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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:36 pm

Date: 10/26/97 4:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Jola Fici

::tacking this note up to the boards, chuckling over the crayon markings that Aleath added::

Fellow DoS Members,

I am concerned about the practice of bringing children into the DoS Arena while duels are occuring. I feel this could be traumatic, or at least upsetting, for the children.
Ulath and I have a son, Aleath, who is two now. Sometimes he watches Ulath practice with his axe, sometimes he watches when I am taking lessons from Ulath. This has caused him to, naturally, enjoy playing with his sword. (Which is really any available, similarly shaped object he can reach)
I have brought him to a duel only once, and that was when he was asleep. While he was there, I realized that, had he been watching his father duel, and bleed, he might have been rather upset. It can't be easy for a young child to watch their beloved parent getting injured.
Add to that, the presence of the wards around the Arena and Team Duels, which heal the wounds received in dueling. That is a seriously different occurance than what would happen outside the duels. Should he stab a friend while "play dueling" (when he's a little older) then that friend could easily die, because there are no such wards, generally speaking, in the world outside of the arena.
I do not presume to tell any other parent how to raise their children. I only wish to present these ideas so that parents of RhyDin and DoS might think about the practice of bringing their children into the Arena.
Thank you for reading.

... Jola Fici ...
Wife of Ulath Fici
Mother of Aleath
Herald of Questrion

((OOC note: Please understand the above is strictly IC. Please insinuate nothing OOC about it. :) Let's not get into a role playing discussion, 'cause I know that the DoS is the only place many of us go anymore. ))
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:36 pm

Date: 10/26/97 8:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Khrysta102


::reads the note and chuckles some over the crayon marks::Jola~~~While I can understand your concern, I feel that it might be better to explain the wards and protections of the arena to children at an early age, rather than simply keep them from the arena altogether. I have a young boy, Brian O'Shaunessy, living with me currently. This child has seen the arena from a different perspective than you or I could ever have. He watched the end of a Death Match between his sister, Prudence, and Queen Luthien. The ward and protections around the arena did not miraculously heal his sister as she lay dying in Luthien's arms that evening. The child has been taught about the wards, and understands now why his sister was involved in the event in the first place. He is also going to be taught to duel when he feels he is ready to learn. This is just my way of dealing with the question of children in the arena, but I do feel that the children here in RhyDin will be living with these protections around the arena. They should be educated to know the difference between real dueling.... where sometimes people are truly injured and die.... and arena dueling, where Gondor's Ward heals the injuries as they occur. That way, they will grow up with the concept and understand what a truly unique and wonderous place RhyDin is.~~~~Khrys~~~~((OOC Note: For those interested in reading about the Death Match between Prudence and Luthien you can find the SL in the thread ~~~~ "Subject: <<<<<<<<<={=@" ~~~~ in the DoS Message board. You'll have to do a "Find Since" rather than a "Find All", as it's an older thread))
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:37 pm

Date: 10/26/97 12:23 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: PrlUnicorn


::tacks up a note to the bunch::

Many of my own children have been brought into the Arena. I expect my youngest, Rhiannon, to end up a fixture there when she is older. She understands full well the reasons for care with weapons of all types. Her upbringing is a bit different, having had to adjust to things most children will never know until they are adults. She has watched us needing to patch up our horses from accidents and her brothers 18 and 16, from practicing with their
blades.

Rhi is well looked after and I know where she can be found when she slips her oldest brothers hand coming into town. My friends have adopted her like one of their own.

I do honestly appreciate your concern, Jola, not all children do understand these things because they have not been exposed to them. A need for teaching is great. Rhi is the exception to most children going there not the rule.



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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:37 pm

Date: 10/26/97 4:07 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: GnrtDrgoon




::grins reading the notes::

Seeing your parents bleed builds character. I fully expect my boy to become a dueler and how better to understand the fundementals of not getting hit than to see your father getting beat up?

::chuckles;:As for stabbign a freind, the friend shoulda parried.
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:37 pm

Date: 10/27/97 8:02 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: CygnetSera


As the Seraph (which is the singular of Seraphin, or Seraphim, which are the plural forms and both correct spellings), anyway... as the Seraph passed the boards, she caught sight of the familiar hand writing of her dear friend Jola. Reading all the notes, Cygnet pulled forth her signature quill with green ink and penned her opinion, as the Seraphin are notoriously opinionated and very intune with the nature of children.My dear friends,Just as with anything in life, we must, as guardians and care caregivers to the children of this realm, be responsible and thoughtful as we choose the environments they learn in. I would not hesitate to allow a child that is mature and in a comprehensive frame of mind to partake in some of the activities of the DoS. But very young children are rarely able to deal with what we as adults so easily process and cope with. And even as adults, look at all the *adventures* that often are not well handled by even some of the most frequented patrons and duelers. I believe we must all temper our beliefs that the youngsters are ok in the arena. Of course it is easy to justify that there will be no repercusions so that we may bring them with us, but all of us should remember those things that we saw as children that our parents thought were of little impact, wether it be an act of violence, or verbal abuse, or a vile act... and how that impacted who we have become today. I believe each child is unique and will react differently to the activities in the arena, but mark my words that it is a great weight and risk when a young mind is at stake.... I say do no harm. I remain in grace,Cygnet SeraphinFallen 1st of the 9 OrdersKeeper of the QueueCommoner of House Questrion~ CS ~
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:38 pm

Date: 10/27/97 12:37 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Sidartha E


Well, seeing as my son and daughter are only newborns, I don't think they even know or care what's going on in the rings yet. But when they are old enough to know what's going on around them, rest assured that I will explain to them what is going on as well as they can understand.


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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:40 pm

Date: 10/27/97 1:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Foxxgrrl

I don't have children and I'm not pregnant. I don't know children...I've never even babysat, thank the Gods. All I know is from my own experience growing up.
Until I was eleven, I lived in Fief Trebond in northern Tortall. Almost every spring we had to fight off Scanran raiders who came from over the border to see if Tortall was unified or safe for invasion. We were Tortall's first line of defense, and my brother Thom and I learned firsthand how important skill in weapons is. On me, this had the effect of inspiring me to become a knight. Thom, however, decided he hated that kind of thing
and went on to become a sorceror.
Maybe this isn't quite the point, seeing as how I grew up there was no avoiding this kind of thing. But it's just my insight.....
::scribbles her official title for the hell of it::
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:40 pm

Date: 10/27/97 4:35 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: LdyAja


::wanders by and adds her two cents worth::

Hey y'all,

I'm all for letting parents raise their children as they see fit. I mean, if you don't agree with bringing kids in the arena..don't. I'm not getting on anyone's case here...But I personally love the fact there are kids in the arena at times. Sid was gracious enough to let me hold her precious baby Lorran. What a sweet child he is. Something so innocent and totally unaware of what life holds for them...It's a nice change from all the death, and
destruction we have all witnessed at some time or another.
See ya all soon.


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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:40 pm

Date: 11/3/97 7:51 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Ferengi111


::walks up to the boards to post::

Hey guys, its me Farek. I just wanted to say that im 12 (IRL and RP) and it aint traumatic to me. ;:shrugs:: i guess its just the way you look at it.

Farek,
The one who WILL add chlorine to the Gene Pool :D
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:41 pm

Date: 11/3/97 9:30 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: LdyAja


::reads Farek's message::

Chlorine to the gene pool? YIKES!!!!




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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:41 pm

Date: 11/3/97 2:26 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: GnrtDrgoon


Well, chlorine seems to work in other pools to keep out the icky stuff....

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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:41 pm

Date: 11/3/97 3:10 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Foxxgrrl


Somehow, fat guys in Speedos make it in anyway.
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:41 pm

Date: 11/3/97 9:08 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: BadgerAx

Well there are children in the arena that are much older than 12 (IRL and OOC)
::Snickers and stick a Tuna <>< on the note with Gnorts name on it::
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:42 pm

Date: 11/23/97 7:37 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: RLupton


::passes the boards; a truly rare event... unfortunately the one time he did he reads Aja's note:: (m) She... touched him? ::shudders in pure disgust and heads off::

((Note: There are no people, spies, cameras, arcane watchers, Gods, house-wives, ants, invisible messenger pigeons, living tables, shadows with eyes, or parrots in the arena that could see or hear Lupton. ;))
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Post by DoS Archive » Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:42 pm

Date: 11/24/97 5:22 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: BuffyWntrs


::There was, however, a mockingbird nested high in the rafters of the Arena who saw the man shudder in disgust::

::It squawked quietly to itself:: Brwak.. she touched him.. brwak.. she touched him...
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