalamere acted dishonorably because of his decision to remain on
the council is inappropriate, discourteous and ludicrious. It is deserving of a public apology.
Sincerely,
Kaprielle d'Argent
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From: rdihelix@aol.com (RDI Helix)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:19:15 EDT
~Ladies and Gentlemen,
Due to comments on my earlier statement, I feel that there is a need for a
bit of clarification. Apparently, I haven't made the intent behind my
words clear.
The purpose of the statement was not meant to attack Kalamere personally.
As anyone that has been around any length of time knows, the man has
certainly given of 'imself and 'is time with respect to this sport,
rather, it was to point out the differences in *thinkin' * between one
situation and the next.
If anyone took my words as me referin' to Kalamere as dishonorable, either
professionally or personally, then I'm afraid yer missin' the point. Twas
hoped, simply, that everyone might take a second look at the bigger
picture.
~Helix
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:19:15 EDT
~Ladies and Gentlemen,
Due to comments on my earlier statement, I feel that there is a need for a
bit of clarification. Apparently, I haven't made the intent behind my
words clear.
The purpose of the statement was not meant to attack Kalamere personally.
As anyone that has been around any length of time knows, the man has
certainly given of 'imself and 'is time with respect to this sport,
rather, it was to point out the differences in *thinkin' * between one
situation and the next.
If anyone took my words as me referin' to Kalamere as dishonorable, either
professionally or personally, then I'm afraid yer missin' the point. Twas
hoped, simply, that everyone might take a second look at the bigger
picture.
~Helix
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From: kaprielle@aol.com (Kaprielle)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:20:39 EDT
Barons,
I would add this.
I think instead of looking at past barons as stepping down, as having all done the honorable thing, you might consider these possibilities:
1. No interest in the matter, whether coucil or issue
2. Fear of being looked down upon, as the council members often are after a vote
3. Inability to make a sound decision, fence sitter
4. No time to actively take part in the matters.
To name a few. It's my opinion, most past baron's likely were delighted in not having to further participate in the sometimes exhausting proceedure. Honor seems to have no safe place in this matter, as it probably does not belong in any way.
Randomly thought,
Kaprielle
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:20:39 EDT
Barons,
I would add this.
I think instead of looking at past barons as stepping down, as having all done the honorable thing, you might consider these possibilities:
1. No interest in the matter, whether coucil or issue
2. Fear of being looked down upon, as the council members often are after a vote
3. Inability to make a sound decision, fence sitter
4. No time to actively take part in the matters.
To name a few. It's my opinion, most past baron's likely were delighted in not having to further participate in the sometimes exhausting proceedure. Honor seems to have no safe place in this matter, as it probably does not belong in any way.
Randomly thought,
Kaprielle
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From: morganfay@aol.com (MorganFay)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:29:28 EDT
>Twas
>hoped, simply, that everyone might take a second look at the bigger
>picture.
Just what is that bigger picture?
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:29:28 EDT
>Twas
>hoped, simply, that everyone might take a second look at the bigger
>picture.
Just what is that bigger picture?
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From: kaprielle@aol.com (Kaprielle)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:44:32 EDT
<<If anyone took my words as me referin' to Kalamere as dishonorable, either
professionally or personally, then I'm afraid yer missin' the point. Twas
hoped, simply, that everyone might take a second look at the bigger
picture.>>>
Lady Helix,
Seeing how everyone, including Kalamere has apparently missed your point, perhaps you could *again* make your point or draw us the big picture. I think a letter saying that a petition was turned down would have sufficed in this matter, your opinion had no place as to the current council's issue. Why you made an official post with your opinion of what amuses you about the current council issue is of concern to me.
I find your second letter no more appropriate than the first.
Kaprielle d'Argent
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:44:32 EDT
<<If anyone took my words as me referin' to Kalamere as dishonorable, either
professionally or personally, then I'm afraid yer missin' the point. Twas
hoped, simply, that everyone might take a second look at the bigger
picture.>>>
Lady Helix,
Seeing how everyone, including Kalamere has apparently missed your point, perhaps you could *again* make your point or draw us the big picture. I think a letter saying that a petition was turned down would have sufficed in this matter, your opinion had no place as to the current council's issue. Why you made an official post with your opinion of what amuses you about the current council issue is of concern to me.
I find your second letter no more appropriate than the first.
Kaprielle d'Argent
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From: girvin@aol.com (GIRVIN)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:46:16 EDT
"Just what is that bigger picture?" -Morgan
I cannot speak for Helix, but I will for myself.
I shall endeavor to use this quote and hope I do not misconstrue Kaprielle's meaning too badly.
"Honor seems to have no safe place in this matter, as it probably does not belong in any way." -Kaprielle
Yet *some* members of the council would punish Huma on honor.
I continue to wonder, does honor fit in all or none? Is it to be applied in one place but not in the other? If honor is not upheld with consistency then it is favoritism and a weapon of oppression.
All or nothing, honor requires the courage to rise above all and judge all by the same standard, not apply one standard for one and another for someone else. The entire argument of considering Huma's honor and enforcing an unwritten and inconsistent standard. Fairness applies to all or it applies to none. The problem in using honor as an excuse to bring the duel between Huma and Jeff to the council, is that as you all can see, is that every person
has a different thing that they consider honorable and each notion has varying degrees of what is most dishonorable and what is not. Without a set standard to judge by, punishing dishonorable acts is little more than declaring that one does not like one person, for each sees sin in a different manner. Just as with the overlord. Some consider his responsibility to DoS should go before all else, but is it not their right to feel that way? There is,
thank the heavens, no rule saying one cannot feel this way or that, but who am I to tell you that you must feel the way I do or be punished.
This is why the council should avoid calling Huma to question on honor, and that calls the process into question.
Constant,
~Brian Girvin
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Date: 20 Oct 1998 14:46:16 EDT
"Just what is that bigger picture?" -Morgan
I cannot speak for Helix, but I will for myself.
I shall endeavor to use this quote and hope I do not misconstrue Kaprielle's meaning too badly.
"Honor seems to have no safe place in this matter, as it probably does not belong in any way." -Kaprielle
Yet *some* members of the council would punish Huma on honor.
I continue to wonder, does honor fit in all or none? Is it to be applied in one place but not in the other? If honor is not upheld with consistency then it is favoritism and a weapon of oppression.
All or nothing, honor requires the courage to rise above all and judge all by the same standard, not apply one standard for one and another for someone else. The entire argument of considering Huma's honor and enforcing an unwritten and inconsistent standard. Fairness applies to all or it applies to none. The problem in using honor as an excuse to bring the duel between Huma and Jeff to the council, is that as you all can see, is that every person
has a different thing that they consider honorable and each notion has varying degrees of what is most dishonorable and what is not. Without a set standard to judge by, punishing dishonorable acts is little more than declaring that one does not like one person, for each sees sin in a different manner. Just as with the overlord. Some consider his responsibility to DoS should go before all else, but is it not their right to feel that way? There is,
thank the heavens, no rule saying one cannot feel this way or that, but who am I to tell you that you must feel the way I do or be punished.
This is why the council should avoid calling Huma to question on honor, and that calls the process into question.
Constant,
~Brian Girvin
© G Irvin 1998 all rights reserved
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From: kaprielle@aol.com (Kaprielle)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 15:37:46 EDT
<<<"Honor seems to have no safe place in this matter, as it probably does not belong in any way." -Kaprielle
Yet *some* members of the council would punish Huma on honor. - Girvin>>>
You totally missed my point Girvin. I was speaking *only* about honor being the excuse for a baron to step down when he/she loses their ring and the coucil is in session. Nothing else, no further point. I think Huma and honor is an oxymoron. I'll say no more on that subject as I am not on the council and
he and I basically co-exist, beyond that there is no communication.
My take is that most barons are relieved when they lose their ring during the council being in session. Time and again many barons have complained about it being annoying and taking too long among other reasons. They just want the hell out of being responsible. *Honor* has no place in that situation and before today, I've never heard anyone refer to it as such. Which I might add is just funny.
What the council deems appropriate behaviour while dissecting an issue at hand is totally and completely unrelated.
Kaprielle~
Date: 20 Oct 1998 15:37:46 EDT
<<<"Honor seems to have no safe place in this matter, as it probably does not belong in any way." -Kaprielle
Yet *some* members of the council would punish Huma on honor. - Girvin>>>
You totally missed my point Girvin. I was speaking *only* about honor being the excuse for a baron to step down when he/she loses their ring and the coucil is in session. Nothing else, no further point. I think Huma and honor is an oxymoron. I'll say no more on that subject as I am not on the council and
he and I basically co-exist, beyond that there is no communication.
My take is that most barons are relieved when they lose their ring during the council being in session. Time and again many barons have complained about it being annoying and taking too long among other reasons. They just want the hell out of being responsible. *Honor* has no place in that situation and before today, I've never heard anyone refer to it as such. Which I might add is just funny.
What the council deems appropriate behaviour while dissecting an issue at hand is totally and completely unrelated.
Kaprielle~
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From: aristotle@aol.com (Aristotle)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 17:52:55 EDT
Good gentles.
To a student of the history of this realm, this entire situation is ludicrous. Upon the disappearance of Ulath ni Fici, his ring was cast into abeyance. In a tournament shortly thereafter, Simini, seeking to gain a ring in order to champion ni Fici's cause, was defeated by Iain MacKenzie. MacKenzie, in turn, seated himself on the council and begane pleading Simini's case regarding the fate of ni Fici's ring when his position became official --
-- and was immediately attacked for having interjected himself into an ongoing discussion. At the time, there were loud cries stating that ONCE CONVENED, A COUNCIL SHOULD REMAIN INTACT UNTIL THE RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUE WHICH THEY WERE CALLED TO ADJUDICATE. Quite clearly, the intent at the time was that a new baron, taking office after the beginning of proceedings, should not be allowed to vote; and, concurrently, a sitting baron, removed, should
remain in place on the council until the judgement is discharged.
And now, Kalamere Ar'Din, one of the few remaining glints of light in this cesspool, is called into question for choosing to see the matter through, with the consent of the Baron who took his seat?
Preposterous. Shameful. Yet another blight on this realm, and another sign that the end is near.
With disgust,
Aristotle Andrews
Professor of History
University of Drury
Mairena
Date: 20 Oct 1998 17:52:55 EDT
Good gentles.
To a student of the history of this realm, this entire situation is ludicrous. Upon the disappearance of Ulath ni Fici, his ring was cast into abeyance. In a tournament shortly thereafter, Simini, seeking to gain a ring in order to champion ni Fici's cause, was defeated by Iain MacKenzie. MacKenzie, in turn, seated himself on the council and begane pleading Simini's case regarding the fate of ni Fici's ring when his position became official --
-- and was immediately attacked for having interjected himself into an ongoing discussion. At the time, there were loud cries stating that ONCE CONVENED, A COUNCIL SHOULD REMAIN INTACT UNTIL THE RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUE WHICH THEY WERE CALLED TO ADJUDICATE. Quite clearly, the intent at the time was that a new baron, taking office after the beginning of proceedings, should not be allowed to vote; and, concurrently, a sitting baron, removed, should
remain in place on the council until the judgement is discharged.
And now, Kalamere Ar'Din, one of the few remaining glints of light in this cesspool, is called into question for choosing to see the matter through, with the consent of the Baron who took his seat?
Preposterous. Shameful. Yet another blight on this realm, and another sign that the end is near.
With disgust,
Aristotle Andrews
Professor of History
University of Drury
Mairena
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From: prlunicorn@aol.com (PrlUnicorn)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 18:20:47 EDT
Unless I have once again misread this statement..
>>Today this office has received an official petition from a baron to
remove Kalamere from the Council. Excuse me whilst I get the facts
straight.<<
It was not Helix who has questioned Kal's honor, but some other party, a baron and member of the council, no less. I must wonder why. It is honorable or legal of THEM to make that request when the council is in midsession?
Perhaps that might be a part of said bigger picture.
Colleen Lasher
Date: 20 Oct 1998 18:20:47 EDT
Unless I have once again misread this statement..
>>Today this office has received an official petition from a baron to
remove Kalamere from the Council. Excuse me whilst I get the facts
straight.<<
It was not Helix who has questioned Kal's honor, but some other party, a baron and member of the council, no less. I must wonder why. It is honorable or legal of THEM to make that request when the council is in midsession?
Perhaps that might be a part of said bigger picture.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 20 Oct 1998 19:24:52 EDT
The commoner, sitting in the basement, blinks as Marcus dashes in, gasping and breathless. Lifting a brow she motions Marcus near, "Och, wee one wh' be thee upta." Marcus, a sheepish grin on his face, hangs his head, "I was eavesdropping, Ma'am." "Ye were, were ye, ye rascal an' wh' news?", Jona quirked a smile. Al and Hubie hurry over eager for the news. Marcus peers at Al and Hubie then at the commoner, "I'se heard that Helix lady
laughing, then the noise of something hitting the floor. I scooted away quick though, 'cause someone was comin'."
Nemo scampers in waving a copy of a note he found on the cork board. The serving kids make room as Nemo stumbles over a chair sending the note sailing. After a mad scramble, some grunts and a yowl from Marcus, he comes up with the note, waving it triumphantly. The commoner slips Marcus a copper, taking the note, then gives Nemo a wink, tossing him a silver. Nemo manages to catch the coin. Hubie grumbles, Al snickers. Nemo trudges back to
the kitchen. "Marcus, laddie, dinna let Edmond catch ye eavesdroppin', 'e'll dock yuir pay fer th' next month."
The commoner begins to calmly read, her sea blue eyes slowly taking on a colder arctic blue as she reads a missive from Kalamere to Lady Girvin. She snags a handy napkin and her quill, pausing to shoo Al and Hubie back to rake the ring sands. "Marcus, laddie, wouldst be so kind ast ta' fetch th' rules 'o engagement fer me?" A glance at the parchment, she nods, "Aye, tis there 'bout when a change 'o status ist ta' be official. An Ah do recall
M'lord Evermeadow makin' it mos' abundantly clear a while back, 'pon th' cork board. Ah wonder why Madame Helix wouldst e'en need ta' comment 'pon th' matter, let alone make anna reference attal ta' annaone's 'onor."
M'lord Kalamere,
Though thee and I have in past, and I would expect in future, shall, upon occasion, disagree upon certain matters, ne'er should I nor would I call into question thine honor, and must say I am appalled that anyone who hast e'en the barest acquaintance 'o thee wouldst e'en consider making such a scurrilous remark. Furthermore, for anyone who hast had the privilege of nae only knowing thee, but working closely with thee to do so ist nigh onto sheer
folly. I wast indeed present when the new Baron made his declaration of Neutrality and didst quite clearly hear his reasons for his stance.
I am certes I shall be corrected if I err, yet I dinna recall a single instance in all the years since the Nine were seated upon the First Council whereby a Baron, once unseated didst decline to relinquish his seat upon the council, in due and proper time whether the council was or was not in session. M'lord Evermeadow himself didst make it abundantly clear upon this very corkboard ast to when that proper time ist, a time I might add
that hast been written in the "Rules of Engagement" for many, many years and hast applied to every rank and title from Commoner to Overlord. I must wonder that that question e'en needed to be ruled upon by Madame Helix Girvin.
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The commoner pauses. lifting her quill, looking to the stairs. Shouts of "Extra, Extra, Read all about it!! Unknown Baron demands immediate ouster of Ar'din!! Paper mister??" are heard even above the din of rioting commoners outside the vast cavern. The woman, slips a coin to Marcus, "See ifn ye canst git a copy, laddie." In moments the eleven year old returns, disheveled, tattered paper in hand. The commoner quirks a brow reading
the headlines, picking up the information that some Baron demanded that the Supervisor of the Duels oust the Baron Kalamere, then takes up the quill, finishing the missive. "Humph, now some blighter be a thinkin' th' comes under Madame Girvin's purview ast well. Ye'd thin' annaone wh' ha' reached th' title 'o Baron wouldst ha' a modicum 'o wit an mayhap peruse th' infermation regardin' such a matter ast th' oustin' 'o a Baron, nae ta' mention
havin' th' courage ta' make th' demand ta' Kala's face an nae scuttlin' off ta' 'elix.
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M'lord Kalamere, nae only have thee served ast thrice Baron and twice Overlord of this hallowed and ancient sport, thou, if I am nae mistaken, didst aid in the conception of the Baron's council and didst indeed put pen to parchment ast the author of what might be presented unto them when the Council became an official body set to oversee matters, unique situations and circumstances outside the purview of the rules of engagement. Thine hast
been a voice of reason, honor and purpose ast wast displayed upon nae only that now infamous eve and upon the eve of thine own challenge, but ast well ast within the Council and within the community.
I add my own voice to that of Kaprielle d'Argent in requesting that Madame Helix, herself make her point ast to just what is "The bigger picture". Foresooth the Lady has a pen, and certes a voice, perhaps she would care to enlighten the community further upon her views.
Jona.
PS: Kala, laddie, methinks discovering the identity of the Baron that wouldst demand thine premature ouster might be an interesting pursuit, ye have nae entirely forgotten yuir early training I trust.
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The commoner tacks the note to the cork board.
Date: 20 Oct 1998 19:24:52 EDT
The commoner, sitting in the basement, blinks as Marcus dashes in, gasping and breathless. Lifting a brow she motions Marcus near, "Och, wee one wh' be thee upta." Marcus, a sheepish grin on his face, hangs his head, "I was eavesdropping, Ma'am." "Ye were, were ye, ye rascal an' wh' news?", Jona quirked a smile. Al and Hubie hurry over eager for the news. Marcus peers at Al and Hubie then at the commoner, "I'se heard that Helix lady
laughing, then the noise of something hitting the floor. I scooted away quick though, 'cause someone was comin'."
Nemo scampers in waving a copy of a note he found on the cork board. The serving kids make room as Nemo stumbles over a chair sending the note sailing. After a mad scramble, some grunts and a yowl from Marcus, he comes up with the note, waving it triumphantly. The commoner slips Marcus a copper, taking the note, then gives Nemo a wink, tossing him a silver. Nemo manages to catch the coin. Hubie grumbles, Al snickers. Nemo trudges back to
the kitchen. "Marcus, laddie, dinna let Edmond catch ye eavesdroppin', 'e'll dock yuir pay fer th' next month."
The commoner begins to calmly read, her sea blue eyes slowly taking on a colder arctic blue as she reads a missive from Kalamere to Lady Girvin. She snags a handy napkin and her quill, pausing to shoo Al and Hubie back to rake the ring sands. "Marcus, laddie, wouldst be so kind ast ta' fetch th' rules 'o engagement fer me?" A glance at the parchment, she nods, "Aye, tis there 'bout when a change 'o status ist ta' be official. An Ah do recall
M'lord Evermeadow makin' it mos' abundantly clear a while back, 'pon th' cork board. Ah wonder why Madame Helix wouldst e'en need ta' comment 'pon th' matter, let alone make anna reference attal ta' annaone's 'onor."
M'lord Kalamere,
Though thee and I have in past, and I would expect in future, shall, upon occasion, disagree upon certain matters, ne'er should I nor would I call into question thine honor, and must say I am appalled that anyone who hast e'en the barest acquaintance 'o thee wouldst e'en consider making such a scurrilous remark. Furthermore, for anyone who hast had the privilege of nae only knowing thee, but working closely with thee to do so ist nigh onto sheer
folly. I wast indeed present when the new Baron made his declaration of Neutrality and didst quite clearly hear his reasons for his stance.
I am certes I shall be corrected if I err, yet I dinna recall a single instance in all the years since the Nine were seated upon the First Council whereby a Baron, once unseated didst decline to relinquish his seat upon the council, in due and proper time whether the council was or was not in session. M'lord Evermeadow himself didst make it abundantly clear upon this very corkboard ast to when that proper time ist, a time I might add
that hast been written in the "Rules of Engagement" for many, many years and hast applied to every rank and title from Commoner to Overlord. I must wonder that that question e'en needed to be ruled upon by Madame Helix Girvin.
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The commoner pauses. lifting her quill, looking to the stairs. Shouts of "Extra, Extra, Read all about it!! Unknown Baron demands immediate ouster of Ar'din!! Paper mister??" are heard even above the din of rioting commoners outside the vast cavern. The woman, slips a coin to Marcus, "See ifn ye canst git a copy, laddie." In moments the eleven year old returns, disheveled, tattered paper in hand. The commoner quirks a brow reading
the headlines, picking up the information that some Baron demanded that the Supervisor of the Duels oust the Baron Kalamere, then takes up the quill, finishing the missive. "Humph, now some blighter be a thinkin' th' comes under Madame Girvin's purview ast well. Ye'd thin' annaone wh' ha' reached th' title 'o Baron wouldst ha' a modicum 'o wit an mayhap peruse th' infermation regardin' such a matter ast th' oustin' 'o a Baron, nae ta' mention
havin' th' courage ta' make th' demand ta' Kala's face an nae scuttlin' off ta' 'elix.
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M'lord Kalamere, nae only have thee served ast thrice Baron and twice Overlord of this hallowed and ancient sport, thou, if I am nae mistaken, didst aid in the conception of the Baron's council and didst indeed put pen to parchment ast the author of what might be presented unto them when the Council became an official body set to oversee matters, unique situations and circumstances outside the purview of the rules of engagement. Thine hast
been a voice of reason, honor and purpose ast wast displayed upon nae only that now infamous eve and upon the eve of thine own challenge, but ast well ast within the Council and within the community.
I add my own voice to that of Kaprielle d'Argent in requesting that Madame Helix, herself make her point ast to just what is "The bigger picture". Foresooth the Lady has a pen, and certes a voice, perhaps she would care to enlighten the community further upon her views.
Jona.
PS: Kala, laddie, methinks discovering the identity of the Baron that wouldst demand thine premature ouster might be an interesting pursuit, ye have nae entirely forgotten yuir early training I trust.
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The commoner tacks the note to the cork board.
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 21 Oct 1998 04:40:29 EDT
I honestly feel, though Kal and I disagree on many subjects with this forfeiture being debated, that Kal be allowed to remain in seat.
This will, in the future, mark some importance if it happens again. Granted, Kal's votes agreed with the majority on many matters (with the subject that was discussed), and though removing him will still allow the votes to pass, it may not be so simple in the future.
Say for example, the council's majority outweighs an option 7 to 5. The overseer would vote for the option with 5 votes (if it were tied). Should someone lose, and the new baron take over, the ratio could possibly be 6 to 6, if the new baron voted for the option. When a decision broken up in so many phases like the situation the council is discussing, a new vote could be a headache, by starting all over again.
It would be simple that a baron(ess) shall continue to perform his/her duties to the council after being dethroned, until the current discussion is complete. Afterwards, I feel the ex-baron(ess) has an obligation to step down. While the new baron(ess) may object (understandably so), it would be easier for most people in the future.
I hope I made sense, when trying to explain my position.
Simply,
Var Medici-Giovanni
±
|¯Proud father, proud husband¯|
|¯Holder of the Tenth Ring¯|
|¯Soul dedicated to Noelle¯|
|¯Devoted to his children¯|
Date: 21 Oct 1998 04:40:29 EDT
I honestly feel, though Kal and I disagree on many subjects with this forfeiture being debated, that Kal be allowed to remain in seat.
This will, in the future, mark some importance if it happens again. Granted, Kal's votes agreed with the majority on many matters (with the subject that was discussed), and though removing him will still allow the votes to pass, it may not be so simple in the future.
Say for example, the council's majority outweighs an option 7 to 5. The overseer would vote for the option with 5 votes (if it were tied). Should someone lose, and the new baron take over, the ratio could possibly be 6 to 6, if the new baron voted for the option. When a decision broken up in so many phases like the situation the council is discussing, a new vote could be a headache, by starting all over again.
It would be simple that a baron(ess) shall continue to perform his/her duties to the council after being dethroned, until the current discussion is complete. Afterwards, I feel the ex-baron(ess) has an obligation to step down. While the new baron(ess) may object (understandably so), it would be easier for most people in the future.
I hope I made sense, when trying to explain my position.
Simply,
Var Medici-Giovanni
±
|¯Proud father, proud husband¯|
|¯Holder of the Tenth Ring¯|
|¯Soul dedicated to Noelle¯|
|¯Devoted to his children¯|