From: sartanz@aol.com (Sartan Z)
Date: 03 Jan 2002 19:37:21 EST
First, I'd like to apologize for not having posted a message sooner. I've spent the last few days recovering from the actual challenge match itself.
I'd like to thank former Overlord Ralez for his conduct before, during, and after the challenge. The concern he showed for my injuries is greatly appreciated and I can only hope my condition did not affect his dueling.
As to stances and official policies, I prefer not to set anything in stone. I'll judge every situation as its own and take appropriate action. Will I be using the Test of Worthiness or Intercessions? Possibly.
Finally, I'd like to make one point to the people who presume to think I'm controlled by my sword in some way. No offense intended but, rather than paying heed to Ian's speculations, perhaps you should actually ask me. Yes, Vengeance is my burden but I, and I alone, control my actions and decisions.
Sartan
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From: sgtsneggle@aol.com (SgtSneggle)
Date: 03 Jan 2002 20:47:57 EST
Sartan,
I don't know you that well, but good luck to you in holding on to the title.
Sgt. Sneggle
Date: 03 Jan 2002 20:47:57 EST
Sartan,
I don't know you that well, but good luck to you in holding on to the title.
Sgt. Sneggle
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From: ianmackenzie@aol.com (Ian MacKenzie)
Date: 04 Jan 2002 09:06:35 EST
Speculations? Indeed.
One may certainly draw one's own conclusions from the fact that a dueler who has never before evidenced any inability to be healed by the Ward of Gondar suddenly finding himself on the verge of bleeding to death due to a relatively minor strike to his leg.
One may certainly draw one's own conclusions as to the cause of one's performance visibly deteriorating each time he fails to strike his opponent, even if such failure is a defensive maneuver which scores a full point.
And one may certainly draw one's own conclusions regarding the mysterious apparent death of the blade's former owner in eerily similar circumstances.
I do not suggest, Overlord, that the blade is controlling your actions. I do, however, suggest that it is controlling your life. And I do mean that in both the literal and figurative senses. By all appearances, it is a living thing, and a parasite, and evil, and I fear that at some point, we'll be bearing your lifeless form from the ring just as Dalamar's was these years past.
Destroy the damn thing, before it's too late. Letting it kill you, too, does not do the service to Dalamar's memory one presumes you consider to be your burden.
Regards,
Ian Rex.
Date: 04 Jan 2002 09:06:35 EST
Speculations? Indeed.
One may certainly draw one's own conclusions from the fact that a dueler who has never before evidenced any inability to be healed by the Ward of Gondar suddenly finding himself on the verge of bleeding to death due to a relatively minor strike to his leg.
One may certainly draw one's own conclusions as to the cause of one's performance visibly deteriorating each time he fails to strike his opponent, even if such failure is a defensive maneuver which scores a full point.
And one may certainly draw one's own conclusions regarding the mysterious apparent death of the blade's former owner in eerily similar circumstances.
I do not suggest, Overlord, that the blade is controlling your actions. I do, however, suggest that it is controlling your life. And I do mean that in both the literal and figurative senses. By all appearances, it is a living thing, and a parasite, and evil, and I fear that at some point, we'll be bearing your lifeless form from the ring just as Dalamar's was these years past.
Destroy the damn thing, before it's too late. Letting it kill you, too, does not do the service to Dalamar's memory one presumes you consider to be your burden.
Regards,
Ian Rex.
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From: sidarthax@aol.com (Sidartha x)
Date: 04 Jan 2002 17:11:59 EST
Destroying it may be just as dangerous, Ian. Who knows what could be loosed upon the Arena when Vengeance is broken? Who knows what foul spirit is being suppressed, albeit incompletely, within the metal of that blade?
I propose attempting to bind the thing and locking it away where no one else can be harmed by it.
~Sidartha Elgarette
Date: 04 Jan 2002 17:11:59 EST
Destroying it may be just as dangerous, Ian. Who knows what could be loosed upon the Arena when Vengeance is broken? Who knows what foul spirit is being suppressed, albeit incompletely, within the metal of that blade?
I propose attempting to bind the thing and locking it away where no one else can be harmed by it.
~Sidartha Elgarette
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From: karenwilder@aol.com (Karen Wilder)
Date: 04 Jan 2002 21:52:01 EST
Indeed, ye may be correct Lady Elgarette.
As a representative o' th' First Catholic Church of RhyDin, I do extend th' offer o' th' Church tae place this cursed thing intae th' Vault of Ages. There is shall be guarded by such magics as th' Knights Templar have developed o'er th' years.
I do also believe thet Laird MacKenzie has th' ability tae put such a thing away from the ken of man.
If ye willnae accept th' offer o' th' Church, place th' thing intae th' care o' Laird MacKenzie... afor it brings about yer doom.
Lady Karen Wilder
Knight Templar
Renegade Baroness of the Twelfth
Date: 04 Jan 2002 21:52:01 EST
Indeed, ye may be correct Lady Elgarette.
As a representative o' th' First Catholic Church of RhyDin, I do extend th' offer o' th' Church tae place this cursed thing intae th' Vault of Ages. There is shall be guarded by such magics as th' Knights Templar have developed o'er th' years.
I do also believe thet Laird MacKenzie has th' ability tae put such a thing away from the ken of man.
If ye willnae accept th' offer o' th' Church, place th' thing intae th' care o' Laird MacKenzie... afor it brings about yer doom.
Lady Karen Wilder
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From: sorceressdalila@aol.com (Sorceress Dalila)
Date: 01 Feb 2002 22:00:19 EST
::The small pile of notes has been purposely removed, placed in a more noticeable position, with an addition.::
Dear people, I would offer another suggestion. I am, as a few of you know, interested in legends, myths, and items and notes of historical value. I have never been the stolid, hut- or tower-dwelling mage of tales, reclusive to an extreme with no time for anything but studies. I have, however, had experience with many a magical item, some (although relatively few) cursed, several of not inconsiderable strength.
It has been my observation that when dealing with powerful items of magic, especially those believed to house evil power, it does not serve the common good to lock it away in a dusty vault, no matter how well guarded. Inevitably, in time, the vault will be abandoned or overcome. In such a circumstance, anything held within will either be stolen, removed, or left for future treasure hunters. If the item in question is removed, then it must travel
to another safe location; in such travels, the danger to surrounding areas is exacerbated by the vulnerability of the item to theft. Were such a happening to occur, it would fall into the worst hands eventually. The other two possibilities will most often lead to the same conclusion.
Allowing its power to be used unchecked is also a dangerous proposal, although in this instance it would seem that it is a better option. According to those close to Dalamar during his reign, observations of he and Sartan during their respective times wielding the blade, and some speculation based on such evidence, it would appear that the weapon is not designed to harm those it is used against. Only the wielder is at risk.
Given that, I am loathe to make any sort of request or demand of Sartan regarding the blade, nor would I ask anyone else to do so. It may, however, be best for the common good if the blade is taken to a respected sage with a laboratory properly designed for the study of such objects. If this is done, it may be possible to determine the power of whatever enchantment lies within the steel, and the depth to which it lies. The length of time for which
it has been used in the duels alone would suggest that removing the magic would be difficult, if not impossible, but placing some sort of control over the weapon's power may be a legitimate solution. If no such person is found, or none agreeable to taking on such a task, I am capable of creating a basic workshop in order to study Vengeance further. I must stress that I am not extremely well-trained or experienced in such endeavors, and I cannot
guarantee any results. For the sake of the good, I would be willing, but I am not the best choice for the job.
The majority of you do not know me, and have little reason to trust my words. That is fine. I have spent the past month researching the history of this blade, however, and would be remiss in not bringing my findings regarding an apparent implement of evil to light. I cannot control the actions of those who read this. My hope is only that these words be taken under consideration before a tragedy occurs.
Dalila of the Zann Esu
Date: 01 Feb 2002 22:00:19 EST
::The small pile of notes has been purposely removed, placed in a more noticeable position, with an addition.::
Dear people, I would offer another suggestion. I am, as a few of you know, interested in legends, myths, and items and notes of historical value. I have never been the stolid, hut- or tower-dwelling mage of tales, reclusive to an extreme with no time for anything but studies. I have, however, had experience with many a magical item, some (although relatively few) cursed, several of not inconsiderable strength.
It has been my observation that when dealing with powerful items of magic, especially those believed to house evil power, it does not serve the common good to lock it away in a dusty vault, no matter how well guarded. Inevitably, in time, the vault will be abandoned or overcome. In such a circumstance, anything held within will either be stolen, removed, or left for future treasure hunters. If the item in question is removed, then it must travel
to another safe location; in such travels, the danger to surrounding areas is exacerbated by the vulnerability of the item to theft. Were such a happening to occur, it would fall into the worst hands eventually. The other two possibilities will most often lead to the same conclusion.
Allowing its power to be used unchecked is also a dangerous proposal, although in this instance it would seem that it is a better option. According to those close to Dalamar during his reign, observations of he and Sartan during their respective times wielding the blade, and some speculation based on such evidence, it would appear that the weapon is not designed to harm those it is used against. Only the wielder is at risk.
Given that, I am loathe to make any sort of request or demand of Sartan regarding the blade, nor would I ask anyone else to do so. It may, however, be best for the common good if the blade is taken to a respected sage with a laboratory properly designed for the study of such objects. If this is done, it may be possible to determine the power of whatever enchantment lies within the steel, and the depth to which it lies. The length of time for which
it has been used in the duels alone would suggest that removing the magic would be difficult, if not impossible, but placing some sort of control over the weapon's power may be a legitimate solution. If no such person is found, or none agreeable to taking on such a task, I am capable of creating a basic workshop in order to study Vengeance further. I must stress that I am not extremely well-trained or experienced in such endeavors, and I cannot
guarantee any results. For the sake of the good, I would be willing, but I am not the best choice for the job.
The majority of you do not know me, and have little reason to trust my words. That is fine. I have spent the past month researching the history of this blade, however, and would be remiss in not bringing my findings regarding an apparent implement of evil to light. I cannot control the actions of those who read this. My hope is only that these words be taken under consideration before a tragedy occurs.
Dalila of the Zann Esu
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From: elijahbasiauhr@aol.com (Elijah Basia Uhr)
Date: 02 Feb 2002 13:30:48 EST
Sounds very much like the begining of what happened to me when I wielded the dark blade, Draco, the shard of the LyfeStone of Mount Bane. I think we all remember how I was then and what happened to me.
"Rest in Reason, Pursue in Passion"
~Elijah Basia-Uhr~
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Date: 02 Feb 2002 13:30:48 EST
Sounds very much like the begining of what happened to me when I wielded the dark blade, Draco, the shard of the LyfeStone of Mount Bane. I think we all remember how I was then and what happened to me.
"Rest in Reason, Pursue in Passion"
~Elijah Basia-Uhr~
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Feb 2002 15:23:44 EST
Swords don't kill people, people kill people.
-G :D
Date: 02 Feb 2002 15:23:44 EST
Swords don't kill people, people kill people.
-G :D
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 02 Feb 2002 15:32:36 EST
>Swords don't kill people, people kill people.
>
>-G
Actually, G, people don't kill people. Not having enough air for a long enough time, loss of too much blood, failure of operation from important organs kill people. I doubt you will ever see the cause of death in an autopsy to be "person." A person is just a media to speed the process.
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Date: 02 Feb 2002 15:32:36 EST
>Swords don't kill people, people kill people.
>
>-G
Actually, G, people don't kill people. Not having enough air for a long enough time, loss of too much blood, failure of operation from important organs kill people. I doubt you will ever see the cause of death in an autopsy to be "person." A person is just a media to speed the process.
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From: jadeddeath@aol.com (JadedDeath)
Date: 05 Feb 2002 23:17:49 EST
"I think we all remember how I was then and what happened to me."
It's a shot in the dark but -- hmm -- death?
That's usually what dark magicks lead to.
As far as Sartan's sword, it's obviously magicked and cursed too. The Overlord would be better served by a toothpick than that foul steel he insists on wielding.
It's obvious that Sartan has a problem choosing his "right-hands." First his sword nearly kills him, then his own champion turns coat, goes renegade and challenges him.
It makes you wonder if 'the left hand knows what the right is doing'...
-Janella
Date: 05 Feb 2002 23:17:49 EST
"I think we all remember how I was then and what happened to me."
It's a shot in the dark but -- hmm -- death?
That's usually what dark magicks lead to.
As far as Sartan's sword, it's obviously magicked and cursed too. The Overlord would be better served by a toothpick than that foul steel he insists on wielding.
It's obvious that Sartan has a problem choosing his "right-hands." First his sword nearly kills him, then his own champion turns coat, goes renegade and challenges him.
It makes you wonder if 'the left hand knows what the right is doing'...
-Janella
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From: verceterixfavre@aol.com (Verceterix Favre)
Date: 06 Feb 2002 18:28:33 EST
I think it's best we avoid the subject of Sartan's right hand. I don't know where it's been, and don't care to find out.
-Rix
Date: 06 Feb 2002 18:28:33 EST
I think it's best we avoid the subject of Sartan's right hand. I don't know where it's been, and don't care to find out.
-Rix