From: ixdaelinxi@aol.com (IXDaelinXI)
Date: 20 Feb 1999 18:47:40 EST
Truly sir Rex?
That's quite amusing, seeing as I never said I blamed the Overlord..you picked that out yourself...self pity? Ahh..if that was the case would I stand here right now? I don't think so..but maybe you do..everyone's entitled ot their own opinions, you yours and me my own and the Overlord his own...but maybe you should think about what I *actually* said before you take up arms against me...Good day sir.
::shakes his head as he finishes writing then thinks about the returned Ian and says something quietly:: Hmm...he says I'm pitiful..hurling insults and such..really now, I thought he wanted to bring the honor back to the sport...::shakes his head once again::
::scrawled in blazing blue ink::
~Daelin Dragonsblade~
~Regent King of Dragonia~
~Member of House Dragoon-Talanador~
~Warlord and Once Baron of the Seventh~
Renegade Barons Magnus Eques and Huma DragonBane
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From: lorduziel@aol.com (Lord Uziel)
Date: 20 Feb 1999 18:52:03 EST
Daelin,
I'm more than slightly surprised at the sudden change in your countenance.
Yes I do not often hold with removing one alignment to return it to the same alignment. But my challenge was made to you when you were a Renegade....and the fact of Lord Eros' Overlordship after the fact and your turning the ring loyal was quite after the fact at that point.
You held, unfortunatly...a ring I consider my own. I held it once before, defeated one of the longest standing bearers of it in a perfect shut out match when they challenged me for the right to bear it. And I would be honored to do the same with any prior holders of the ring as well, should they see reason to contest my feeling of closeness with the Seventh.
Had you not borne the Seventh, I would have taken it from Damon Black with the same lack of emotion as well. Yes.....its not a wonderful thing to lose the title of Barony. But I had more than sufficient reason to come after the Seventh. You, unfortunatly just happened to hold it at the time.
If you feel a need to declare yourself no longer a friend of mine because I choose not to just blindly grope and grasp at any title I can get my hands on....and have decided to stay true to the one I have borne before. That is...of course your right.
I am of course, sadly surprised to see it.
I am,
~Adonai Uziel
~DragonLord of Rhydin
~Twice Baron of the Seventh
Date: 20 Feb 1999 18:52:03 EST
Daelin,
I'm more than slightly surprised at the sudden change in your countenance.
Yes I do not often hold with removing one alignment to return it to the same alignment. But my challenge was made to you when you were a Renegade....and the fact of Lord Eros' Overlordship after the fact and your turning the ring loyal was quite after the fact at that point.
You held, unfortunatly...a ring I consider my own. I held it once before, defeated one of the longest standing bearers of it in a perfect shut out match when they challenged me for the right to bear it. And I would be honored to do the same with any prior holders of the ring as well, should they see reason to contest my feeling of closeness with the Seventh.
Had you not borne the Seventh, I would have taken it from Damon Black with the same lack of emotion as well. Yes.....its not a wonderful thing to lose the title of Barony. But I had more than sufficient reason to come after the Seventh. You, unfortunatly just happened to hold it at the time.
If you feel a need to declare yourself no longer a friend of mine because I choose not to just blindly grope and grasp at any title I can get my hands on....and have decided to stay true to the one I have borne before. That is...of course your right.
I am of course, sadly surprised to see it.
I am,
~Adonai Uziel
~DragonLord of Rhydin
~Twice Baron of the Seventh
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From: prlunicorn@aol.com (PrlUnicorn)
Date: 20 Feb 1999 18:53:45 EST
Ian,
Apparently it's the old damned if you do, damned if you don't routine. Can't win either way, and someone will always be offended no matter how hard the person perceived to have committed the trespass tries not to do so.
Collie
Date: 20 Feb 1999 18:53:45 EST
Ian,
Apparently it's the old damned if you do, damned if you don't routine. Can't win either way, and someone will always be offended no matter how hard the person perceived to have committed the trespass tries not to do so.
Collie
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From: iainmacknz@aol.com (IainMacKnz)
Date: 20 Feb 1999 20:04:02 EST
Colleen:
"Apparently it's the old damned if you do, damned if you don't routine. Can't win either way, and someone will always be offended no matter how hard the person perceived to have committed the trespass tries not to do so."
Indeed, and I find it amusing that the child fails to grasp this.
Lord Dragonsblade:
"Sir Rex"? I thank you for the laugh. I have not had one so bountiful in some time. Any number of our Roman friends might explain my title to you.
Let me clarify for you why I feel your complaint against the Overlord is pathetic. It is quite simple; so simple that even bright children grasp it.
You are complaining, essentially, because the Overlord would not choose between friends. In a completely reasonable step of logic, this indicates that you indeed wished the Overlord to choose one friend over another. Mature individuals, lad, do not request this either of their friends, or of those they wish to call be called friend by. If you are of such weak emotional constitution that you must take umbrage over a person's - any person's -
refusal to display favoritism for one friend over another, that, sir, is your problem. Using is as fodder for public outcry at some "wrong" done you is, indeed, pathetic, and I challenge you to demonstrate to the public how pointing out something which is your problem is dishonorable - or even insulting.
As to you blaming the Overlord... what, then, would you call attempting to pass responsibility for your decision regarding how you feel about the man off on him, all because he didn't show you favoritism?
Ian Rex.
Date: 20 Feb 1999 20:04:02 EST
Colleen:
"Apparently it's the old damned if you do, damned if you don't routine. Can't win either way, and someone will always be offended no matter how hard the person perceived to have committed the trespass tries not to do so."
Indeed, and I find it amusing that the child fails to grasp this.
Lord Dragonsblade:
"Sir Rex"? I thank you for the laugh. I have not had one so bountiful in some time. Any number of our Roman friends might explain my title to you.
Let me clarify for you why I feel your complaint against the Overlord is pathetic. It is quite simple; so simple that even bright children grasp it.
You are complaining, essentially, because the Overlord would not choose between friends. In a completely reasonable step of logic, this indicates that you indeed wished the Overlord to choose one friend over another. Mature individuals, lad, do not request this either of their friends, or of those they wish to call be called friend by. If you are of such weak emotional constitution that you must take umbrage over a person's - any person's -
refusal to display favoritism for one friend over another, that, sir, is your problem. Using is as fodder for public outcry at some "wrong" done you is, indeed, pathetic, and I challenge you to demonstrate to the public how pointing out something which is your problem is dishonorable - or even insulting.
As to you blaming the Overlord... what, then, would you call attempting to pass responsibility for your decision regarding how you feel about the man off on him, all because he didn't show you favoritism?
Ian Rex.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 01:03:09 EST
Daelin Dragonsblade,
In this matter, I am in complete agreement with Ian. Thee were, after thine loss to Adonai Uziel, contemplating retirement, and we didst speak upon it. The matter of thine status as loyal or renegade in thine stance unto Eros Hunrai Marzanhe DeBurgo nae withstanding, yet I understood thine disappoint in thine loss. Tis ast Ian hast already commented, thee aire complaining that the Overlord chose nae to side with one friend agin another.
Further, thee hae, wittingly or unwittingly, slighted the former holder of the Fifth, Eighth and Nineth Rings, Ian MacKenzie. Tis thee thineself didst hold the Seventh Ring, yet seemingly hae nae e'en taken the time to peruse the histories or e'en other missives upon this cork which would hae identified him unto thee.
Ast to thine comments with regard to Adonai Uziel, indeed, Adonai behaved much like a petulant, bored child, placing a request, couched more ast a dare, to the community of warlords to challenge him, and in less than a fortnight, in proclaimed boredom, he didst issue challenge unto Dalamar ArD'aumon. Tis truly disappointing to read thine missive for tis I hae thought better of thee, Daelin.
I do notice in Adonai's missive upon this cork he comments upon about shutting out one of the longest standing bearers of the Seventh Ring, she being Ellisa Morgan. I do notice ast well he hae conveniently nae mentioned he wast bested for the Seventh by Perrinis Alabaster in a shut out match.
I also do quite clearly recall that Adonai didst offer deadly insult unto Moralitor the Black, holder of the Seventh afore him ast well ast unto Lord Valmion of Questrion. He didst also threaten after the match to again seek to destroy Questrion, house and realm. Indeed, from almost the first moment that Adonai didst seek to gain the Seventh Ring he cast insults upon this community collectively ast well ast upon various individuals, both upon
the cork and within the dueling house. Tis notable ast well that Adonai follows in the same vein ast Huma Dragonbane in claiming the Seventh Ring is "his". Tis also notable that he states had nae thee held the Seventh he would hae taken it from Damon Black, claiming he wouldst do so with the same lack of emotion. One needs must only peruse his jottings upon this corkboard to discover precisely the manner of personage which be Adonai Uziel. He
would hae the gullible believe that many of the "Age of Heros" do respect him, when, in fact most of those personage hae nae lain eyes upon him.
I noticed in his jottings his claim that t'was a "former" friend what urged his "return" to the community. Thee shall note tis he didst state "former". Tis the Seventh Ring ist most sadly fallen, and thee now tarnish thineself, a former bearer of that Ring, with thine statements, Daelin Dragonsblade. The wheel shall turn, Daelin Dragonsblade. I canst only hope thee shall contemplate further upon the matter and come to some remedy and nae
follow in the path thee hae begun.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 21 Feb 1999 01:03:09 EST
Daelin Dragonsblade,
In this matter, I am in complete agreement with Ian. Thee were, after thine loss to Adonai Uziel, contemplating retirement, and we didst speak upon it. The matter of thine status as loyal or renegade in thine stance unto Eros Hunrai Marzanhe DeBurgo nae withstanding, yet I understood thine disappoint in thine loss. Tis ast Ian hast already commented, thee aire complaining that the Overlord chose nae to side with one friend agin another.
Further, thee hae, wittingly or unwittingly, slighted the former holder of the Fifth, Eighth and Nineth Rings, Ian MacKenzie. Tis thee thineself didst hold the Seventh Ring, yet seemingly hae nae e'en taken the time to peruse the histories or e'en other missives upon this cork which would hae identified him unto thee.
Ast to thine comments with regard to Adonai Uziel, indeed, Adonai behaved much like a petulant, bored child, placing a request, couched more ast a dare, to the community of warlords to challenge him, and in less than a fortnight, in proclaimed boredom, he didst issue challenge unto Dalamar ArD'aumon. Tis truly disappointing to read thine missive for tis I hae thought better of thee, Daelin.
I do notice in Adonai's missive upon this cork he comments upon about shutting out one of the longest standing bearers of the Seventh Ring, she being Ellisa Morgan. I do notice ast well he hae conveniently nae mentioned he wast bested for the Seventh by Perrinis Alabaster in a shut out match.
I also do quite clearly recall that Adonai didst offer deadly insult unto Moralitor the Black, holder of the Seventh afore him ast well ast unto Lord Valmion of Questrion. He didst also threaten after the match to again seek to destroy Questrion, house and realm. Indeed, from almost the first moment that Adonai didst seek to gain the Seventh Ring he cast insults upon this community collectively ast well ast upon various individuals, both upon
the cork and within the dueling house. Tis notable ast well that Adonai follows in the same vein ast Huma Dragonbane in claiming the Seventh Ring is "his". Tis also notable that he states had nae thee held the Seventh he would hae taken it from Damon Black, claiming he wouldst do so with the same lack of emotion. One needs must only peruse his jottings upon this corkboard to discover precisely the manner of personage which be Adonai Uziel. He
would hae the gullible believe that many of the "Age of Heros" do respect him, when, in fact most of those personage hae nae lain eyes upon him.
I noticed in his jottings his claim that t'was a "former" friend what urged his "return" to the community. Thee shall note tis he didst state "former". Tis the Seventh Ring ist most sadly fallen, and thee now tarnish thineself, a former bearer of that Ring, with thine statements, Daelin Dragonsblade. The wheel shall turn, Daelin Dragonsblade. I canst only hope thee shall contemplate further upon the matter and come to some remedy and nae
follow in the path thee hae begun.
Jonalyn Starfare
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From: ixdaelinxi@aol.com (IXDaelinXI)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 15:19:38 EST
Trust I have m'lady Starfare and myself and Sir Ian have resolved the matter in which you speak that I slighted him..However, what Adonai has done in the past is in the past..I would like to think he wants to forget about it and move on, maybe in fact he wants to try a different approach..the only thing I disagree with him about now is the Seventh being "his", The ring belongs to this sport..I would be a liar if I said
the ring in itself meant nothing to me the whole time I had it, or the title meant almost as much or that I dinnae want to try for them again..however; they are but physical symbols of the long trial that I had to endure, physically, mentally and spiritually to come by them...In short, the Barony to me meant nothing of politics or power..it was the sport I craved to gain it and that same spirit of the sport is what I suspect will drive me in the
future..
::Scrawled in blazing blue ink::
~Daelin Dragonsblade~
~Regent King of Dragonia~
~Member of House Dragoon-Talanador~
~Warlord and Once Baron of the Seventh~
Date: 21 Feb 1999 15:19:38 EST
Trust I have m'lady Starfare and myself and Sir Ian have resolved the matter in which you speak that I slighted him..However, what Adonai has done in the past is in the past..I would like to think he wants to forget about it and move on, maybe in fact he wants to try a different approach..the only thing I disagree with him about now is the Seventh being "his", The ring belongs to this sport..I would be a liar if I said
the ring in itself meant nothing to me the whole time I had it, or the title meant almost as much or that I dinnae want to try for them again..however; they are but physical symbols of the long trial that I had to endure, physically, mentally and spiritually to come by them...In short, the Barony to me meant nothing of politics or power..it was the sport I craved to gain it and that same spirit of the sport is what I suspect will drive me in the
future..
::Scrawled in blazing blue ink::
~Daelin Dragonsblade~
~Regent King of Dragonia~
~Member of House Dragoon-Talanador~
~Warlord and Once Baron of the Seventh~
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From: rhidbrock@aol.com (RhiDBrock)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 16:31:58 EST
The five year old reads Ian's words "Let me clarify for you why I feel your complaint against the Overlord is pathetic. It is quite simple; so simple that even bright children grasp it." and nods.
Mr. MacKenzie,
I got the idea of what you mean. It's not fair to ask someone to chose between friends.
I guess that makes me one of the bright children. It makes me angry sometimes when people tell growed ups that behave bad that they are childish. I try to behave good, but I'm still a little girl, so does that mean good bhavior from a kid is childish too? Somehow that makes no sense, but it sounds right.
Rspectfly,
Rhiannon Dawn Brock
Date: 21 Feb 1999 16:31:58 EST
The five year old reads Ian's words "Let me clarify for you why I feel your complaint against the Overlord is pathetic. It is quite simple; so simple that even bright children grasp it." and nods.
Mr. MacKenzie,
I got the idea of what you mean. It's not fair to ask someone to chose between friends.
I guess that makes me one of the bright children. It makes me angry sometimes when people tell growed ups that behave bad that they are childish. I try to behave good, but I'm still a little girl, so does that mean good bhavior from a kid is childish too? Somehow that makes no sense, but it sounds right.
Rspectfly,
Rhiannon Dawn Brock
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From: iainmacknz@aol.com (IainMacKnz)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 16:41:54 EST
Mistress Brock:
Yes, good behavior from children can be childish; it can also be very mature. It depends on the situation. Understand that we grown-ups expect certain behaviors from children, and what would be acceptable - perhaps even endearing - from a young one is inappropriate for a grown-up.
Ian Rex.
Date: 21 Feb 1999 16:41:54 EST
Mistress Brock:
Yes, good behavior from children can be childish; it can also be very mature. It depends on the situation. Understand that we grown-ups expect certain behaviors from children, and what would be acceptable - perhaps even endearing - from a young one is inappropriate for a grown-up.
Ian Rex.
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 19:25:22 EST
Rhi
Lassie, whate'er ye do, dinna throw up on Ian's boots.
Jona
Dashes away hoping to get out of range of Ian's glower.
Date: 21 Feb 1999 19:25:22 EST
Rhi
Lassie, whate'er ye do, dinna throw up on Ian's boots.
Jona
Dashes away hoping to get out of range of Ian's glower.