From: andrewpyre@aol.com (AndrewPyre)
Date: 01 Jul 2000 19:53:14 EDT
Friends, Detractors, Enemies, etc.,
NOTICE: This thread contains inflammatory dialogue intended for an audience of discerning viewers who share the fascination of life in the DoS. If you are not interested in the flaming, verbal mugging, esoteric references, and general gleeful misinterpretation and distortion of others statements you should perhaps not spend your time here. (The above offered as a public service in the interests in enticing the unwary)
I have returned a few days later then planned, but my services were required elsewhere. I have scanned a few of the existing threads and find the same dreary nonsense delivered by the harridan against her large and varied listing of enemies. For those who have little idea of what and who I am referring to, you have my heartfelt congratulations for your wisdom. For those who, perhaps a bit less wise and more prone to use of these boards I refer to
Jonalyn.
Ahhh, Jonalyn did ever a more active source of invective trod the boards in hobnail boots?
Perhaps, but in all my years following the various online groups and boards you have the singular talent of embittering so many, for so little reason, and with such awesome talent for character assassination. You are to be congratulated, I am sure.
Now to the specific point I wish to address
Jonalyn Starfare is not a supporter of the community at large. She is a source of hatred, dissent, and the cause of numerous arguments in which she gleefully sits back in her web,
now and then shakes a few strands to keep activity going. It is my belief that she, through her verbal and written manipulations engineered the coup that resulted in the entire Avery fiasco. The overall end result is we have a weakened Barons Council and a group of Warlords who appear to desire little more then attacking the current Overlord and deposing him/her so that another lamb can be led to slaughter.
As for her history of the DoS, its traditions, and so on. Who other then historians cares?
We appear to take such delight in repeating the same mistakes so why bother to vex ourselves over such tedious information.
Finally, as time draws short for me this evening and I have other things to attend to I have no intention of entering the arena as a combatant choosing to emulate Jonalyn in this regard. It is fascinating to consider that someone who does not fight in the DoS has such influence. I may chose to attend some of the challenge duels to support a few who in my opinion suitably follow my standards.
Eventually Jonalyn and I may end up in the ring in a three out of five series of matches, but that is in the uncertain future.
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 01 Jul 2000 21:59:34 EDT
Ahem.
First, just what is an "Online group?"
Second, though I may agree with some of the things you say, some of which being the source of dissent.. I have to say, Andrew, that you're pretty idiotic.
Sure, Jona may have had her arguments written about the Avery subject, But, Unless Jona kidnapped Avery and still refuses to return him, which I doubt, she did not engineer the "coup" which you speak.
Third, the Avery fiasco did not cause the overall end to be a weakened Barons Council, the Barons Council was incredibly weak when Avery took over. Again, Jona was not the cause of that.
Fourth, and I qoute.."As for her history of the DoS, its traditions, and so on. Who other then historians cares? " If you don't care about the History and Traditions of the DoS and Arena, Andrew, frankly, you don't belong here. If you do not care, then you most certainly are a wretch who is completely self serving. The fact is, you *should* care about the history and traditions. It is an Important part of the Arena. In fact, it can help assist
you to not make mistakes by learning from the past.
Don't say blanket statements like "Who other than the historians care" There's a reason it's History. And your statement has quickly put you in a light in my eyes as someone who I won't hold any respect for.
You say "I have no intention of entering the Arena as a combatant choosing to emulate Jonalyn in this regard" and I say, I hope you don't enter the Arena at all.
It's no secret that I disagree with a majority of what Jonalyn says, and I dislike how she tends to constantly insult and berate all those simply because they disagree with her.
But your ignorance simply astounds me. I guess there are some people who will continue to surprise me when I least expect it.
G
Date: 01 Jul 2000 21:59:34 EDT
Ahem.
First, just what is an "Online group?"
Second, though I may agree with some of the things you say, some of which being the source of dissent.. I have to say, Andrew, that you're pretty idiotic.
Sure, Jona may have had her arguments written about the Avery subject, But, Unless Jona kidnapped Avery and still refuses to return him, which I doubt, she did not engineer the "coup" which you speak.
Third, the Avery fiasco did not cause the overall end to be a weakened Barons Council, the Barons Council was incredibly weak when Avery took over. Again, Jona was not the cause of that.
Fourth, and I qoute.."As for her history of the DoS, its traditions, and so on. Who other then historians cares? " If you don't care about the History and Traditions of the DoS and Arena, Andrew, frankly, you don't belong here. If you do not care, then you most certainly are a wretch who is completely self serving. The fact is, you *should* care about the history and traditions. It is an Important part of the Arena. In fact, it can help assist
you to not make mistakes by learning from the past.
Don't say blanket statements like "Who other than the historians care" There's a reason it's History. And your statement has quickly put you in a light in my eyes as someone who I won't hold any respect for.
You say "I have no intention of entering the Arena as a combatant choosing to emulate Jonalyn in this regard" and I say, I hope you don't enter the Arena at all.
It's no secret that I disagree with a majority of what Jonalyn says, and I dislike how she tends to constantly insult and berate all those simply because they disagree with her.
But your ignorance simply astounds me. I guess there are some people who will continue to surprise me when I least expect it.
G
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From: andrewpyre@aol.com (AndrewPyre)
Date: 01 Jul 2000 22:39:53 EDT
My Dear Mr. G.
One has to wonder at the intellectual prowess of someone who chooses to sign their correspondence with only an initial. I would have assumed that your teachers and betters had taught you that a person should use their full name. By the way, the original missive in the Thread was unsigned so I am mildly curious as to how you made the connection. You are to be congratulated on that one point since it is indeed my posting.
Several people have both publically and privately stated that the entire issue with Avery would have been resolved without bitterness and the dissent if Jonalyn had kept her meddling fingers out of it. She chose to make the issue out of it and all that transpired afterwards can be laid at her doorstep. She has created for herself some bitter and vengeful enemies out of it, which is not a disputable fact.
I beg to differ in what you stated about the council being weak. Avery had done a remarkable feat in uniting all the DoS, DoF, and DoM under his benevolent rule. The Barons for the most part supported him with only one or two being renegade. The council was far stronger then. Now it is at odds with itself and not very effective in its dealing with the body politic.
Primus: I repeat only Historians really care about history. That is a painfully obvious fact when you consider that in our relations with each other and our beloved world we repeat the same old mistakes time and again.
Secondus: Jonalyn has vast records she has acquired over the years and hovers over them like a fretful librarian not willing to let go of them for fear they may be damaged. She uses these records as a weapon and in support of her versions of the history of DoS. It is true she has turned some of them over to various sources, but she still holds on to many of them. Two more points about History, a bit waggish but appropriate perhaps. History is for
the most part written only by the winners hence the view is distorted a bit. Also History is as a wag once said...His Story...not mine. :chuckles dryly: Now on to other things.
Who might you be to tell me not to make blanket statements? Your respect or lack of it towards my person is a matter of complete indifference sir. Indeed your desires as to whether I should or should not enter the arena is just so much dust on the wind. I only do the things that please me and when it pleases me to enter the arena I will do so.
Finally, if you are going to seriously expect me discourse with you please upgrade your invective a bit. Words like idiot, ignorance, etc. are so overdone don't you think?
Now run along and come back when you are better able to express yourself
Your humble servant,
Andrew Pyre
Date: 01 Jul 2000 22:39:53 EDT
My Dear Mr. G.
One has to wonder at the intellectual prowess of someone who chooses to sign their correspondence with only an initial. I would have assumed that your teachers and betters had taught you that a person should use their full name. By the way, the original missive in the Thread was unsigned so I am mildly curious as to how you made the connection. You are to be congratulated on that one point since it is indeed my posting.
Several people have both publically and privately stated that the entire issue with Avery would have been resolved without bitterness and the dissent if Jonalyn had kept her meddling fingers out of it. She chose to make the issue out of it and all that transpired afterwards can be laid at her doorstep. She has created for herself some bitter and vengeful enemies out of it, which is not a disputable fact.
I beg to differ in what you stated about the council being weak. Avery had done a remarkable feat in uniting all the DoS, DoF, and DoM under his benevolent rule. The Barons for the most part supported him with only one or two being renegade. The council was far stronger then. Now it is at odds with itself and not very effective in its dealing with the body politic.
Primus: I repeat only Historians really care about history. That is a painfully obvious fact when you consider that in our relations with each other and our beloved world we repeat the same old mistakes time and again.
Secondus: Jonalyn has vast records she has acquired over the years and hovers over them like a fretful librarian not willing to let go of them for fear they may be damaged. She uses these records as a weapon and in support of her versions of the history of DoS. It is true she has turned some of them over to various sources, but she still holds on to many of them. Two more points about History, a bit waggish but appropriate perhaps. History is for
the most part written only by the winners hence the view is distorted a bit. Also History is as a wag once said...His Story...not mine. :chuckles dryly: Now on to other things.
Who might you be to tell me not to make blanket statements? Your respect or lack of it towards my person is a matter of complete indifference sir. Indeed your desires as to whether I should or should not enter the arena is just so much dust on the wind. I only do the things that please me and when it pleases me to enter the arena I will do so.
Finally, if you are going to seriously expect me discourse with you please upgrade your invective a bit. Words like idiot, ignorance, etc. are so overdone don't you think?
Now run along and come back when you are better able to express yourself
Your humble servant,
Andrew Pyre
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 01 Jul 2000 22:46:29 EDT
Simply...
This has to be the stupidest guy to have ever stepped foot on Rhydin. I'm not sure if he knows his ass from his elbow.
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Date: 01 Jul 2000 22:46:29 EDT
Simply...
This has to be the stupidest guy to have ever stepped foot on Rhydin. I'm not sure if he knows his ass from his elbow.
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From: andrewpyre@aol.com (AndrewPyre)
Date: 01 Jul 2000 23:30:32 EDT
My Dear Drey Starke,
You of all people are the least significant in the events that go on around you. Indeed you are the classic nonparticipant. Suffering as you are from a malaise of the spirit and the physical degeneration your undergoing it is but a matter of time until you become a nonperson. Hence I take no umbrage at your remarks, you have much on your plate as it is and for me to engage you intellectually would be an insult to both of us.
There is a cure for your condition. But, perhaps you are too far gone into the apathy that controls your actions. In any event, unless you become more of a challenge to me please do not waste your time on pointless and ineffective attempts to chide me.
Your humble servant
Andrew Pyre
Date: 01 Jul 2000 23:30:32 EDT
My Dear Drey Starke,
You of all people are the least significant in the events that go on around you. Indeed you are the classic nonparticipant. Suffering as you are from a malaise of the spirit and the physical degeneration your undergoing it is but a matter of time until you become a nonperson. Hence I take no umbrage at your remarks, you have much on your plate as it is and for me to engage you intellectually would be an insult to both of us.
There is a cure for your condition. But, perhaps you are too far gone into the apathy that controls your actions. In any event, unless you become more of a challenge to me please do not waste your time on pointless and ineffective attempts to chide me.
Your humble servant
Andrew Pyre
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 01 Jul 2000 23:49:53 EDT
Let me grace you once more...
>Indeed you are the classic nonparticipant.
A'ight, let's turn the tables and I'll be the psychiatrist. First off, if I'm a "classic" nonparticipant, than these postings of yours are just a blatant cry for attention. Notice your whole post was directed mainly at Jonalyn, and yet you seem to be getting feedback from people far from Jonalyn. Even me. I don't even like Jonalyn.
You're a nobody and every single word you say makes absolutely no sense. What in the hell is an "Online Group?" You're certainly not the brightest crayon in the box.
Secondly, just from reading that drivel you wrote I can honestly say you've not an ounce of "intellectual" abilities in that fat head of yours. The IQ of the arena has just fallen to room temperature from your recent perfomances. Tell me, before I'm infected, what piece of horse manure did you form from?
And lastly, the only condition I'd be suffering from would be your awful stench that you leave about the vicinity of the Arena. Perchance if you actually "showed" your face once in a while instead of hiding behind the boards (sorry if I sound hypocritical, but I did defend this guy once... I take that back.) for safety. I'll duel you. One on one, wagering a leg. Whoever loses, loses a leg. How about it?
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Date: 01 Jul 2000 23:49:53 EDT
Let me grace you once more...
>Indeed you are the classic nonparticipant.
A'ight, let's turn the tables and I'll be the psychiatrist. First off, if I'm a "classic" nonparticipant, than these postings of yours are just a blatant cry for attention. Notice your whole post was directed mainly at Jonalyn, and yet you seem to be getting feedback from people far from Jonalyn. Even me. I don't even like Jonalyn.
You're a nobody and every single word you say makes absolutely no sense. What in the hell is an "Online Group?" You're certainly not the brightest crayon in the box.
Secondly, just from reading that drivel you wrote I can honestly say you've not an ounce of "intellectual" abilities in that fat head of yours. The IQ of the arena has just fallen to room temperature from your recent perfomances. Tell me, before I'm infected, what piece of horse manure did you form from?
And lastly, the only condition I'd be suffering from would be your awful stench that you leave about the vicinity of the Arena. Perchance if you actually "showed" your face once in a while instead of hiding behind the boards (sorry if I sound hypocritical, but I did defend this guy once... I take that back.) for safety. I'll duel you. One on one, wagering a leg. Whoever loses, loses a leg. How about it?
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From: andrewpyre@aol.com (AndrewPyre)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 00:03:45 EDT
My Dear Drey Starke
As I said earlier you are far to sick for me to add more pain to your life. The idea of dueling you is another example of your sickness at work on your mind. In some of your brief moments of clarity ask yourself why you have this fondness for dismembering body parts. I would suspect it has to do with an outward manifestation of the splitting of your mind.
You are sick and I do forgive you, unfortunately others will not. I will endeavor to protect you as best I can, but do watch your back. You have probably noted how many of your erstwhile friends have abandoned you in favor of Rix. If you have not, then perhaps you should.
Your humble servant
Andrew Pyre
Date: 02 Jul 2000 00:03:45 EDT
My Dear Drey Starke
As I said earlier you are far to sick for me to add more pain to your life. The idea of dueling you is another example of your sickness at work on your mind. In some of your brief moments of clarity ask yourself why you have this fondness for dismembering body parts. I would suspect it has to do with an outward manifestation of the splitting of your mind.
You are sick and I do forgive you, unfortunately others will not. I will endeavor to protect you as best I can, but do watch your back. You have probably noted how many of your erstwhile friends have abandoned you in favor of Rix. If you have not, then perhaps you should.
Your humble servant
Andrew Pyre
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 00:32:55 EDT
My dear person who is an insignificant cog in the process of life as we know it...
One doesn't have to wonder of the intellectual prowess of someone who chooses to sign their correspondence with only an initial when the person who signs is known by said initial by more than the majority of people who indeed frequents the Arena and surroundings.
Were I to sign my full name taught to me by teachers and parents, not only would you have the trouble of understanding, spelling, and pronouncing it, but I would get writers cramp. I am well known around the arena as a single letter, mainly because that is all that is needed to be known to know who I am, unlike others who go yammering on about instances they know nothing about.
You state that people have publicly and privately stated that the entire Avery issue would have been resolved without bitterness had Jonalyn kept out of it. First, I ask you "which people?" If indeed they have publicly stated that, then there should be no trouble of your naming them. As for the private ones, I could ask you who you spoke to about it, but that would probably be fruitless for several reasons. One being I don't think you have
spoken to anyone about it, and secondly, in your attempt at making a respectful name for yourself, you would deny us of knowing the names "in respect for their privacy." I do not dispute the fact that Jona has enemies, we all have. I dispute the fact that you've actually taken time to speak to these individuals, and that any of those individuals are or were part of the council you mention.
You may beg to differ about the council being weak, but all one has to do is take a look at the names of the individuals on the council at the time Avery was Overlord to decide of it's strength. The majority of the council at the time was composed of small minded individuals, and due to who they were, the council was indeed weak.
I ask you, "How did Avery unite the DoS, DoF, and DoM under his benevolent rule?" What did he do other than become the first person to hold the top title in each of the three sports? That is not uniting them. That is simply holding the top title in three sports. To say that it is uniting them is far from the truth.
The Barons, for the most part, supported him, you say. Most people who become Loyal Barons do so for the sole purpose of protection. In other words, they are afraid of being challenged often. I, myself, was a Loyal Baron, but that is simply because Avery was, and is, a friend. I doubt others were the same.
You state that the council is at odds now. I ask, "How?" I see nothing that makes me believe that the council are at odds, in fact, anything going on currently is nothing that hasn't happened before. Only the personalities of those holding the Barons titles are weak individuals, making the council weak. As it was under Avery.
You say Only historians really care about history. That is a false statement as obviously I care about the history. I am not a historian. I assure you others in the Arena care about the history, as well, and they are not historians. Therefore, your statement is false as fact, and only gains validity as an opinion.
You go on about Jonalyn, once more. Have you bothered to ask Jonalyn, yourself, about the history in a polite manor to find if she would release them to you for your perusal? I doubt that. History is written by the winners, indeed. However, I also state that here in the Arena, there are no absolute winners. Most who took place in the actual history of the Arena are currently alive today to either prove or disprove of incidents which may or may
not have taken place in the past. If your claim is that Jonalyn may have some historical records which she would tamper with for her own ends, that is one thing, but were she to provide information that was tampered to the public would be a ridiculous notion for the simple fact that there will always be someone who was there as well. If Jona wished to provide some information regarding myself and it was false, believe me, I would be there calling
her a liar. And I doubt she'd make that kind of information public. Again, I may not like Jona's tactics, sometimes, but I do give her credit for not being stupid.
My blanket statements of you being one who should not enter the Arena is as follows. The Arena has enough fools and idiots that it does not require the presence of another. You, sir, fall into that category. Your jabbering upon this board is more proof of such.
Words like idiot, ignorance, etc., are used by myself so that small minded and unintelligent individuals, such as yourself, are sure to understand them and not mistake them for other than what they are. After all, I may not be a well educated man, but I have no qualms about speaking my mind and exactly how I feel about something or someone. I just tend to do it with the least amount of syllables to be sure that they're understood. Believe me, I
could use more colorful metaphors and larger words, but it'd be lost on the populace.
Now, you run along and come back when you gain some manner of understanding and comprehension of the area you post such ignorant ramblings. After all, it is better to be thought of as a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Or, in your case, put pen to paper.
G.
And if you still don't know who the letter stands for, do an intelligent thing and ask around. I won't hold your hand.
Date: 02 Jul 2000 00:32:55 EDT
My dear person who is an insignificant cog in the process of life as we know it...
One doesn't have to wonder of the intellectual prowess of someone who chooses to sign their correspondence with only an initial when the person who signs is known by said initial by more than the majority of people who indeed frequents the Arena and surroundings.
Were I to sign my full name taught to me by teachers and parents, not only would you have the trouble of understanding, spelling, and pronouncing it, but I would get writers cramp. I am well known around the arena as a single letter, mainly because that is all that is needed to be known to know who I am, unlike others who go yammering on about instances they know nothing about.
You state that people have publicly and privately stated that the entire Avery issue would have been resolved without bitterness had Jonalyn kept out of it. First, I ask you "which people?" If indeed they have publicly stated that, then there should be no trouble of your naming them. As for the private ones, I could ask you who you spoke to about it, but that would probably be fruitless for several reasons. One being I don't think you have
spoken to anyone about it, and secondly, in your attempt at making a respectful name for yourself, you would deny us of knowing the names "in respect for their privacy." I do not dispute the fact that Jona has enemies, we all have. I dispute the fact that you've actually taken time to speak to these individuals, and that any of those individuals are or were part of the council you mention.
You may beg to differ about the council being weak, but all one has to do is take a look at the names of the individuals on the council at the time Avery was Overlord to decide of it's strength. The majority of the council at the time was composed of small minded individuals, and due to who they were, the council was indeed weak.
I ask you, "How did Avery unite the DoS, DoF, and DoM under his benevolent rule?" What did he do other than become the first person to hold the top title in each of the three sports? That is not uniting them. That is simply holding the top title in three sports. To say that it is uniting them is far from the truth.
The Barons, for the most part, supported him, you say. Most people who become Loyal Barons do so for the sole purpose of protection. In other words, they are afraid of being challenged often. I, myself, was a Loyal Baron, but that is simply because Avery was, and is, a friend. I doubt others were the same.
You state that the council is at odds now. I ask, "How?" I see nothing that makes me believe that the council are at odds, in fact, anything going on currently is nothing that hasn't happened before. Only the personalities of those holding the Barons titles are weak individuals, making the council weak. As it was under Avery.
You say Only historians really care about history. That is a false statement as obviously I care about the history. I am not a historian. I assure you others in the Arena care about the history, as well, and they are not historians. Therefore, your statement is false as fact, and only gains validity as an opinion.
You go on about Jonalyn, once more. Have you bothered to ask Jonalyn, yourself, about the history in a polite manor to find if she would release them to you for your perusal? I doubt that. History is written by the winners, indeed. However, I also state that here in the Arena, there are no absolute winners. Most who took place in the actual history of the Arena are currently alive today to either prove or disprove of incidents which may or may
not have taken place in the past. If your claim is that Jonalyn may have some historical records which she would tamper with for her own ends, that is one thing, but were she to provide information that was tampered to the public would be a ridiculous notion for the simple fact that there will always be someone who was there as well. If Jona wished to provide some information regarding myself and it was false, believe me, I would be there calling
her a liar. And I doubt she'd make that kind of information public. Again, I may not like Jona's tactics, sometimes, but I do give her credit for not being stupid.
My blanket statements of you being one who should not enter the Arena is as follows. The Arena has enough fools and idiots that it does not require the presence of another. You, sir, fall into that category. Your jabbering upon this board is more proof of such.
Words like idiot, ignorance, etc., are used by myself so that small minded and unintelligent individuals, such as yourself, are sure to understand them and not mistake them for other than what they are. After all, I may not be a well educated man, but I have no qualms about speaking my mind and exactly how I feel about something or someone. I just tend to do it with the least amount of syllables to be sure that they're understood. Believe me, I
could use more colorful metaphors and larger words, but it'd be lost on the populace.
Now, you run along and come back when you gain some manner of understanding and comprehension of the area you post such ignorant ramblings. After all, it is better to be thought of as a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Or, in your case, put pen to paper.
G.
And if you still don't know who the letter stands for, do an intelligent thing and ask around. I won't hold your hand.
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From: deluthan@aol.com (Deluthan)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 01:34:38 EDT
>Finally, if you are going to seriously expect me discourse with you please
>upgrade your invective a bit. Words like idiot, ignorance, etc. are so
>overdone don't you think?
He can't. That's what he bases all his arguments on.
Del
Date: 02 Jul 2000 01:34:38 EDT
>Finally, if you are going to seriously expect me discourse with you please
>upgrade your invective a bit. Words like idiot, ignorance, etc. are so
>overdone don't you think?
He can't. That's what he bases all his arguments on.
Del
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From: drakewyni@aol.com (Drakewyn I)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 02:29:08 EDT
Before my name gets dragged into this...
It should be clearly noted that, while I do believe Starfare did indeed have some influence upon some of the sitting Barons during the time of Baron Starke's challenge to Overlord Shiv Blade... she was certainly not the architect behind the matter of the Overlord being summarily removed from his position.
The strongest body of evidence points to Baron Medici-Giovanni, as senior Baron.
As for "only historians care about history"... I suppose that makes me a historian. Otherwise I would not have made the statements I have in the past.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon.
Date: 02 Jul 2000 02:29:08 EDT
Before my name gets dragged into this...
It should be clearly noted that, while I do believe Starfare did indeed have some influence upon some of the sitting Barons during the time of Baron Starke's challenge to Overlord Shiv Blade... she was certainly not the architect behind the matter of the Overlord being summarily removed from his position.
The strongest body of evidence points to Baron Medici-Giovanni, as senior Baron.
As for "only historians care about history"... I suppose that makes me a historian. Otherwise I would not have made the statements I have in the past.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon.
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From: zenithi@aol.com (Zenith I)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 03:38:06 EDT
I know the first time this guy wrote something I said he had guts to do such a thing.
And while he did, and probably still does, it's seeming more apparent that's he's just digging himself in deeper holes. I don't care if he hasn't been around very long, as long as he speaks the truth; he's strayed far from that realm as of these latest remarks, however.
Indeed, it seems he is guilty of the same vice he pronounces Jonalyn as committing: Insult and rebuke of those who disagree.
Date: 02 Jul 2000 03:38:06 EDT
I know the first time this guy wrote something I said he had guts to do such a thing.
And while he did, and probably still does, it's seeming more apparent that's he's just digging himself in deeper holes. I don't care if he hasn't been around very long, as long as he speaks the truth; he's strayed far from that realm as of these latest remarks, however.
Indeed, it seems he is guilty of the same vice he pronounces Jonalyn as committing: Insult and rebuke of those who disagree.
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 04:19:32 EDT
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>He can't. That's what he bases all his arguments on.
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>Del
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Case in point of most of my arguments of the lack of intelligence and the weak state of the Barons that exist currently.
G
Date: 02 Jul 2000 04:19:32 EDT
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>He can't. That's what he bases all his arguments on.
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>Del
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Case in point of most of my arguments of the lack of intelligence and the weak state of the Barons that exist currently.
G
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From: bleysofglory@aol.com (Bleys of Glory)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 05:36:13 EDT
>As for her history of the DoS, its traditions, and so on. Who other then
>historians cares?
I care. Of course, it is completely possible that is just because I remember some of those things. Still, there are those of us it matters to.
Bleys
Date: 02 Jul 2000 05:36:13 EDT
>As for her history of the DoS, its traditions, and so on. Who other then
>historians cares?
I care. Of course, it is completely possible that is just because I remember some of those things. Still, there are those of us it matters to.
Bleys
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 11:01:31 EDT
G,
Who's to say you weren't weak?
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
Date: 02 Jul 2000 11:01:31 EDT
G,
Who's to say you weren't weak?
- Drey D'erest Sanchez SIZE=5 PTSIZE=16>Starke
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From: andrewpyre@aol.com (AndrewPyre)
Date: 02 Jul 2000 11:10:02 EDT
My Dear Lady Drake,
You show excellent judgement in not allowing yourself to become involved in this particular thread. One would hope that you continue to exercise that good judgement in the future.
Your humble servant,
Andrew Pyre
Date: 02 Jul 2000 11:10:02 EDT
My Dear Lady Drake,
You show excellent judgement in not allowing yourself to become involved in this particular thread. One would hope that you continue to exercise that good judgement in the future.
Your humble servant,
Andrew Pyre