From: xvevan@aol.com (XvEvan)
Date: 17 Apr 2001 19:52:55 EDT
"... Partakers in the vote:
I wish to vote for the appointment of Ecore as the Champion due to his statement of adding ten peer wins to make the challenge legal on both sides. If the challenger wins, the ring is taken and if Ecore wins, the ring is taken. I find this more satisfying because if the challenger does lose against the Champion(without adding 10 PWs), the 6th Baron Ring shall sit and wait for the next Warlord Tournament. With Ecore's
willingness to place ten peers along aide the challenger, the ring shall be taken no matter the matches outcome.
-Evan Rush Rynth ... "
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From: xvevan@aol.com (XvEvan)
Date: 17 Apr 2001 20:38:14 EDT
"... Council,
While I have not decided upon my vote, I would strongly oppose letting Ecore be the champion with the chance at winning the ring. That would be essentially letting him challenge someone who is not a Baron for the title of Baron. That is neither fair nor sensible, in my mind at least.
-Galin Taelca
Baron Taelca:
The word Fair was taken out when Jeff failed to respond to the challenge in time. Appointing a Warlord to duel as a Champion is still not a Baron in your view therefor it is a lose lose situation and not worth arguing. In my opionion, what happens to the 6th Barons Ring in the end is most important. Allowing the ring to lay as a prize is not my taste. Simply put.
-Evan Rush Rynth ..."
Date: 17 Apr 2001 20:38:14 EDT
"... Council,
While I have not decided upon my vote, I would strongly oppose letting Ecore be the champion with the chance at winning the ring. That would be essentially letting him challenge someone who is not a Baron for the title of Baron. That is neither fair nor sensible, in my mind at least.
-Galin Taelca
Baron Taelca:
The word Fair was taken out when Jeff failed to respond to the challenge in time. Appointing a Warlord to duel as a Champion is still not a Baron in your view therefor it is a lose lose situation and not worth arguing. In my opionion, what happens to the 6th Barons Ring in the end is most important. Allowing the ring to lay as a prize is not my taste. Simply put.
-Evan Rush Rynth ..."
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 18 Apr 2001 01:40:13 EDT
If Ecore has not pressed challenge for the ring, then I don't see why allowing him to challenge for it would be considered an option.
Let's not get sloppy and let people start challenging for a ring that's in council's deliberation. I will admit the idea has merit, but feel it doesn't adhere to my own guidelines of what the circumstances are. That's my take.
Var Medici-Giovanni
Proud Father, Proud Husband
Date: 18 Apr 2001 01:40:13 EDT
If Ecore has not pressed challenge for the ring, then I don't see why allowing him to challenge for it would be considered an option.
Let's not get sloppy and let people start challenging for a ring that's in council's deliberation. I will admit the idea has merit, but feel it doesn't adhere to my own guidelines of what the circumstances are. That's my take.
Var Medici-Giovanni
Proud Father, Proud Husband
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From: xvevan@aol.com (XvEvan)
Date: 18 Apr 2001 03:35:59 EDT
> If Ecore has not pressed challenge for the ring, then I don't see why
>allowing him to challenge for it would be considered an option.
>
> Let's not get sloppy and let people start challenging for a ring that's in
>council's deliberation. I will admit the idea has merit, but feel it doesn't
>adhere to my own guidelines of what the circumstances are. That's my take.
>
> Var Medici-Giovanni
> Proud Father, Proud Husband
>
The Elfairy grinned before penning.
I have seen the Baron's Council do many of things. This idea is not popular so I consider this debate closed.
I still get to see a good show either way if I can make the time.
-Evan Rush Rynth
Date: 18 Apr 2001 03:35:59 EDT
> If Ecore has not pressed challenge for the ring, then I don't see why
>allowing him to challenge for it would be considered an option.
>
> Let's not get sloppy and let people start challenging for a ring that's in
>council's deliberation. I will admit the idea has merit, but feel it doesn't
>adhere to my own guidelines of what the circumstances are. That's my take.
>
> Var Medici-Giovanni
> Proud Father, Proud Husband
>
The Elfairy grinned before penning.
I have seen the Baron's Council do many of things. This idea is not popular so I consider this debate closed.
I still get to see a good show either way if I can make the time.
-Evan Rush Rynth
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From: elijahbasiauhr@aol.com (Elijah Basia Uhr)
Date: 18 Apr 2001 18:15:19 EDT
I appreciate the sentiment that Baron Evan showed in giving me favor. My intent of my suggestion was more I'd rather see someone holding the 6th Baron ring rather then letting it sit empty till another tourney. I personally don't like Warlord tourney's where there a lot of Baron rings for prizes, and you
see the Intercession Free Overlord challenge get taken as the last option by the person who finished last among the prize winners. I think it's an insult to the crown. You get situations where it's no wonder the Overlord crown gets passed around like a whore in an alley the way it has been often the last couple years. Look at the recent tourney. Two Barons rings and the Overlord challenge. The top two prize winners took the safe route of a
guarnteed prize and title to hold on for a little while that is lower profile than a risk of maybe getting Overlord and then trying to hold it. This happens almost every tourney. So you get a dueler, like the last tourney who finished third among their peers to gain the right to challenge for Overlord. So someone like Lucian holding the title known as the "Supreme Dueler of Swords" lost to someone like Jaycy who represented the "third best"
qualifier in a tournement of Warlords. And people wonder why the Overlord mantle is not looked upon with the same stigma of respect as being held by greats and legends of the sport as it once was. Now Jaycy had her turn so she can add whatever number Overlord she was to her signature to her name on this cork, and lost it within a few weeks to someone already. No offense meant to Jaycy or Lucian but it's the most recent example of how a lot of
people have ended up being Overlord, because they won a tourney prize. Or they otherwise maniuplated the rules while they were a Baron to make the challenge to Overlord. When was the last time a Warlord with 15 peer wins challenged for the Overlord title, and even won? That is what legends are made of, not ending up with the leftover prize that no one wants. Like I said, I don't care if I am chosen as champion, or if I was I got to hold the Baron
ring, but I have always maintaned that the Baron titles should be faught for no matter the circumstances and they should not be allowed to sit empty for another tourney to come about. But that's just my view point.
~Elijah Basia-Uhr~
Warlord of Swords
Date: 18 Apr 2001 18:15:19 EDT
I appreciate the sentiment that Baron Evan showed in giving me favor. My intent of my suggestion was more I'd rather see someone holding the 6th Baron ring rather then letting it sit empty till another tourney. I personally don't like Warlord tourney's where there a lot of Baron rings for prizes, and you
see the Intercession Free Overlord challenge get taken as the last option by the person who finished last among the prize winners. I think it's an insult to the crown. You get situations where it's no wonder the Overlord crown gets passed around like a whore in an alley the way it has been often the last couple years. Look at the recent tourney. Two Barons rings and the Overlord challenge. The top two prize winners took the safe route of a
guarnteed prize and title to hold on for a little while that is lower profile than a risk of maybe getting Overlord and then trying to hold it. This happens almost every tourney. So you get a dueler, like the last tourney who finished third among their peers to gain the right to challenge for Overlord. So someone like Lucian holding the title known as the "Supreme Dueler of Swords" lost to someone like Jaycy who represented the "third best"
qualifier in a tournement of Warlords. And people wonder why the Overlord mantle is not looked upon with the same stigma of respect as being held by greats and legends of the sport as it once was. Now Jaycy had her turn so she can add whatever number Overlord she was to her signature to her name on this cork, and lost it within a few weeks to someone already. No offense meant to Jaycy or Lucian but it's the most recent example of how a lot of
people have ended up being Overlord, because they won a tourney prize. Or they otherwise maniuplated the rules while they were a Baron to make the challenge to Overlord. When was the last time a Warlord with 15 peer wins challenged for the Overlord title, and even won? That is what legends are made of, not ending up with the leftover prize that no one wants. Like I said, I don't care if I am chosen as champion, or if I was I got to hold the Baron
ring, but I have always maintaned that the Baron titles should be faught for no matter the circumstances and they should not be allowed to sit empty for another tourney to come about. But that's just my view point.
~Elijah Basia-Uhr~
Warlord of Swords
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From: darylikyle@aol.com (Daryl I Kyle)
Date: 18 Apr 2001 21:17:21 EDT
Council,
In some ways I agree with Elijah. A Baronial ring takes away from the challenge to the Overlord during WL tourneys. I know that it won't matter but I would think that the champion should be someone who has once held the 6th Ring. If a current Baron of the Council hasn't held the 6th then find a dueler who has and let that dueler defend what he once held.
Date: 18 Apr 2001 21:17:21 EDT
Council,
In some ways I agree with Elijah. A Baronial ring takes away from the challenge to the Overlord during WL tourneys. I know that it won't matter but I would think that the champion should be someone who has once held the 6th Ring. If a current Baron of the Council hasn't held the 6th then find a dueler who has and let that dueler defend what he once held.
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From: damienmortis@aol.com (Damien Mortis)
Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:21:43 EDT
me me me me me me me me me me me me
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Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:21:43 EDT
me me me me me me me me me me me me
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From: darylikyle@aol.com (Daryl I Kyle)
Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:27:25 EDT
::scribbles his name at the bottom of the post::
Daryl Kyle
Former Baron of the 6th
Warlord of the Duel of Swords
Journeyman of the Dream Nights
Apprentice of the Duel of Magic
Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:27:25 EDT
::scribbles his name at the bottom of the post::
Daryl Kyle
Former Baron of the 6th
Warlord of the Duel of Swords
Journeyman of the Dream Nights
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From: leodelorenzo@aol.com (Leo De Lorenzo)
Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:57:51 EDT
Elijah,
This past Warlord Tournament, I did not feel I was fit to be the leader of this community. The idea of being a Baron again suited me more. Perhaps someday I will be ready, but I was not at that time. To add to my decision, Lucian is on my team for the dueling league, and I would not have felt right dueling him for such an important position.
General Leonardo Tassadar de Lorenzo
Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:57:51 EDT
Elijah,
This past Warlord Tournament, I did not feel I was fit to be the leader of this community. The idea of being a Baron again suited me more. Perhaps someday I will be ready, but I was not at that time. To add to my decision, Lucian is on my team for the dueling league, and I would not have felt right dueling him for such an important position.
General Leonardo Tassadar de Lorenzo