From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:23:09 EDT
Var~
I agree, but you *can* say "I disagree" without saying "I disagree, you idiot".
~Sid
About a challenge..
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From: carnage669@aol.com (Carnage669)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:35:38 EDT
>If you feel my thinking's off, then I'd rather you say that than hear you say, "You're right, Var."
Your thinking is off...and your also a sorry excuse for a human being. If believe that is blunt enough for your miniature brain to understand.
Jesting of course...or am I,
Cletus
Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:35:38 EDT
>If you feel my thinking's off, then I'd rather you say that than hear you say, "You're right, Var."
Your thinking is off...and your also a sorry excuse for a human being. If believe that is blunt enough for your miniature brain to understand.
Jesting of course...or am I,
Cletus
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 20:01:07 EDT
Sidie Poo,
Thou art an amusing old hag an' tis verra clear thine memory fails thee mightily. Naturally, tis thee wouldnae recall declaring thineself mad, a sign, certes, 'o thine continuing creeping senility. Scandal Monger, 'ow utterly droll. Perhaps thou wouldst elucidate?
Madame, ast to honesty, thee an' th' trait hae long since parted ways. Tis rather amusing thee wouldst hie thineself off inta a tirade at mine comments whilst completely ignoring the fact that Percy hast stated categorically that the entire Council 'o Baron's be nae worthy. Again, nae surprising, for tis plain thee suffer a distinct case 'o tunnel vision, that be if thee hae anna vision atall.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 07 Aug 1999 20:01:07 EDT
Sidie Poo,
Thou art an amusing old hag an' tis verra clear thine memory fails thee mightily. Naturally, tis thee wouldnae recall declaring thineself mad, a sign, certes, 'o thine continuing creeping senility. Scandal Monger, 'ow utterly droll. Perhaps thou wouldst elucidate?
Madame, ast to honesty, thee an' th' trait hae long since parted ways. Tis rather amusing thee wouldst hie thineself off inta a tirade at mine comments whilst completely ignoring the fact that Percy hast stated categorically that the entire Council 'o Baron's be nae worthy. Again, nae surprising, for tis plain thee suffer a distinct case 'o tunnel vision, that be if thee hae anna vision atall.
Jonalyn Starfare
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 20:13:55 EDT
Jonalyn~
You keep repeating that my memory is failing me, yet it is you who cannot remember an exact time when I supposedly claimed myself mad well enough to even post it.
As to why I would call you scandal monger, well, I suppose Magnus could explain to us all your continuing prodding one night into a long gone situation about an old Challenge to him. A place, mind you, where you have no business sticking your nose into it, it being Magnus' Challenge.
As to Percy's words, you seem to take lack of mention for complete ignoring. You are wrong. I, unlike you, need not bring out every detail into the fore. Of course, it would be easy for anyone to see how you keep trying to shove the fingers in Percy's face when we are talking about *your* actions.
~Sidartha
Date: 07 Aug 1999 20:13:55 EDT
Jonalyn~
You keep repeating that my memory is failing me, yet it is you who cannot remember an exact time when I supposedly claimed myself mad well enough to even post it.
As to why I would call you scandal monger, well, I suppose Magnus could explain to us all your continuing prodding one night into a long gone situation about an old Challenge to him. A place, mind you, where you have no business sticking your nose into it, it being Magnus' Challenge.
As to Percy's words, you seem to take lack of mention for complete ignoring. You are wrong. I, unlike you, need not bring out every detail into the fore. Of course, it would be easy for anyone to see how you keep trying to shove the fingers in Percy's face when we are talking about *your* actions.
~Sidartha
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From: maxim128@aol.com (Maxim128)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 22:49:02 EDT
>As to why I would call you scandal monger, well, I suppose Magnus could
>explain to us all your continuing prodding one night into a long gone
>situation about an old Challenge to him.
Sid,
No, actually, I couldn't.
~Magnus~
Baron of the 13th
Guardian of Polaris
Date: 07 Aug 1999 22:49:02 EDT
>As to why I would call you scandal monger, well, I suppose Magnus could
>explain to us all your continuing prodding one night into a long gone
>situation about an old Challenge to him.
Sid,
No, actually, I couldn't.
~Magnus~
Baron of the 13th
Guardian of Polaris
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From: sidarthae@aol.com (Sidartha E)
Date: 07 Aug 1999 23:07:46 EDT
Magnus~
Ah well, like I said...I suppose, I wasn't sure if you would.
~Sid
Date: 07 Aug 1999 23:07:46 EDT
Magnus~
Ah well, like I said...I suppose, I wasn't sure if you would.
~Sid
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 08 Aug 1999 19:44:14 EDT
>>Tis rather amusing thee wouldst hie thineself off inta a tirade at mine comments whilst completely ignoring the fact that Percy hast stated categorically that the entire Council 'o Baron's be nae worthy.<<
Actually, I said none of the current titleholders were leaders. I didn't limit it to the Barons, nor did I say anything about worthiness or unworthiness. Not only did I not say they were unworthy, I did say that several titleholders were capable of being leaders. None of them, however, are currently 'leading' anyone or anything. The simple fact is, the people the community seems to take its cues from are not titleholders.
The fact that the current titleholders are not leaders does not make them bad titleholders, bad people, or unworthy in any way. They just are not currently leading anyone anywhere.
A leader chooses a direction, and not only moves that way themself but either actively recruits or indirectly inspires others to follow. Not necessarily physically or literally, but I think my meaning is clear. Dalamar, everyone can agree, was a leader whether he held title or did not. He made his positions known and he made people either want to follow him or want to stand in his way. Jeff, in the new landscape taking place since Dalamar's defeat,
has been a leader.
None of the current titleholders have yet demonstrated the desire or inclination to lead, as of yet. They seem, from my perspective, either embarked on solitary paths or following in another's footsteps. There is nothing wrong with either. But neither is leading.
Percy
Date: 08 Aug 1999 19:44:14 EDT
>>Tis rather amusing thee wouldst hie thineself off inta a tirade at mine comments whilst completely ignoring the fact that Percy hast stated categorically that the entire Council 'o Baron's be nae worthy.<<
Actually, I said none of the current titleholders were leaders. I didn't limit it to the Barons, nor did I say anything about worthiness or unworthiness. Not only did I not say they were unworthy, I did say that several titleholders were capable of being leaders. None of them, however, are currently 'leading' anyone or anything. The simple fact is, the people the community seems to take its cues from are not titleholders.
The fact that the current titleholders are not leaders does not make them bad titleholders, bad people, or unworthy in any way. They just are not currently leading anyone anywhere.
A leader chooses a direction, and not only moves that way themself but either actively recruits or indirectly inspires others to follow. Not necessarily physically or literally, but I think my meaning is clear. Dalamar, everyone can agree, was a leader whether he held title or did not. He made his positions known and he made people either want to follow him or want to stand in his way. Jeff, in the new landscape taking place since Dalamar's defeat,
has been a leader.
None of the current titleholders have yet demonstrated the desire or inclination to lead, as of yet. They seem, from my perspective, either embarked on solitary paths or following in another's footsteps. There is nothing wrong with either. But neither is leading.
Percy
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 09 Aug 1999 22:34:04 EDT
Percy
I must say tis rather amusing that thee what didst verra loudly decry nigh e'er stance 'o Dalamar's, rousing the rabble and joining in the hue an' cry agin 'im, that thou wouldst now state that Dalamar wast indeed a leader. Thou seemingly hast come a wee late ta th' knowin'.
Jonalyn Starfare
Date: 09 Aug 1999 22:34:04 EDT
Percy
I must say tis rather amusing that thee what didst verra loudly decry nigh e'er stance 'o Dalamar's, rousing the rabble and joining in the hue an' cry agin 'im, that thou wouldst now state that Dalamar wast indeed a leader. Thou seemingly hast come a wee late ta th' knowin'.
Jonalyn Starfare
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From: zenblack@aol.com (Zen Black)
Date: 10 Aug 1999 00:53:23 EDT
"I must say tis rather amusing that thee what didst verra loudly decry nigh e'er stance 'o Dalamar's, rousing the rabble and joining in the hue an' cry agin 'im, that thou wouldst now state that Dalamar wast indeed a leader. Thou seemingly hast come a wee late ta th' knowin'."
He could easily acknowledge that he was a leader without liking the direction he led.
Date: 10 Aug 1999 00:53:23 EDT
"I must say tis rather amusing that thee what didst verra loudly decry nigh e'er stance 'o Dalamar's, rousing the rabble and joining in the hue an' cry agin 'im, that thou wouldst now state that Dalamar wast indeed a leader. Thou seemingly hast come a wee late ta th' knowin'."
He could easily acknowledge that he was a leader without liking the direction he led.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:06:29 EDT
>>I must say tis rather amusing that thee what didst verra loudly decry nigh e'er stance 'o Dalamar's, rousing the rabble and joining in the hue an' cry agin 'im, that thou wouldst now state that Dalamar wast indeed a leader. Thou seemingly hast come a wee late ta th' knowin'.<<
So, Jonalyn, you are then totally unable to admit the leadership of a leader you oppose? You don't have to follow a leader to recognize the fact that he leads others. Dalamar led others, it can't be denied. I think he led them wrongly, but he was still a leader. You could be called a leader as well, though I happen to think that anyone who follows you is lacking in wit or sanity. Nonetheless, you are a leader in the community. More is the pity.
Percy
Date: 10 Aug 1999 14:06:29 EDT
>>I must say tis rather amusing that thee what didst verra loudly decry nigh e'er stance 'o Dalamar's, rousing the rabble and joining in the hue an' cry agin 'im, that thou wouldst now state that Dalamar wast indeed a leader. Thou seemingly hast come a wee late ta th' knowin'.<<
So, Jonalyn, you are then totally unable to admit the leadership of a leader you oppose? You don't have to follow a leader to recognize the fact that he leads others. Dalamar led others, it can't be denied. I think he led them wrongly, but he was still a leader. You could be called a leader as well, though I happen to think that anyone who follows you is lacking in wit or sanity. Nonetheless, you are a leader in the community. More is the pity.
Percy