From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:13:58 EST
::blinks at Jeffrey's reply, dumbfounded::
"Once again, when challenged, you make some pointless, petty reply rather dan one which addresses da challenge against you. We have now provided you both with a more appropriate definition of "fact" as well as situations when "I believe" is not necessary ta make a statement of opinion. I will assume yer lack of a counter argument is a concession on yer part admitting yer fallacy in logic."
Wait one gods-be-damned minute! What in the Nine Hells was petty about me telling you that it wasn't my intent to downplay Ian's point? It *truly* was not my intent.
And, while omission is NOT consession, I do in fact see everyone's point. I still believe it to be a matter of courtesy, but the world isn't going to end if we don't come to an agreement.
~Sidartha
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:18:30 EST
Morgan,
I understand your points, truly I do. However this is getting nowhere. I'm sorry I even brought it up.
~Sidartha
Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:18:30 EST
Morgan,
I understand your points, truly I do. However this is getting nowhere. I'm sorry I even brought it up.
~Sidartha
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From: reoddaii@aol.com (Reod Daii)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 17:24:30 EST
General Public:
In case it matters to any of you, I've challenged Jesse for the 4th.
Reod Daii
Date: 09 Mar 2000 17:24:30 EST
General Public:
In case it matters to any of you, I've challenged Jesse for the 4th.
Reod Daii
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 20:50:57 EST
Yes, Reod, it matters, most definately.
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Date: 09 Mar 2000 20:50:57 EST
Yes, Reod, it matters, most definately.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:14:37 EST
>
>Does not the word "fact" denote something that is correct? A fact is a piece
>of information presented as having objective reality. How can a fact be
>incorrect?
People can state details as facts which are not facts. Or people can make an error in their interpretation of the facts. Or they can mistake the facts completely. They can even lie about them. Does that answer your question at all?
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Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:14:37 EST
>
>Does not the word "fact" denote something that is correct? A fact is a piece
>of information presented as having objective reality. How can a fact be
>incorrect?
People can state details as facts which are not facts. Or people can make an error in their interpretation of the facts. Or they can mistake the facts completely. They can even lie about them. Does that answer your question at all?
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:17:17 EST
>In other words, Percival, while people disagree with me, with the exception
>of a couple of folks in the past who have, indeed, been disgraces to this
>sport, opinion aside, nobody ever says "What right do you have to judge, Ian
>MacKenzie?" or "Who do you think you are speaking for this sport, Ian
>MacKenzie?"
Actually, I am pretty sure I said something along these lines at least once. I realize I am old, but I don't think I am senile yet.
>If, indeed, it is the intent to claim that Jonalyn is a disgrace to this
>sport and therefore is in no position to judge others for the same failure,
>then please, by all means, get your nerves up and make the claim.
I think I have done this at least once. I am sure I will again, as well. That is precisely my point, and I am sure I will repeat it again in the future.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
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Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:17:17 EST
>In other words, Percival, while people disagree with me, with the exception
>of a couple of folks in the past who have, indeed, been disgraces to this
>sport, opinion aside, nobody ever says "What right do you have to judge, Ian
>MacKenzie?" or "Who do you think you are speaking for this sport, Ian
>MacKenzie?"
Actually, I am pretty sure I said something along these lines at least once. I realize I am old, but I don't think I am senile yet.
>If, indeed, it is the intent to claim that Jonalyn is a disgrace to this
>sport and therefore is in no position to judge others for the same failure,
>then please, by all means, get your nerves up and make the claim.
I think I have done this at least once. I am sure I will again, as well. That is precisely my point, and I am sure I will repeat it again in the future.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:21:34 EST
>I think you are missing a key point. A fact is NOT something that is true. A
>fact is something that has yet to be proven untrue. I could state something
>as a fact, say that my hair is black, and until someone can prove that
>statement untrue, it remains an undeniable fact.
Actually, in the most technical definition, a fact is a statement which can be proven or disproven. Something that is definitely true or false, objectively and not subjectively. If I say 'Morgan's fair is green', that is a statement of fact. It may not be true, and the actual facts may differ, but the statement is a statement of fact and not opinion. It is, however, an inaccurate statement of the facts.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
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Date: 11 Mar 2000 14:21:34 EST
>I think you are missing a key point. A fact is NOT something that is true. A
>fact is something that has yet to be proven untrue. I could state something
>as a fact, say that my hair is black, and until someone can prove that
>statement untrue, it remains an undeniable fact.
Actually, in the most technical definition, a fact is a statement which can be proven or disproven. Something that is definitely true or false, objectively and not subjectively. If I say 'Morgan's fair is green', that is a statement of fact. It may not be true, and the actual facts may differ, but the statement is a statement of fact and not opinion. It is, however, an inaccurate statement of the facts.
Duc Percival Marchand de Clermont
Warlord of the Duel of Swords
The White Duke