From: rdifish@aol.com (RDI Fish)
Date: 20 Nov 1999 21:48:59 EST
upon this night, damien was present for his match and waited his prescribed about of time for which the challenger, angel, dinna arrive and is held to be in forfeit.
the matter is now to be handed over to the council for their decision.
kf
challenge for the 8th
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From: jeffoakenshield@aol.com (Jeff Oakenshield)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 00:41:22 EST
Save perhaps Eros, ta whom I lost da ring, and its previous owner Cas Maxim, I am simply disgraced ta see who stains da 8th as well as who aspires ta stain it.
I have never in all my reigns looked back with disgust in losing a match. I feel utter frustration having lost ta Eros, not because of da druid but because of what has become of my ring.
Sickening.
~J
Date: 21 Nov 1999 00:41:22 EST
Save perhaps Eros, ta whom I lost da ring, and its previous owner Cas Maxim, I am simply disgraced ta see who stains da 8th as well as who aspires ta stain it.
I have never in all my reigns looked back with disgust in losing a match. I feel utter frustration having lost ta Eros, not because of da druid but because of what has become of my ring.
Sickening.
~J
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From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 02:41:51 EST
Jeffrey,
Indeed, the Eighth be in ta 'ands 'o a lout an' aspired ta by a lolly slingin' Goddess wh' seemed ta hae been amused when she didst finally appear late in ta eve, long after she wast ta meet ta current 'older 'o th' Eighth.
Ah fer one shall indeed remember jus' 'ow ta Goddess didst behave when she finally made her appearance.
Tis such ast this be another mos' damnin' example 'o th' darkness wh' continues ta descend 'pon these ancient 'alls. Tis indeed sickenin', disgustin' an' saddenin' th' ta Eighth be tainted an' dishonored thus.
Tis mine sincerest 'ope that ta Council shall consider having ta Eighth championed by one who hae shown respect and 'onors both the duels an' ta traditions.
I should 'ope indeed that the Eighth wouldst be given over unto the staff for ta be earned during the coming Warlord's Tourney shouldst the Council chose a champion and said champion be successful.
Tis this be indeed a time that an empty Council seat be much preferred than ta hae th' Eighth Ring so stained.
Jona
Date: 21 Nov 1999 02:41:51 EST
Jeffrey,
Indeed, the Eighth be in ta 'ands 'o a lout an' aspired ta by a lolly slingin' Goddess wh' seemed ta hae been amused when she didst finally appear late in ta eve, long after she wast ta meet ta current 'older 'o th' Eighth.
Ah fer one shall indeed remember jus' 'ow ta Goddess didst behave when she finally made her appearance.
Tis such ast this be another mos' damnin' example 'o th' darkness wh' continues ta descend 'pon these ancient 'alls. Tis indeed sickenin', disgustin' an' saddenin' th' ta Eighth be tainted an' dishonored thus.
Tis mine sincerest 'ope that ta Council shall consider having ta Eighth championed by one who hae shown respect and 'onors both the duels an' ta traditions.
I should 'ope indeed that the Eighth wouldst be given over unto the staff for ta be earned during the coming Warlord's Tourney shouldst the Council chose a champion and said champion be successful.
Tis this be indeed a time that an empty Council seat be much preferred than ta hae th' Eighth Ring so stained.
Jona
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From: verceterixfavre@aol.com (Verceterix Favre)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 02:55:27 EST
For the public's information,
The council has begun deliberating on this matter. Once we have reached a decision, I will post it on this very same board.
-Verceterix Gavin Favre
Senior Baron of the Fifth
Date: 21 Nov 1999 02:55:27 EST
For the public's information,
The council has begun deliberating on this matter. Once we have reached a decision, I will post it on this very same board.
-Verceterix Gavin Favre
Senior Baron of the Fifth
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 04:57:50 EST
I think I'll add my two cents in with Jeff and Jonalyn. This is disgusting and neither of them deserve the ring.
Cas-Warlord,Centurion,Loving husband,Former Baron of the Sixth and Eighth
Date: 21 Nov 1999 04:57:50 EST
I think I'll add my two cents in with Jeff and Jonalyn. This is disgusting and neither of them deserve the ring.
Cas-Warlord,Centurion,Loving husband,Former Baron of the Sixth and Eighth
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From: auritan@aol.com (Auritan)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 10:05:58 EST
::reading the stack of missives and becoming confused, the old man decides to post a query onto the stack as this might be the best way to obtain an answer to the question he poses... taking out his quill and notepad, he writes::
Kind Sirs and Ladies,
I have read of the forfeit in the Challenge for the Eighth Baronian Ring as posted on this board by the Official. Then I have read of the matter being turned over to our Baronial Council and further writings insinuating that the Ring of the Eighth should be held in forfeit.
I have concern and confusion that mayhaps someone could clear up, since it has been ages ago that I read the rules of Challenge. My question is "Why should a baron be held to forfeit his ring because his challenger failed to attend the Challenge Match?"
Perhaps there is more to this story than I know, other than the obvious conflict in personalities and opinions, but as I read the announcement posted by the Official, the matter seems straightforward enough.
In the words of the vernacular... Could someone clue me in?
Penned with respect for all,
Auritan
::the old man posts the message thus written upon the cork board and quietly moves off, with a nod and a smile to the others gathered around::
Date: 21 Nov 1999 10:05:58 EST
::reading the stack of missives and becoming confused, the old man decides to post a query onto the stack as this might be the best way to obtain an answer to the question he poses... taking out his quill and notepad, he writes::
Kind Sirs and Ladies,
I have read of the forfeit in the Challenge for the Eighth Baronian Ring as posted on this board by the Official. Then I have read of the matter being turned over to our Baronial Council and further writings insinuating that the Ring of the Eighth should be held in forfeit.
I have concern and confusion that mayhaps someone could clear up, since it has been ages ago that I read the rules of Challenge. My question is "Why should a baron be held to forfeit his ring because his challenger failed to attend the Challenge Match?"
Perhaps there is more to this story than I know, other than the obvious conflict in personalities and opinions, but as I read the announcement posted by the Official, the matter seems straightforward enough.
In the words of the vernacular... Could someone clue me in?
Penned with respect for all,
Auritan
::the old man posts the message thus written upon the cork board and quietly moves off, with a nod and a smile to the others gathered around::
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From: humadragbn@aol.com (HumaDragbn)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 10:14:06 EST
Feh. Nothing ever changes around here. Except me.
The Huminator
Date: 21 Nov 1999 10:14:06 EST
Feh. Nothing ever changes around here. Except me.
The Huminator
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From: carnage669@aol.com (Carnage669)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 12:37:52 EST
>"Why should a baron be held to forfeit his ring because his challenger failed
>to attend the Challenge Match?"
>
The same way Huma lost his right to challenge for Dal not showing...I guess.
Cletus
Date: 21 Nov 1999 12:37:52 EST
>"Why should a baron be held to forfeit his ring because his challenger failed
>to attend the Challenge Match?"
>
The same way Huma lost his right to challenge for Dal not showing...I guess.
Cletus
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 14:21:30 EST
>"Why should a baron be held to forfeit his ring because his challenger failed
>>to attend the Challenge Match?"
Because there's an accusation that the Baron in question purposely avoided compromise in scheduling so that he could force the challenger to forfiet the match.
If that is the case, then action deserves to be taken against the Baron, as well.
More information will be coming after further investigation.
Date: 21 Nov 1999 14:21:30 EST
>"Why should a baron be held to forfeit his ring because his challenger failed
>>to attend the Challenge Match?"
Because there's an accusation that the Baron in question purposely avoided compromise in scheduling so that he could force the challenger to forfiet the match.
If that is the case, then action deserves to be taken against the Baron, as well.
More information will be coming after further investigation.
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From: bodebojangles@aol.com (Bode BoJangles)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 14:22:16 EST
What, we punish someone 'round here for not doing a damn thing wrong? Ya ain't getting rid of this so-called darkness by throwing out the rules of precedent, just adding to it. Damn, you people worry me some times.
Bode - for hire
Date: 21 Nov 1999 14:22:16 EST
What, we punish someone 'round here for not doing a damn thing wrong? Ya ain't getting rid of this so-called darkness by throwing out the rules of precedent, just adding to it. Damn, you people worry me some times.
Bode - for hire
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 15:35:00 EST
"Because there's an accusation that the Baron in question purposely avoided compromise in scheduling so that he could force the challenger to forfiet the match."
Maybe it wasn't on purpose, though. I don't know, I didn't hear anything... But maybe he did that tradition BS that a few duelists try to pull off.
All I know is, they're both absent-minded, naive, and worth a well paid slaughter.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
-The gut that still hates tradition. Most, anyway.
Date: 21 Nov 1999 15:35:00 EST
"Because there's an accusation that the Baron in question purposely avoided compromise in scheduling so that he could force the challenger to forfiet the match."
Maybe it wasn't on purpose, though. I don't know, I didn't hear anything... But maybe he did that tradition BS that a few duelists try to pull off.
All I know is, they're both absent-minded, naive, and worth a well paid slaughter.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
-The gut that still hates tradition. Most, anyway.
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From: elijaheagleecore@aol.com (ElijahEagleEcore)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 16:39:17 EST
::message left unsigned among the numerous others::
When Lupton challenged Ecore, it was determined that BOTH sides must agree to a scheduled time, regardless of schedules. Regardless of traditions, both challenger and challenged must agree to a specific time that both can attend to resolve the challenge. If a time was agreed to by both parties regardless of the circumstances, then it is up to the duelers to meet their commitments. In no way should a reigning title holder lose their title when
they showed up to defend it and a challenger did not show up.
~Elijah~
"Rest in Reason, Pursue in Passion"
Date: 21 Nov 1999 16:39:17 EST
::message left unsigned among the numerous others::
When Lupton challenged Ecore, it was determined that BOTH sides must agree to a scheduled time, regardless of schedules. Regardless of traditions, both challenger and challenged must agree to a specific time that both can attend to resolve the challenge. If a time was agreed to by both parties regardless of the circumstances, then it is up to the duelers to meet their commitments. In no way should a reigning title holder lose their title when
they showed up to defend it and a challenger did not show up.
~Elijah~
"Rest in Reason, Pursue in Passion"
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 16:59:02 EST
>What, we punish someone 'round here for not doing a damn thing wrong? Ya
>ain't getting rid of this so-called darkness by throwing out the rules of
>precedent, just adding to it. Damn, you people worry me some times.
>
>Bode - for hire
Bode,
First, who are you "defending"? Because it's quite possible that the Baron did do something wrong. And, if you'd want my opinion, I actually beleive that Damien set it up so that Angel couldn't show up to the match, despite her attempts to set a date she could make.
So, Damien did do something wrong in that case, and Angel did not.
-However-
If Angel agreed upon the time Damien set, which, according to the letters I received, she didn't agree, then she should be punished for not making it.
>If a time was agreed to by both parties regardless of the circumstances, then
>it is up to the duelers to meet their commitments. In no way should a
>reigning title holder lose their title when
>they showed up to defend it and a challenger did not show up.
To the one who doesn't sign the note,
The Challenger did not agree to the time of the match. And in the several copies I recieved regarding this match, she attempted several times to make a compromise.
I hope that helps your understanding of this match.
I'll refrain from my personal opinions on both these... duelists... for the time being.
*G*
Date: 21 Nov 1999 16:59:02 EST
>What, we punish someone 'round here for not doing a damn thing wrong? Ya
>ain't getting rid of this so-called darkness by throwing out the rules of
>precedent, just adding to it. Damn, you people worry me some times.
>
>Bode - for hire
Bode,
First, who are you "defending"? Because it's quite possible that the Baron did do something wrong. And, if you'd want my opinion, I actually beleive that Damien set it up so that Angel couldn't show up to the match, despite her attempts to set a date she could make.
So, Damien did do something wrong in that case, and Angel did not.
-However-
If Angel agreed upon the time Damien set, which, according to the letters I received, she didn't agree, then she should be punished for not making it.
>If a time was agreed to by both parties regardless of the circumstances, then
>it is up to the duelers to meet their commitments. In no way should a
>reigning title holder lose their title when
>they showed up to defend it and a challenger did not show up.
To the one who doesn't sign the note,
The Challenger did not agree to the time of the match. And in the several copies I recieved regarding this match, she attempted several times to make a compromise.
I hope that helps your understanding of this match.
I'll refrain from my personal opinions on both these... duelists... for the time being.
*G*
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From: elijaheagleecore@aol.com (ElijahEagleEcore)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 17:08:43 EST
::unsigned response to Gnort's response::
Then the challenger should have suaght legal advice from the officials of the sport in regards to this matter. Any dueler has the right to seek the assistance of the Baron's Council or the sport's officials if settlements or other arrangements can not be agreed to. If the challenger never agreed to the date and time set for the challenge match, then I would venture to say that no challenge match had ever been technically officially set as
official within the bounds of the sport. So therefore the challenger has not forfeit their challenge and it should be rescheduled to an appropriate time when both parties can commence with this challenge.
Date: 21 Nov 1999 17:08:43 EST
::unsigned response to Gnort's response::
Then the challenger should have suaght legal advice from the officials of the sport in regards to this matter. Any dueler has the right to seek the assistance of the Baron's Council or the sport's officials if settlements or other arrangements can not be agreed to. If the challenger never agreed to the date and time set for the challenge match, then I would venture to say that no challenge match had ever been technically officially set as
official within the bounds of the sport. So therefore the challenger has not forfeit their challenge and it should be rescheduled to an appropriate time when both parties can commence with this challenge.
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From: xelthar@aol.com (Xelthar)
Date: 21 Nov 1999 17:50:09 EST
::The young vampire having just read the rules quickly posts his thoughts as he was always one to give his input on any matter that arose, whether it involved him or nay::
Though I know neither the challenger nor the challenged, tis seeming to me that the one named Angel could have spoken sooner. Letting this so-called challenge proceed seems to be some type of silent protest, yet silence can never truly solve anything.
::he hisses after tacking up the note, forgetting to leave a signiture as he once again has a craving for blood::
Date: 21 Nov 1999 17:50:09 EST
::The young vampire having just read the rules quickly posts his thoughts as he was always one to give his input on any matter that arose, whether it involved him or nay::
Though I know neither the challenger nor the challenged, tis seeming to me that the one named Angel could have spoken sooner. Letting this so-called challenge proceed seems to be some type of silent protest, yet silence can never truly solve anything.
::he hisses after tacking up the note, forgetting to leave a signiture as he once again has a craving for blood::