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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:56 pm

From: taylara@aol.com (Taylara)
Date: 10 Jun 2000 20:46:31 EDT

As sent to the required parties:

Overlord Dragonsblade, Barons Council, Supervisors and Standings Keeper:

I, Taylara Tyree, Warlady of the Duel of Swords and recipient of the fourth place prize in the recent Warlord Tournament; do hereby exercise my right for an intercession free duel with Overlord Dragonsblade for the right to wear the crown.
As for the reasons leading to my decision, they are many. My main contention being; I did not agree with the reasoning behind Mr. Dragonsblade's decision to vie for Overlord. The following excerpts are taken from the letter written by Daelin upon winning the crown:

"I voted that way for a reason..Drey's challenge stood for over a month, and the Warlords Tournament bursted down upon us. Someone needed to defend Avery's claim to the Throne, many people say why not use a Champion and save yourself heartache? I did not vote for a Champion because I felt that the staff would not see this as a valid course of action.."PTSIZE=9 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Lucida Bright" LANG="0">
A Loyal Baron has the right to defend the title of the Overlord to whom he pledges allegiance. Were you voting for your true feelings Daelin, or for how the staff would view you when you made this decision?

"I figured the best way to protect Avery's right to the Crown would be through gaining the title (either myself or another Loyalist), that being said..I don't necessarily see myself as the Overlord, merely a place holder..Upon Avery's return, I request the right from Valentine to pass Avery the Crown without either of us being held in forfiet and that he retain his place as
38th Overlord of the Duel of Swords."
Pray tell how you're *protecting* Avery's right here? If you do not see yourself as Overlord, then who wears the crown? You call yourself a *Place holder*, the community needs an Overlord.

"After becoming a Baron, I found the political turmoil of this place is nothing close to fun, but it should be. That led me to my next belief, I should try to make the Arena honorable once again."
I believe others have born witness to the political turmoil in Swords and they aren't Baron's. As in any community, there will always be turmoil. If you would ask any that have held the mantle I'm sure they would tell you of the turmoil they have witnessed.
I'm not sure how you place *fun* and *honor* in the same line of thought. Something can be honorable, but not fun and vice versa. You may strive to bring honor to the community, but not everyone's views on honor are alike. I believe we each hold our own ideals regarding honor.
As for fun, I have fun every time I step into a ring. I get to challenge my skills, my instincts and my competitive nature, but I have fun doing it. Ever hear the statement, you make your own fun?

"We all must participate and lead by example now..You have all seen how the Council has degraded in the public eye, through example we can show honor and sportsmanship and things will get better (not all at once, but progressively)."
Now here you group all the Baron's into the *Council* and how they have been degraded. I believe each Baron is regarded by his *own* merits. Some held their own, others got caught up in the scheme of things. I believe that each person in the community will make their own decisions on how they regard each individual Baron.

" 3) Renegade Baron and Warlord Tournament Winners- All challenging Renegades and winners of the Intercession-Free title shot will have a straight shot at me, one on one, first to 5 points. I believe their skill has been proven. No Best of Three will be offered unless requested or I see a need for it."
After speaking with the Standings Keeper, my understanding was that the WL may not request a Best of Three. Though they may refuse it if offered. Lastly....

"That being said, I would like to add one thing..if I come out victorious against the Warlady,"
Seems you have assumed since day one of being the 39th Overlord, that I would issue you challenge. Well, Overlord Dragonsblade, consider it done.

Sincerely,
~Taylara Tyree~
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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:56 pm

From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 10 Jun 2000 21:09:17 EDT

>You call yourself a *Place holder*, the community needs an Overlord.

Whatever a Place Holder is, I want it. I'd rather have a Place Holder than you. A person who disrespects her opponent during a challenge match. I thought you didn't have any skill. How'd you beat Magnus? How'd you do so well in a Warlord's tournament? I hope you don't whine when Daelin is beating you. Why does the community need an Overlord? I just want a guy that can just be a Place Holder. I tell you, I'm not ever going to challenge Daelin, but I
would sure as hell challenge you Taylara if you won.

>I'm not sure how you place *fun* and *honor* in the same line of thought.

Easy. Fun is honorable. If you're not here to have fun, you're here for the wrong reasons. I think he hit the nail directly with what he said.

>Something can be honorable, but not fun and vice versa.

I really don't want you telling anyone how something can be honorable and not fun. That is just silly. What mental institution did you graduate from?

>As for fun, I have fun every time I step into a ring.

You whined during my whole challenge match. Remember when I told you to stop talking to Seamus and playing kissy, and look at me? Or to just block out the audience? Maybe this sport is just too much for you. You seemed extremely bothered. "You only challenged me because I'm not a good duelist" my arse.

> WL may not request a Best of Three.

So what? I think if the Warlord ask the Overlord politely, he could get a Best-of-Three. This is nothing to challenge an Overlord for.

Instead of giving all these useless, and very pointless reasons, why didn't you just say, "I am going to enjoy the prize I earned, and challenge Overlord Dragonsblade."

Geeeesh.





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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:57 pm

From: jeffoakenshield@aol.com (Jeff Oakenshield)
Date: 11 Jun 2000 04:03:17 EDT

Drey,

Why didn't you just say "I don't like ya Tay, what ya wrote is BS".

Geeesh.

Hypocracy is humorous...

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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:57 pm

From: jonalyn@aol.com (Jonalyn)
Date: 11 Jun 2000 04:26:14 EDT

Master Starke,

Perhaps tis slipped thine beetle-headed brain th' from ta eve thee didst somehow manage ta garner ta thirteenth ring, an' long afore th', thine behavior hast been one 'o utter disrespect fer th' ancient bloodsport, for those 'o titled rank an' fer ta very Ring th' thee now 'old. Thine dim-witted attempt ta slander ta good name 'o Simini, an' th' attempt ta cast aspersions 'pon Taylara, be little more th' ta yappin' 'o a cornered jackel.

Ast ta a Place 'older, Master Starke, th' be all ye actually be. A laughable, pulin', little boy wh' be tryin' ta act ta man, an' who shouldst rightly be driven from ta basement wi' a boot ta yuir posterior an' dragged 'ome by ta seat 'o yuir knickers. Thee nae e'en deserve ta 'onor 'o facin' steel in ta dance. Thee shouldst be met wi' a baby's bottle.

Tis thee, Master Starke wh' be 'ere fer all ta wrong reasons, though I note 'o late thee rarely venture ta th' basement, an' when ye do, thee flee like yuir tail be on fire.

What institution didst thee graduate, Master Starke? Th' Rhydin Nursery? Thee mus' sorely miss ta 'onorable fun 'o havin' yuir nappies changed after soilin' yuirself whilst playin' in ta sandbox. Ye hae ta intellect 'o a brain damaged gnat, Master Starke, ta intelligence 'o a slug, an' ta wit 'o a dried kumquat.

Rest assured, tis Ah wh' truly 'ope thee nae be spreadin' yuir philosophy 'o wh' thee consider 'onorable, Master Starke. Th' sport be tainted enow wi' those 'o yuir ilk. Tis truly a pity th' Daelin mus' suffer ta burden 'o such ast thee. Tis e'en more a pity th' ta sport an' ta community shouldst suffer thee.

Bluntly,
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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:58 pm

From: daedragonsblade@aol.com (Dae Dragonsblade)
Date: 11 Jun 2000 09:32:02 EDT

Before I get into the letter I sent in response..I just want to say that I offered the Best of Three to the Warlady because I don't believe she deserves the title of Overlord and I want to make it as difficult as possible for her to attain it. Some may say I don't deserve it, and I probably don't..but things happen and you just have to deal with them. Drey reminded me of
something..you're right Warlady Tyree, we do need an Overlord..not someone who complains when someone they believe is going to beat them challenges them. All I heard while you were under challenge from Drey was complaints that he only challenged you because you were easy..what will you do when you are Overlord, wait..make that if you are Overlord? On that note, I'd like to ask Auritan to make sure the Ward is secure for this match, because I'm
going to show you just how much of a monster you think I am..I'm not going to be holding back, at all.

So without further jabberjawing, here's the response to the challenge.

Warlady Tyree,


This isn't the least bit surprising. You seemed full of malice towards me for the last few weeks. Someone I onced assumed to be a friend. Not that that matters now, things change, people change..maybe even I have changed. I couldn't care less..for lack of better words (and wealth of worse ones). Since you feel everything is your business and that you can easily pass judgement on me..I shall abstain from doing such to you. I have explained myself many
a times on the boards as to what I have done and what I feel..you seem to be basing your "assumptions" (because that's what they are, despite how you think) off of old statements.

A Loyal Baron has the right to defend the title of the Overlord to whom he pledges allegiance. Were you voting for your true feelings Daelin, or for how the staff would view you when you made this decision?

You seem to be such a great mind-reader you could answer this. Where in the rules does it say that a Loyal Baron can defend the title of the Overlord *when not requested to*? You know very well Avery wasn't around, and he didn't ask for us to intercede for him..I don't see how this is a valid point. I couldn't care less (once again, same scenario) how the staff views how I voted.
I voted on what seemed like reasonable logic, but may not have been..the staff wouldn't allow someone to step in for Avery when he wasn't there..you know that.

Pray tell how you're *protecting* Avery's right here? If you do not see yourself as Overlord, then who wears the crown? You call yourself a *Place holder*, the community needs an Overlord.

I've already refuted my own statements on this. You can read the boards. The Community does need an Overlord, and I hope to be that Overlord for a lot longer..my thanks though.

As in any community, there will always be turmoil. If you would ask any that have held the mantle I'm sure they would tell you of the turmoil they have witnessed.
I'm not sure how you place *fun* and *honor* in the same line of thought. Something can be honorable, but not fun and vice versa. You may strive to bring honor to the community, but not everyone's views on honor are alike. I believe we each hold our own ideals regarding honor.

Actually. In Totalitarian, Communist, Facist, Leftist and Dictatorial Governments..there really isn't any turmoil. Most that work at least, people are much to afraid to create an uproar. Turmoil can be good, yes. But when it gets out of hand, it can be dangerous. Do you like living in Chaos? I don't. As for not being able to have "Fun" and "Honor" at the same time..I believe you
are confused about this. You can make your fun honorable..as you have said with your quote.

After speaking with the Standings Keeper, my understanding was that the WL may not request a Best of Three. Though they may refuse it if offered. Lastly....

"That being said, I would like to add one thing..if I come out victorious against the Warlady,"
Seems you have assumed since day one of being the 39th Overlord, that I would issue you challenge. Well, Overlord Dragonsblade, consider it done.

Some Warlords can request the Best of Three. You can request anything you want. I've also explained my comment about this challenge. You seem intent on not listening, Warlady Tyree. However, I have been prepared for challenge for awhile now. And it seems you are using this as your sole base concrete fact for challenging..whatever the case may be, I will inform you when I am readily sure of my availability in which to complete this challenge.

As a side note..I offer up the Best of Three style for this Tournament. I believe it is warranted in this circumstance. However, you may refuse Warlady..as you have said.

~Daelin Dragonsblade
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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:58 pm

From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 11 Jun 2000 12:54:06 EDT

>thine behavior hast been one 'o utter disrespect fer th' ancient bloodsport,

Nah, I just decided I don't have to make myself look anymore honorable to anyone else. You, of all people, are not going to tell me I am disrespectful, thank you very much.

>Thine dim-witted attempt ta slander ta good name 'o Simini

I never slandered Simini. Though, maybe the both of you are hallucinating, or misread that one single post you took so very wrong, I just don't get where this is coming from.

>an' th' attempt ta cast aspersions 'pon Taylara

A successful attempt!

>What institution didst thee graduate, Master Starke?

That was original.


>Ast ta a Place 'older, Master Starke, th' be all ye actually be.

I am. I'm happy about it, too. At least I'm not a stiff like yourself, who seems to be obsessed with me once I enter the Arena. I'm disrespectful, dishonorable, an idiot, dolt, arrogant, ignorant, everything in the book once I enter that door. I request you stop harassing me and get a life. You want to take me off the council? Challenge me you bitter old woman. I wonder if you were beaten as a child.


Thank you.







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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:58 pm

From: xxlucianxx@aol.com (XxLucianxX)
Date: 11 Jun 2000 18:03:55 EDT

This might actually prove interesting. As for the WL not being able to request a 2 of 3, it's actually pretty simple. "Can we use the best of three format?" Then, the OL either says "Yes" or "No." Nothing too difficult there.. I wonder if we'll have a new Overlord..

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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:58 pm

From: xerzesm@aol.com (Xerzes M)
Date: 11 Jun 2000 20:19:11 EDT

"Beetle-headed"?
Honestly, Jonalyn.


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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:59 pm

From: skylercj@aol.com (Skyler CJ)
Date: 12 Jun 2000 10:01:58 EDT

We don't want a female overlord!

Go home, tend the young'uns and cook for your husband!

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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:59 pm

From: rlupton@aol.com (RLupton)
Date: 12 Jun 2000 22:51:40 EDT

The challenge for Overlord via a tourney prize is the most sacred, cherished, honorable, and worthy way it can be done.

Taylara'a route has tainted it.

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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:59 pm

From: ariadnehavoick@aol.com (Ariadne Havoick)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 12:15:00 EDT

> Someone I onced assumed to be a friend.

What are you saying Daelin?
That only because you have friends who hold a tittle, you can not duel them because it would destroy a friendship?
If a friend doesn't challenge you, an enemy will. The point is that either way you will get challenged, so what difference would it really make if it was a friend or a foe?
Real friends surpass every situation and if they are truly friends their friendship grows stronger and shall always be friends no matter what obstacle stands in the way.
No competition or challenge ever stands in the way of a friendship, on the contrary, both competitors wish each other luck and compete. One shall come out to be the victor, but that shouldn't be a reason to end a friendship.
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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:59 pm

From: ariadnehavoick@aol.com (Ariadne Havoick)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 12:23:33 EDT

>We don't want a female overlord!
>
>Go home, tend the young'uns and cook for your husband!

Skyler,
Perhaps you have a problem with who holds the pants in your house. The point is that anyone can be Overlord, be it a female or a male, all it takes are peer wins, a challenge and an opponent. When it comes down to dueling, its a matter of who scores 5 points within 15 rounds.
Are you saying that there shouldn't be any women in the Arena dueling because their job is to tend the children? That is so sexist of you!

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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:59 pm

From: xbelariusx@aol.com (X Belarius x)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 13:37:10 EDT

::reads the message, mumbles something to himself about women serving God in the kitchen and the bedroom, but refuses to post it because of pure laziness::


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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:00 pm

From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 13:58:52 EDT

>That only because you have friends who hold a tittle, you can not duel them
>because it would destroy a friendship?

No, it wasn't what he was saying at all. He was talking about her reasoning, not her challenge.





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Post by DoS Archive » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:00 pm

From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 14:00:45 EDT

>Are you saying that there shouldn't be any women in the Arena dueling because
>their job is to tend the children? That is so sexist of you!

No, Skyler didn't say any of that.

However, I think he was being sarcastic, but you never know what his intent is. It's best not to take Skyler seriously. ::draws in a smiley face::







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