A call for Investigation

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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:28:53 EST


I need a couple of secretaries.

Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First
Zafiroo Turidan

Baron of the First

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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:42:31 EST

" Is it better to follow the rules as written or is it better to follow customs and traditions?"

While this was addressed to Ian, I have a counter-question.
Do you think the officials of the sport have a right to incorporate their feelings of whether or not someone should or shouldn't get the win?
The officials call the duels, they are looked upon as "role models." They are supposed to be impartial. It would be like me telling one duelist in the ring "looks like he's going to attack," because I think that the other person doesn't deserve the win.
It shouldn't just be looked at as a custom; think of it this way. If the callers no longer have to be impartial, because they can use their own personal codes in deciding whether or not someone deserves the win, then the officials could no longer be trusted, and we leave an open door for people to do whatever they want in officiating the duel. We'd also receive comments such as, "But X let me take the win! I'm winning 4-0 in 12 rounds, and you
won't let me take the win?"

There is a reason they put "with the duelist's input." If the official didn't need to listen to the duelist, it wouldn't be added there.
In either case, I'd much rather see callers as impartial as can be, instead of having to go along with each official's personal feelings on when someone should get a win in the case their opponent disappears.


Var Medici-Giovanni


Proud Father, Proud Husband

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From: ianmackenzie@aol.com (Ian MacKenzie)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 20:47:16 EST

" Ian,
Is it better to follow the rules as written or is it better to follow customs and traditions?"

It's better to follow the policy which is traditional and has been publicly accepted and supported by this sport's management. If someone stumbles across the fact that a rule allows for a different interpretation, then the rule should be reworded - which is precisely what the end result of this fiasco has turned out to be.

Regards,
Ian Rex.

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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:52:14 EST


>Do you think the officials of the sport have a right to incorporate their
>feelings of whether or not someone should or shouldn't get the win?

Var,

No I do not think they should use there feelings in anyway. Officials should be impartial and should not let there personal feelings get involved in there decisions. I do agree with everything you have stated, but the point I was trying to make is Drake did not break any rules, as some would like to make others think.
Now personal feelings I think she did use. Not toward Damien, but personal feelings on whether it should have been called a duel or not that I dont agree with. I also dont agree with people cracking on her and saying she blantanly disregarded the rules, because she did not.

Respectfully,
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First

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From: zafiroo@aol.com (Zafiroo)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:59:29 EST



>It's better to follow the policy which is traditional and has been publicly
>accepted and supported by this sport's management. If someone stumbles
>across the fact that a rule allows for a different interpretation, then the
>rule should be reworded

Ian,
That is an excellent way to put it. I think that sums it up. Now I understand exactly what you have been saying.

That is how it should have been said in the beginning instead of pointless slinging mud.

Respectfully,
Zafiroo Turidan
Baron of the First