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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 07 Jul 1999 20:41:08 EDT
Gentles,
Tis nae that the matter of Madame Jaycynda Ashleana's challenge wast in the realm of 'interpreting' conflicting passages in the written rules 'o engagement. The matter wast the blatant setting aside by Madame Helix Girvin of the written rules 'o engagment.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont, the matter of Ecore's improper challenge wast overlooked by the official whose duty it was to adjudicate the matter. Once the circumstances were brought to the fore the matter wast given unto the Council. I shall remind thee that the matter wast sent unto the Council following the duel in question.
Further, Your Grace, the official whose duty it wast to make the decision in the matter of Madame Ashleana's challenge did make the decision declaring the challenge invalid.
T'was overridden by Madame Helix Girvin, improperly. Shall we hold then that valid decisions may be unilaterally set aside whilst invalid ones may nae be set aside? An interesting premise.
One must ponder this, gentles. Nay in the history of these rings hae the Supervisor unilaterally set aside the written rules of engagement. Wherefore shouldst Madame Helix's wrongful decision be upheld? Wouldst thee then hold that such wrongful decisions be given the grace of 'right' in that they shall nae be questioned? Fie, cowards stand silent whilst anarchy ist a'bornin'.
Jona
Pausing she peruses the ramblings of the delusional one. It is all she can do not to laugh outright at the convoluted weavings of that crazed mind. She adds a small post script, chortling softly.
PS: Tis positively amusing that one what claims celestial grace wouldst hold with deceit, deception and corruption e'en unto holding that anna means to hold anna title be held 'in grace'. Tis perhaps one that ist a charter member of the hordes of 'ell wouldst do such.
Date: 07 Jul 1999 20:41:08 EDT
Gentles,
Tis nae that the matter of Madame Jaycynda Ashleana's challenge wast in the realm of 'interpreting' conflicting passages in the written rules 'o engagement. The matter wast the blatant setting aside by Madame Helix Girvin of the written rules 'o engagment.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont, the matter of Ecore's improper challenge wast overlooked by the official whose duty it was to adjudicate the matter. Once the circumstances were brought to the fore the matter wast given unto the Council. I shall remind thee that the matter wast sent unto the Council following the duel in question.
Further, Your Grace, the official whose duty it wast to make the decision in the matter of Madame Ashleana's challenge did make the decision declaring the challenge invalid.
T'was overridden by Madame Helix Girvin, improperly. Shall we hold then that valid decisions may be unilaterally set aside whilst invalid ones may nae be set aside? An interesting premise.
One must ponder this, gentles. Nay in the history of these rings hae the Supervisor unilaterally set aside the written rules of engagement. Wherefore shouldst Madame Helix's wrongful decision be upheld? Wouldst thee then hold that such wrongful decisions be given the grace of 'right' in that they shall nae be questioned? Fie, cowards stand silent whilst anarchy ist a'bornin'.
Jona
Pausing she peruses the ramblings of the delusional one. It is all she can do not to laugh outright at the convoluted weavings of that crazed mind. She adds a small post script, chortling softly.
PS: Tis positively amusing that one what claims celestial grace wouldst hold with deceit, deception and corruption e'en unto holding that anna means to hold anna title be held 'in grace'. Tis perhaps one that ist a charter member of the hordes of 'ell wouldst do such.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 01:38:51 EDT
>>Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont, the matter of Ecore's improper challenge wast overlooked by the official whose duty it was to adjudicate the matter. Once the circumstances were brought to the fore the matter wast given unto the Council. I shall remind thee that the matter wast sent unto the Council following the duel in question.<<
It should not have been given to the Council at all. Period. It was Lord Evermeadow's responsibility as Supervisor and by handing the matter over to the Council he abdicated that responsibility in an inappropriate manner, in my opinion. But, as I stated, the decision was made and it stands as is. I am not trying to get anyone to change a Supervisor's decision because I personally disagree with it.
The whole notion of trying to change a Supervisor's decision because some of us disagree with it personally is ridiculous. Why even have a Supervisor, otherwise? Golden, in my opinion, made the wrong decision. Yet he made it, and it stands.
As for Helix's decision regarding Jaycy, I believe we have already argued this one out. Nearly everyone in the Arena argued that one out, I believe. I know all the facts, including the ones that some people chose to ignore. I don't see any reason for others to argue the case again.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
Date: 08 Jul 1999 01:38:51 EDT
>>Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont, the matter of Ecore's improper challenge wast overlooked by the official whose duty it was to adjudicate the matter. Once the circumstances were brought to the fore the matter wast given unto the Council. I shall remind thee that the matter wast sent unto the Council following the duel in question.<<
It should not have been given to the Council at all. Period. It was Lord Evermeadow's responsibility as Supervisor and by handing the matter over to the Council he abdicated that responsibility in an inappropriate manner, in my opinion. But, as I stated, the decision was made and it stands as is. I am not trying to get anyone to change a Supervisor's decision because I personally disagree with it.
The whole notion of trying to change a Supervisor's decision because some of us disagree with it personally is ridiculous. Why even have a Supervisor, otherwise? Golden, in my opinion, made the wrong decision. Yet he made it, and it stands.
As for Helix's decision regarding Jaycy, I believe we have already argued this one out. Nearly everyone in the Arena argued that one out, I believe. I know all the facts, including the ones that some people chose to ignore. I don't see any reason for others to argue the case again.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
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From: eagleecore@aol.com (EagleEcore)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 06:02:57 EDT
Yeah, I screwed up, and even though I wasn't happy about it I owed up to it. Yeah, I would like to still be wearing the Seventh, but I am not and I know I should not. Even, Daelin, who lost a match that was thought to be a challenge match owes up to a certain reality that something must be done. He has asked to be tested.
While those like Jaycynda sit on their laurels, and even worse sit on a lousy record. She sits on her title not particpating as much as others because she know her reign is tainted. People ask why I wish to become Baron.
It's because I simply wish to destroy the Council. In a way like it would be asking the doctor to let your mother die for betterment of herself more than all.
~Ecore~
~Praetor of the Dragon Templar~
~Thrice Baron of Swords, 2nd Highest WoLs Warlord of Swords~
Date: 08 Jul 1999 06:02:57 EDT
Yeah, I screwed up, and even though I wasn't happy about it I owed up to it. Yeah, I would like to still be wearing the Seventh, but I am not and I know I should not. Even, Daelin, who lost a match that was thought to be a challenge match owes up to a certain reality that something must be done. He has asked to be tested.
While those like Jaycynda sit on their laurels, and even worse sit on a lousy record. She sits on her title not particpating as much as others because she know her reign is tainted. People ask why I wish to become Baron.
It's because I simply wish to destroy the Council. In a way like it would be asking the doctor to let your mother die for betterment of herself more than all.
~Ecore~
~Praetor of the Dragon Templar~
~Thrice Baron of Swords, 2nd Highest WoLs Warlord of Swords~
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 13:42:27 EDT
>>While those like Jaycynda sit on their laurels, and even worse sit on a lousy record. She sits on her title not particpating as much as others because she know her reign is tainted. People ask why I wish to become Baron.<<
Ecore,
Jaycy not participating as much as others and sitting on her title? Until her recent misfortunes, she was one of the Barons more active in the community. Of her recent misfortunes I can only say that were I kidnapped and held as a slave, I might be a little less active too. As would you, I am sure. I know that I would be occupied trying to escape my captivity, which might take up so much of my energy and effort that getting to the Arena might have
to wait until I was free again.
Of course, that is just me. If you believe that we should punish her for being kidnapped than, by all means, argue the point strenuously. I look forward to hearing the points you choose to stress to prove your thesis.
As for her lousy record, I believe she has been challenged a few times by people who objected. I believe she won all of those defenses. I also understand that she has no wish to forfeit a ring that has never been resigned or forfeited before. She seems to thinks that such a forfeiture would somehow sully the ring's honor. How silly of her.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
Date: 08 Jul 1999 13:42:27 EDT
>>While those like Jaycynda sit on their laurels, and even worse sit on a lousy record. She sits on her title not particpating as much as others because she know her reign is tainted. People ask why I wish to become Baron.<<
Ecore,
Jaycy not participating as much as others and sitting on her title? Until her recent misfortunes, she was one of the Barons more active in the community. Of her recent misfortunes I can only say that were I kidnapped and held as a slave, I might be a little less active too. As would you, I am sure. I know that I would be occupied trying to escape my captivity, which might take up so much of my energy and effort that getting to the Arena might have
to wait until I was free again.
Of course, that is just me. If you believe that we should punish her for being kidnapped than, by all means, argue the point strenuously. I look forward to hearing the points you choose to stress to prove your thesis.
As for her lousy record, I believe she has been challenged a few times by people who objected. I believe she won all of those defenses. I also understand that she has no wish to forfeit a ring that has never been resigned or forfeited before. She seems to thinks that such a forfeiture would somehow sully the ring's honor. How silly of her.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 15:00:19 EDT
Myself, I just find it humorous that Elijah can still stand on his soapbox and attempt to crucify others, in light of his recent boneheaded disgrace, and the way he handled said disgrace.
Anyone else?
Cassius Gaius Maximius
Laylla's husband.
Roman pretorian
Warlord in DoS
Former Baron of the Sixth
Mage in DoM
Member of HDT
The Llama-ask Huma
"I am an honorable man, but to duel me is not a pleasant experience, if only for the pain"
Date: 08 Jul 1999 15:00:19 EDT
Myself, I just find it humorous that Elijah can still stand on his soapbox and attempt to crucify others, in light of his recent boneheaded disgrace, and the way he handled said disgrace.
Anyone else?
Cassius Gaius Maximius
Laylla's husband.
Roman pretorian
Warlord in DoS
Former Baron of the Sixth
Mage in DoM
Member of HDT
The Llama-ask Huma
"I am an honorable man, but to duel me is not a pleasant experience, if only for the pain"
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From: morganfay@aol.com (MorganFay)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:56:22 EDT
"Or people like MorganFay who only show up for Tourneys and get a prize until they lose their first challenge."
You were stupid enough to make the charge, now prove it. Show me where there is no trace of me being in the realm, no presence on the boards, nor in the arena except to show up for tourneys.
Fact is, "Ecore", you cannot prove it. Number one, you are not even around long enough to witness anyone's attendance/dueling status first hand (your crises du quart seem to hamper your chances to observe with any real regularity); number two, you cannot even take the time to read the boards to catch up on what you have missed before making such ridiculous claims.
But even knowing you cannot prove it, you will be too stubborn to admit how utterly ignorant you are. Before spouting off, have you ever stopped to think if you can actually back up the garbage that comes out of your mouth/writing implement?
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:56:22 EDT
"Or people like MorganFay who only show up for Tourneys and get a prize until they lose their first challenge."
You were stupid enough to make the charge, now prove it. Show me where there is no trace of me being in the realm, no presence on the boards, nor in the arena except to show up for tourneys.
Fact is, "Ecore", you cannot prove it. Number one, you are not even around long enough to witness anyone's attendance/dueling status first hand (your crises du quart seem to hamper your chances to observe with any real regularity); number two, you cannot even take the time to read the boards to catch up on what you have missed before making such ridiculous claims.
But even knowing you cannot prove it, you will be too stubborn to admit how utterly ignorant you are. Before spouting off, have you ever stopped to think if you can actually back up the garbage that comes out of your mouth/writing implement?
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From: sartanz@aol.com (Sartan Z)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 17:45:25 EDT
"Or people like MorganFay who only show up for Tourneys and get a prize until they lose their first challenge."
Unless I'm mistaken, you have never defended a Baron's Ring either, have you Ecore?
Curious,
Sartan
Date: 08 Jul 1999 17:45:25 EDT
"Or people like MorganFay who only show up for Tourneys and get a prize until they lose their first challenge."
Unless I'm mistaken, you have never defended a Baron's Ring either, have you Ecore?
Curious,
Sartan
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:23:50 EDT
::grins slightly reading upon Morgan's note. Laughing as he walks away, shaking his head:: Some woman...
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:23:50 EDT
::grins slightly reading upon Morgan's note. Laughing as he walks away, shaking his head:: Some woman...
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From: khrystawlf@aol.com (KhrystaWlf)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:24:10 EDT
As a side note, Morgan has defended one of the rings she has held, and defended successfully. More than simply successfully. She not only won the challenge, she won it as a shut out. I should know. I was the officiating RDI.
Khrys
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:24:10 EDT
As a side note, Morgan has defended one of the rings she has held, and defended successfully. More than simply successfully. She not only won the challenge, she won it as a shut out. I should know. I was the officiating RDI.
Khrys
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From: eagleecore@aol.com (EagleEcore)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:59:54 EDT
Sartan.
Your correct.
Cas.
I'll still talk whatever I want to talk about and how I want to talk about it, if you don't want to hear it you don't have to listen to it.
Morgana,
Whatever, I never said anything to those extremes that your taking it. Perhaps, if you weren't so defensive and didn't look at everything I say as going for the throat then you wouldn't find what I am saying so harsh. Personally, I don't care if your panties are in a wad about what I say, have a nice day.
Everyone else,
I don't care what I do and who it effects around here. I come here to duel and do what I want and how I want to. If it doesn't work or no one likes it, I don't care. Deal with it, or as others do, try to stop me. I am starting a war now folks, so let's enjoy the ride shall we?
~Ecore~
~Praetor of the Dragon Templar~
~Thrice Baron of Swords, 2nd Highest WoLs Warlord of Swords~
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:59:54 EDT
Sartan.
Your correct.
Cas.
I'll still talk whatever I want to talk about and how I want to talk about it, if you don't want to hear it you don't have to listen to it.
Morgana,
Whatever, I never said anything to those extremes that your taking it. Perhaps, if you weren't so defensive and didn't look at everything I say as going for the throat then you wouldn't find what I am saying so harsh. Personally, I don't care if your panties are in a wad about what I say, have a nice day.
Everyone else,
I don't care what I do and who it effects around here. I come here to duel and do what I want and how I want to. If it doesn't work or no one likes it, I don't care. Deal with it, or as others do, try to stop me. I am starting a war now folks, so let's enjoy the ride shall we?
~Ecore~
~Praetor of the Dragon Templar~
~Thrice Baron of Swords, 2nd Highest WoLs Warlord of Swords~
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 19:04:30 EDT
Percival
Madame Ashleana hast been able to wander rather freely for she herself hae placed a missive 'pon this cork. Methinks her bondage sits lightly upon her. Her reign ist tainted, she be an abject coward, ast well ast a deceitful, dishonorable wench. Verra rarely dost she show her face in the basement, and this e'en afore her purported kidnapping.
Speak ast thee may, Your Grace, Madame Jaycynda Ashleana holds her ring by deceit, lies, deceptions and dost so through the direct and improper intervention of the previous Supervisor, Madame Helix Girvin.
Were thee to shout unto the rooftops elsewise, that be the end all be all of the circumstances. Ist the community to be so cowardly ast to nae call for the righting of a grievous stain upon the honor of the Rings? Wherein dost Madame Ashleana set herself above the 'law'? Whyfore shouldst nae a decision fraught with error be overturned? Tis indeed, nae all be equal within the rings, yet within the 'law' all shouldst be upon equal footing. If tis
nae held so, then there ist nae honor nor canst one expect to foster honor within these ancient halls.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 08 Jul 1999 19:04:30 EDT
Percival
Madame Ashleana hast been able to wander rather freely for she herself hae placed a missive 'pon this cork. Methinks her bondage sits lightly upon her. Her reign ist tainted, she be an abject coward, ast well ast a deceitful, dishonorable wench. Verra rarely dost she show her face in the basement, and this e'en afore her purported kidnapping.
Speak ast thee may, Your Grace, Madame Jaycynda Ashleana holds her ring by deceit, lies, deceptions and dost so through the direct and improper intervention of the previous Supervisor, Madame Helix Girvin.
Were thee to shout unto the rooftops elsewise, that be the end all be all of the circumstances. Ist the community to be so cowardly ast to nae call for the righting of a grievous stain upon the honor of the Rings? Wherein dost Madame Ashleana set herself above the 'law'? Whyfore shouldst nae a decision fraught with error be overturned? Tis indeed, nae all be equal within the rings, yet within the 'law' all shouldst be upon equal footing. If tis
nae held so, then there ist nae honor nor canst one expect to foster honor within these ancient halls.
Jonalyn Starfare
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From: morganfay@aol.com (MorganFay)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 19:26:14 EDT
"Whatever, I never said anything to those extremes that your taking it."
Are you blind as well as dumb that you cannot reread what you posted upon these boards? Are you as delusional as Ms. Butter Knife?
You are like an untrained puppy who does not understand why he keeps getting his nose repeatedly rubbed in the messes he makes.
I take that back; puppies learn eventually, you do not.
Date: 08 Jul 1999 19:26:14 EDT
"Whatever, I never said anything to those extremes that your taking it."
Are you blind as well as dumb that you cannot reread what you posted upon these boards? Are you as delusional as Ms. Butter Knife?
You are like an untrained puppy who does not understand why he keeps getting his nose repeatedly rubbed in the messes he makes.
I take that back; puppies learn eventually, you do not.
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 20:43:20 EDT
Fellow patrons~
I believe all can remember the hell put upon myself, Jola Savage and Jaycynda by the foul Khan Jorah. Even with injuries making her unable to walk for more than a week or to speak for even longer, she managed to be a part of this community as much as anyone else. Her valor in the face of such evil that would haunt us and during the attack that caused her injuries shows that she is no "abject coward".
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 08 Jul 1999 20:43:20 EDT
Fellow patrons~
I believe all can remember the hell put upon myself, Jola Savage and Jaycynda by the foul Khan Jorah. Even with injuries making her unable to walk for more than a week or to speak for even longer, she managed to be a part of this community as much as anyone else. Her valor in the face of such evil that would haunt us and during the attack that caused her injuries shows that she is no "abject coward".
~Sidartha Elgarette
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From: agrenish@aol.com (Agrenish)
Date: 08 Jul 1999 21:05:21 EDT
>>Madame Ashleana hast been able to wander rather freely for she herself hae placed a missive 'pon this cork. Methinks her bondage sits lightly upon her. Her reign ist tainted, she be an abject coward, ast well ast a deceitful, dishonorable wench. Verra rarely dost she show her face in the basement, and this e'en afore her purported kidnapping.<<
Yeah, except for the fact that she's not allowed to wield a weapon or allowed to do anything against her master's wishes and has some sort of mechanical device on her which basically shocks her whenever she doesn't behave... yeah, cowardence, that's it Jony Baby.
>>Speak ast thee may, Your Grace, Madame Jaycynda Ashleana holds her ring by deceit, lies, deceptions and dost so through the direct and improper intervention of the previous Supervisor, Madame Helix Girvin.
<<
Boy you're a crybaby.
You sound like one of those puritans. You guys know who the puritains are? They're this group of moral based society of moral attackers. They burn witches they couldn't prove ever had any magical powers and put letters on women who had sex outside of marrige and had little bellboys who's job was to humilate her in public... they were also misrable beings who secrately hated their lives.
They were a big group of crybabys.
I read in this one book, the entire village of puritians were attacked by Indians, and damn was it funny. I pictured Jony Baby as one of the ladys who got shot in the leg with an arrow and sat there crying for help while the rest of the town was in chaos.
I can't remember if I pictured her getting scalped or if the Indians just pushed her back to the ground and called her Buffilo Droppings. It was something along those lines.
Fake Gods, if you ever curse me with a brat, and they cry like Jony Baby here, I swear to you at the age of three, I'm going to say "No More Crying, at all, understand?" and if they cry over something stupid, like what Jony Baby here is doing... WHAK!
As for the rest of you saps,
I wasn't paying attention... sorry.
Agrenish Preescott
~It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at him~
Date: 08 Jul 1999 21:05:21 EDT
>>Madame Ashleana hast been able to wander rather freely for she herself hae placed a missive 'pon this cork. Methinks her bondage sits lightly upon her. Her reign ist tainted, she be an abject coward, ast well ast a deceitful, dishonorable wench. Verra rarely dost she show her face in the basement, and this e'en afore her purported kidnapping.<<
Yeah, except for the fact that she's not allowed to wield a weapon or allowed to do anything against her master's wishes and has some sort of mechanical device on her which basically shocks her whenever she doesn't behave... yeah, cowardence, that's it Jony Baby.
>>Speak ast thee may, Your Grace, Madame Jaycynda Ashleana holds her ring by deceit, lies, deceptions and dost so through the direct and improper intervention of the previous Supervisor, Madame Helix Girvin.
<<
Boy you're a crybaby.
You sound like one of those puritans. You guys know who the puritains are? They're this group of moral based society of moral attackers. They burn witches they couldn't prove ever had any magical powers and put letters on women who had sex outside of marrige and had little bellboys who's job was to humilate her in public... they were also misrable beings who secrately hated their lives.
They were a big group of crybabys.
I read in this one book, the entire village of puritians were attacked by Indians, and damn was it funny. I pictured Jony Baby as one of the ladys who got shot in the leg with an arrow and sat there crying for help while the rest of the town was in chaos.
I can't remember if I pictured her getting scalped or if the Indians just pushed her back to the ground and called her Buffilo Droppings. It was something along those lines.
Fake Gods, if you ever curse me with a brat, and they cry like Jony Baby here, I swear to you at the age of three, I'm going to say "No More Crying, at all, understand?" and if they cry over something stupid, like what Jony Baby here is doing... WHAK!
As for the rest of you saps,
I wasn't paying attention... sorry.
Agrenish Preescott
~It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at him~
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From: methous45@aol.com (Methous45)
Date: 09 Jul 1999 08:36:15 EDT
>"Or people like MorganFay who only show up for Tourneys and get a prize until
>they lose their first challenge."
>
>You were stupid enough to make the charge, now prove it. Show me where there
>is no trace of me being in the realm, no presence on the boards, nor in the
>arena except to show up for tourneys.
>
>Fact is, "Ecore", you cannot prove it. Number one, you are not even around
>long enough to witness anyone's attendance/dueling status first hand (your
>crises du quart seem to hamper your chances to observe with any real
>regularity); number two, you cannot even take the time to read the boards to
>catch up on what you have missed before making such ridiculous claims.
>
>But even knowing you cannot prove it, you will be too stubborn to admit how
>utterly ignorant you are. Before spouting off, have you ever stopped to think
>if you can actually back up the garbage that comes out of your mouth/writing
>implement?
>
>
::Reads and can't resist, even though he knows, he's gonna get in trouble.::
I bet she's beautiful when she's angry
Meth
Date: 09 Jul 1999 08:36:15 EDT
>"Or people like MorganFay who only show up for Tourneys and get a prize until
>they lose their first challenge."
>
>You were stupid enough to make the charge, now prove it. Show me where there
>is no trace of me being in the realm, no presence on the boards, nor in the
>arena except to show up for tourneys.
>
>Fact is, "Ecore", you cannot prove it. Number one, you are not even around
>long enough to witness anyone's attendance/dueling status first hand (your
>crises du quart seem to hamper your chances to observe with any real
>regularity); number two, you cannot even take the time to read the boards to
>catch up on what you have missed before making such ridiculous claims.
>
>But even knowing you cannot prove it, you will be too stubborn to admit how
>utterly ignorant you are. Before spouting off, have you ever stopped to think
>if you can actually back up the garbage that comes out of your mouth/writing
>implement?
>
>
::Reads and can't resist, even though he knows, he's gonna get in trouble.::
I bet she's beautiful when she's angry
Meth
