Date: 12/29/1998 6:55 PM Central Daylight Time
From: RDI Deuce
What's up, what's up, what's up, everybody! This is to inform YOU, the Duel of Fists Patrons, that in one week, we'll be starting up
Tuesday Night Fights!
All the mat-pounding, butt-kicking excitement will from now on be on a fourth night of the week- and maybe this one can snag double digits in duels! We'll see ya there!
The DoF staff
Tuesday Night Fights!
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 12/30/1998 10:40 PM Central Daylight Time
From: LoneWolfBW
The man scratched his chin, considering this. His silver-tipped pen was produced, penning a query below.
"Good sirs.
Wouldn't it be better to work on getting more production from the nights you *do* hold your competitions? After all, look what dilution has done to other major sporting systems the multiverse over. Or is the saying...four of <deleted>...is <deleted>?
With warmest regards,
~ Walker ~
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The man scratched his chin, considering this. His silver-tipped pen was produced, penning a query below.
"Good sirs.
Wouldn't it be better to work on getting more production from the nights you *do* hold your competitions? After all, look what dilution has done to other major sporting systems the multiverse over. Or is the saying...four of <deleted>...is <deleted>?
With warmest regards,
~ Walker ~
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 12/31/1998 9:38 AM Central Daylight Time
From: JakeMHeart
What the hell? ::looking over Walker's post:: Huh? ::re-reads it:: ::does it once again::::Re-reads for a final time.::::trying to figure what the hell that deleted thing is.:: Bah..
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What the hell? ::looking over Walker's post:: Huh? ::re-reads it:: ::does it once again::::Re-reads for a final time.::::trying to figure what the hell that deleted thing is.:: Bah..
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 1/1/1999 12:52 AM Central Daylight Time
From: JammerZ33
I wholeheartedly agree with Walker. A year ago, we had twice as many people coming in each week and everything worked fine. To add a fourth night with half the patrons doesn't make much sense. I left the Outback months ago because it had become a watered-down version of the DoF I came to know in my early days here. This is only going to thin us out even more.
Ryan
From: JammerZ33
I wholeheartedly agree with Walker. A year ago, we had twice as many people coming in each week and everything worked fine. To add a fourth night with half the patrons doesn't make much sense. I left the Outback months ago because it had become a watered-down version of the DoF I came to know in my early days here. This is only going to thin us out even more.
Ryan
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 1/1/1999 2:00 AM Central Daylight Time
From: DzzyFIores
Her unit was slated to have a big party this night. Before she joined them, though, she wanted time to herself. A lot had happened to her this past year, more than she wanted to remember. Why then was she walking alone doing nothing but thinking about those memories? She couldn't answer that question. Reading the new messages placed upon the board, she actually replied. More for distraction than anything else,
she surmised.
Diz here.
This is to Walker and Ryan…who I can only assume are males.
Think tactics boys. You're complaining about people not showing up on the night(s) this place is open, yes? Well, perhaps whoever runs this joint figures that opening a new night might make it easier for more folks to show up. Doesn't that make sense? Yeah…you're right. It does.
And as far as whatever was happening a year ago, that was a year ago. I wasn't around, others were. Now I'm here, now others are gone. Hate to startle you with this at such a late stage, but nothing ever stays the same. If it did, life'd be pretty boring.
As she completed that line, she stopped, pen hovering over the paper she wrote upon. Her life certainly hadn't been the same since the episode on Whiskey Outpost and she really wouldn't have minded had things stayed the same…the way they were before that mission. Cursing softly, she slammed her note to the board, letting the pen fall to and clatter on the wooden floor. So much for the benefit of distractions.
((Author's Note: Some references by this character and the character herself are derived from the movie Starship Troopers))
From: DzzyFIores
Her unit was slated to have a big party this night. Before she joined them, though, she wanted time to herself. A lot had happened to her this past year, more than she wanted to remember. Why then was she walking alone doing nothing but thinking about those memories? She couldn't answer that question. Reading the new messages placed upon the board, she actually replied. More for distraction than anything else,
she surmised.
Diz here.
This is to Walker and Ryan…who I can only assume are males.
Think tactics boys. You're complaining about people not showing up on the night(s) this place is open, yes? Well, perhaps whoever runs this joint figures that opening a new night might make it easier for more folks to show up. Doesn't that make sense? Yeah…you're right. It does.
And as far as whatever was happening a year ago, that was a year ago. I wasn't around, others were. Now I'm here, now others are gone. Hate to startle you with this at such a late stage, but nothing ever stays the same. If it did, life'd be pretty boring.
As she completed that line, she stopped, pen hovering over the paper she wrote upon. Her life certainly hadn't been the same since the episode on Whiskey Outpost and she really wouldn't have minded had things stayed the same…the way they were before that mission. Cursing softly, she slammed her note to the board, letting the pen fall to and clatter on the wooden floor. So much for the benefit of distractions.
((Author's Note: Some references by this character and the character herself are derived from the movie Starship Troopers))
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 1/2/1999 3:22 AM Central Daylight Time
From: LoneWolfBW
The tone of the post sounded oddly familiar, he mused. But, no matter...a reply is called for, and who was he to disappoint?
"Diz..?
To wit:
>>This is to Walker and Ryan…who I can only assume are males.
That's interesting. That blustery Layne fellow had the same habit of assuming. You two really should work on that. But it's interesting that my gender has anything at all to do with this...Layne is also very adept at irrelevancy. Perhaps you two should have coffee together.
>> Think tactics boys. You're complaining about people not showing up on the night(s) this place is open, yes?
Er, no. As I also told Layne (are you sure you two are not related?) I am not complaining. I'm making a point. I'm sure I won't have to say that AGAIN.
>>Well, perhaps whoever runs this joint figures that opening a new night might make it easier for more folks to show up. Doesn't that make sense?
It might also make sense then to shut down one of the non-productive nights so as not to dilute the product. Doesn't that make sense?
>>Yeah…you're right. It does.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Cordially,
Walker
From: LoneWolfBW
The tone of the post sounded oddly familiar, he mused. But, no matter...a reply is called for, and who was he to disappoint?
"Diz..?
To wit:
>>This is to Walker and Ryan…who I can only assume are males.
That's interesting. That blustery Layne fellow had the same habit of assuming. You two really should work on that. But it's interesting that my gender has anything at all to do with this...Layne is also very adept at irrelevancy. Perhaps you two should have coffee together.
>> Think tactics boys. You're complaining about people not showing up on the night(s) this place is open, yes?
Er, no. As I also told Layne (are you sure you two are not related?) I am not complaining. I'm making a point. I'm sure I won't have to say that AGAIN.
>>Well, perhaps whoever runs this joint figures that opening a new night might make it easier for more folks to show up. Doesn't that make sense?
It might also make sense then to shut down one of the non-productive nights so as not to dilute the product. Doesn't that make sense?
>>Yeah…you're right. It does.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Cordially,
Walker
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 1/2/1999 5:09 AM Central Daylight Time
From: DzzyFIores
Reading the reply this man wrote her, she had to smile. Now she wasn't a feminist by most people's definition of the term. Hell, in her society gender issues had taken a backseat to Citizens vs. non-Citizens. She'd seen men screw up, she'd seen women screw up, and she'd seen them both die. And while she'd known men more than capable of holding their own, she put more faith in herself not just because of her sex,
but because of who she was and what she'd seen. So, she wrote once more.
You know something Walker, you continue to impress upon me the inadequacies of some minds when it comes to dealing with simple logic. I started the gender topic, you ran with it, so let's continue. First off, I apparently assumed correctly about your status as a male. Seemed I touched a button there, quite the defensive one you are. Why I need to work on my skills at assumption I don't understand, seeing as how I hit the nail on the head.
Now I don't know this "blustery Layne fellow" but as he too is male (a woman named Layne…well, I can't fathom it) I don't put a whole lot of stock in his words either. You both blow a lot of hot air. You want to discuss irrelevancy? What the hell does our dear "Layne" have to do with the discussion you and I are having? And to clarify…No. We are not related. You think we're similar? I'd say he has more in common with you. Look at what and how
you both write; it's more of a pissing contest than anything else. Whereas I merely disagree with you the two of you are doing wonders with the veiled threats and the `don't cross me in the street' commentary. I don't waste my time with such useless talk; it doesn't accomplish much but if you both must stroke your egos, so be it.
And yes, you are complaining. Making a point while you do it but you are complaining. So sorry this place doesn't live up to your standards; maybe you should do something about it other than talk (write) a good game, hm? As far as shutting down goes, neither of us are in charge and debating the finer points of logistics won't matter because the decision's been made. Dilution isn't an issue, or it shouldn't be. If they've got the people to
handle the extra load, then the staff are covered. I doubt people are going to stop coming one night just to arrive on some other; people will come when they come. What's the disadvantage of more opportunities? And while you, I use the term lightly, `suggest', that the staff do something to increase patronage on current nights, I don't see you offering many ideas. But then again, you are a man, and a typical one at that--all criticism and little
helpfulness.
So let's all try something new; instead of "making points" and leaving it at that, why doesn't everyone who dislikes the situation go write or talk to the people in charge instead of wasting all your energy preaching to the masses?
And yes, it's Diz.
--Diz
((Author's Note: Some references by this character and the character herself are derived from the movie Starship Troopers))
From: DzzyFIores
Reading the reply this man wrote her, she had to smile. Now she wasn't a feminist by most people's definition of the term. Hell, in her society gender issues had taken a backseat to Citizens vs. non-Citizens. She'd seen men screw up, she'd seen women screw up, and she'd seen them both die. And while she'd known men more than capable of holding their own, she put more faith in herself not just because of her sex,
but because of who she was and what she'd seen. So, she wrote once more.
You know something Walker, you continue to impress upon me the inadequacies of some minds when it comes to dealing with simple logic. I started the gender topic, you ran with it, so let's continue. First off, I apparently assumed correctly about your status as a male. Seemed I touched a button there, quite the defensive one you are. Why I need to work on my skills at assumption I don't understand, seeing as how I hit the nail on the head.
Now I don't know this "blustery Layne fellow" but as he too is male (a woman named Layne…well, I can't fathom it) I don't put a whole lot of stock in his words either. You both blow a lot of hot air. You want to discuss irrelevancy? What the hell does our dear "Layne" have to do with the discussion you and I are having? And to clarify…No. We are not related. You think we're similar? I'd say he has more in common with you. Look at what and how
you both write; it's more of a pissing contest than anything else. Whereas I merely disagree with you the two of you are doing wonders with the veiled threats and the `don't cross me in the street' commentary. I don't waste my time with such useless talk; it doesn't accomplish much but if you both must stroke your egos, so be it.
And yes, you are complaining. Making a point while you do it but you are complaining. So sorry this place doesn't live up to your standards; maybe you should do something about it other than talk (write) a good game, hm? As far as shutting down goes, neither of us are in charge and debating the finer points of logistics won't matter because the decision's been made. Dilution isn't an issue, or it shouldn't be. If they've got the people to
handle the extra load, then the staff are covered. I doubt people are going to stop coming one night just to arrive on some other; people will come when they come. What's the disadvantage of more opportunities? And while you, I use the term lightly, `suggest', that the staff do something to increase patronage on current nights, I don't see you offering many ideas. But then again, you are a man, and a typical one at that--all criticism and little
helpfulness.
So let's all try something new; instead of "making points" and leaving it at that, why doesn't everyone who dislikes the situation go write or talk to the people in charge instead of wasting all your energy preaching to the masses?
And yes, it's Diz.
--Diz
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 1/2/1999 5:12 PM Central Daylight Time
From: LoneWolfBW
The smile grew ever wider. Her reactions were nearly pin-point perfect...a pity one could be so predictable. But then, he'd expected much the same.
"Ah yes, Diz again..
>>You know something Walker, you continue to impress upon me the inadequacies of some minds when it comes to dealing with simple logic.
Yes, and I'll continue to do so until you're able to deal. It's an effort, but I'm nothing if not patient.
>>I started the gender topic, you ran with it, so let's continue.
I commented on the irrelevancy of it, my friend. If that's what you call running with it, so be it.
>>First off, I apparently assumed correctly about your status as a male. Seemed I touched a button there, quite the defensive one you are. Why I need to work on my skills at assumption I don't understand, seeing as how I hit the nail on the head.
It would appear you're congratulating yourself for completely misreading my reply. That's quite all right; as I told Layne, if that's how you find your entertainment, more power to you.
>>You want to discuss irrelevancy?
It does seem to be your forte, seeing as how 99% of what you've said or replied to me so far has absolutely nothing to do with the original subject.
>>What the hell does our dear "Layne" have to do with the discussion you and I are having?
I'll repeat for you - you both assume a lot. Did you catch it that time? Good.
>>I'd say he has more in common with you. Look at what and how you both write;
I think first the difference would be relevancy of topic and about 150 IQ points. Obviously you missed that, but that's to be expected.
>>it's more of a pissing contest than anything else. Whereas I merely disagree with you
That's amusing, seeing as how you saw fit to get in on this discussion with your own brand of 'pissing'. Those in glass houses, my dear..
>>the two of you are doing wonders with the veiled threats and the `don't cross me in the street' commentary.
If threats are what he understands, I'll pay in his currency. Again, I don't see how that concerns you.
>>And yes, you are complaining. Making a point while you do it but you are complaining.
My dear, I hardly think you qualified to know what I am thinking or doing. You can, of course, have your opinion on it - but that's all it is.
>>So sorry this place doesn't live up to your standards;
To repeat: I stated that this place has bragged about it's hospitality and friendliness to newcomers, and has failed to show it. Those aren't my standards, those are their own.
>>maybe you should do something about it other than talk (write) a good game, hm?
Once again, it's being implied that the responsibility for upholding the Outback's reputation for hospitality is my responsibility. A very nice job of passing the buck, that.
>>If they've got the people to
handle the extra load, then the staff are covered.
I hardly think that 'an extra load' on the staff is the issue here. Have you actually read anything I said, or just made all of this up? I am talking about dilution of the talent pool - more nights, less people. Easy enough, neh?
>>And while you, I use the term lightly, `suggest', that the staff do something to increase patronage on current nights, I don't see you offering many ideas.
Once again, it's my job? I really must get a position here, then I could do all of this for you.
>>But then again, you are a man, and a typical one at that--all criticism and little
helpfulness.
Ah, there we are. I was rather sure you'd fall back on gender stereotypes eventually, thus absolutely negating any credibility you might have. Nice try, but I refuse to go there with you.
As for the 'situation', Diz, if you think it best to write the people in charge, you go right ahead and do that. I shall stick with the course I've charted, thank you.
Cordially,
Walker
From: LoneWolfBW
The smile grew ever wider. Her reactions were nearly pin-point perfect...a pity one could be so predictable. But then, he'd expected much the same.
"Ah yes, Diz again..
>>You know something Walker, you continue to impress upon me the inadequacies of some minds when it comes to dealing with simple logic.
Yes, and I'll continue to do so until you're able to deal. It's an effort, but I'm nothing if not patient.
>>I started the gender topic, you ran with it, so let's continue.
I commented on the irrelevancy of it, my friend. If that's what you call running with it, so be it.
>>First off, I apparently assumed correctly about your status as a male. Seemed I touched a button there, quite the defensive one you are. Why I need to work on my skills at assumption I don't understand, seeing as how I hit the nail on the head.
It would appear you're congratulating yourself for completely misreading my reply. That's quite all right; as I told Layne, if that's how you find your entertainment, more power to you.
>>You want to discuss irrelevancy?
It does seem to be your forte, seeing as how 99% of what you've said or replied to me so far has absolutely nothing to do with the original subject.
>>What the hell does our dear "Layne" have to do with the discussion you and I are having?
I'll repeat for you - you both assume a lot. Did you catch it that time? Good.
>>I'd say he has more in common with you. Look at what and how you both write;
I think first the difference would be relevancy of topic and about 150 IQ points. Obviously you missed that, but that's to be expected.
>>it's more of a pissing contest than anything else. Whereas I merely disagree with you
That's amusing, seeing as how you saw fit to get in on this discussion with your own brand of 'pissing'. Those in glass houses, my dear..
>>the two of you are doing wonders with the veiled threats and the `don't cross me in the street' commentary.
If threats are what he understands, I'll pay in his currency. Again, I don't see how that concerns you.
>>And yes, you are complaining. Making a point while you do it but you are complaining.
My dear, I hardly think you qualified to know what I am thinking or doing. You can, of course, have your opinion on it - but that's all it is.
>>So sorry this place doesn't live up to your standards;
To repeat: I stated that this place has bragged about it's hospitality and friendliness to newcomers, and has failed to show it. Those aren't my standards, those are their own.
>>maybe you should do something about it other than talk (write) a good game, hm?
Once again, it's being implied that the responsibility for upholding the Outback's reputation for hospitality is my responsibility. A very nice job of passing the buck, that.
>>If they've got the people to
handle the extra load, then the staff are covered.
I hardly think that 'an extra load' on the staff is the issue here. Have you actually read anything I said, or just made all of this up? I am talking about dilution of the talent pool - more nights, less people. Easy enough, neh?
>>And while you, I use the term lightly, `suggest', that the staff do something to increase patronage on current nights, I don't see you offering many ideas.
Once again, it's my job? I really must get a position here, then I could do all of this for you.
>>But then again, you are a man, and a typical one at that--all criticism and little
helpfulness.
Ah, there we are. I was rather sure you'd fall back on gender stereotypes eventually, thus absolutely negating any credibility you might have. Nice try, but I refuse to go there with you.
As for the 'situation', Diz, if you think it best to write the people in charge, you go right ahead and do that. I shall stick with the course I've charted, thank you.
Cordially,
Walker
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 1/2/1999 8:45 PM Central Daylight Time
From: JesseTroyn
::continuing to laugh uncontrollably as he sifts through the posts::
More arguing over nothing, boy is it funny. Maybe you people should just wait and see how the new night goes over, if people like it, and all that jazz before the whining, arguing, and pissing contests go any further. I gotta say, this is the first damn time I've ever seen somebody argue against the officials of one of the sports here opening a new night for dueling. This place is just full of surprises I guess.
-JT
::just shakes his head, cracking up as he swaggers off, taking a long drag from his cig::
From: JesseTroyn
::continuing to laugh uncontrollably as he sifts through the posts::
More arguing over nothing, boy is it funny. Maybe you people should just wait and see how the new night goes over, if people like it, and all that jazz before the whining, arguing, and pissing contests go any further. I gotta say, this is the first damn time I've ever seen somebody argue against the officials of one of the sports here opening a new night for dueling. This place is just full of surprises I guess.
-JT
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights!
Date: 1/3/1999 9:34 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Kazakill
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with Jesse on this one. Why don't you people wait and see how it works out before arguing, especially over something so miniscule. Kaz 'The Man' Darkhart
From: Kazakill
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with Jesse on this one. Why don't you people wait and see how it works out before arguing, especially over something so miniscule. Kaz 'The Man' Darkhart
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights! (to Walker, et al)
Date: 1/6/1999 5:14 PM Central Daylight Time
From: EthanLSwan
Returning for some unknowable reason to the boards, drink in hand this time (the glass and it's contents bought from the rugged inn "Outfront"), Ethan again found something of interest to post his own two pence upon.
"Walker... 'with warmest regards'. My dear, dear man how you make me laugh! I shall always love you for that.
"Miss Diz, you don't know me and certainly don't need to hear from me, but I know Walker. Were that bloke to engage in a pissing contest, he'd flood the place. I'm not sure what that is, caution or humor. Take it as you will.
"Jesse! What a delight! I don't understand why everyone seems to dislike you so -- ah, but there I go giving too much credence to what might be only rumors. I must say however, your 'Maybe you ... should just wait and see how the new night goes over' was very well said! Bravo, I say! I can't help but agree, honestly, with the stance that provides me an opportunity to sit back and do nothing.
With respect,
Ethan L. Swan"
From: EthanLSwan
Returning for some unknowable reason to the boards, drink in hand this time (the glass and it's contents bought from the rugged inn "Outfront"), Ethan again found something of interest to post his own two pence upon.
"Walker... 'with warmest regards'. My dear, dear man how you make me laugh! I shall always love you for that.
"Miss Diz, you don't know me and certainly don't need to hear from me, but I know Walker. Were that bloke to engage in a pissing contest, he'd flood the place. I'm not sure what that is, caution or humor. Take it as you will.
"Jesse! What a delight! I don't understand why everyone seems to dislike you so -- ah, but there I go giving too much credence to what might be only rumors. I must say however, your 'Maybe you ... should just wait and see how the new night goes over' was very well said! Bravo, I say! I can't help but agree, honestly, with the stance that provides me an opportunity to sit back and do nothing.
With respect,
Ethan L. Swan"
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights! (to Walker, et al)
Date: 1/16/1999 4:18 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Gamelord03
Well, I know that it seems that you guys have been over this point before, but I thought I'd put my two cents in. Personally, I agree with Diz about opening the new night. As for one, it gives me the flexibility to come more often, which would increase my interest in DoF. I am sure that this is the case for other people. I'm not always free on the current nights to duel, but sometimes I may be free on Tuesday
nights, but I sadly don't get to duel... But now, due to the added night, I may be able to duel on that night...
The more duelling nights we have available, the more people will join the DoF. Doesn't it seem logical that more people will join?
((OOC: I have personally tought in a Martial Arts School, and our school was the most popular in the area mainly due to our flexibility of workouts. We would have three levels of workouts (Adults & Kids: Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced), have workouts 6 days a week, and many times the same class at different times in one day... Since people can come whenever they have free time, we have more people than most places. If, say, we only had
workouts 3 or 4 times a week and only two classes per day (Instead of 6 or more), do you think we would have as many students? I don't think so. I realize that this has little to duel with DoF, but the principle is the same, offer more duelling nights, more people will join DoF))
Sincerely,
Game
From: Gamelord03
Well, I know that it seems that you guys have been over this point before, but I thought I'd put my two cents in. Personally, I agree with Diz about opening the new night. As for one, it gives me the flexibility to come more often, which would increase my interest in DoF. I am sure that this is the case for other people. I'm not always free on the current nights to duel, but sometimes I may be free on Tuesday
nights, but I sadly don't get to duel... But now, due to the added night, I may be able to duel on that night...
The more duelling nights we have available, the more people will join the DoF. Doesn't it seem logical that more people will join?
((OOC: I have personally tought in a Martial Arts School, and our school was the most popular in the area mainly due to our flexibility of workouts. We would have three levels of workouts (Adults & Kids: Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced), have workouts 6 days a week, and many times the same class at different times in one day... Since people can come whenever they have free time, we have more people than most places. If, say, we only had
workouts 3 or 4 times a week and only two classes per day (Instead of 6 or more), do you think we would have as many students? I don't think so. I realize that this has little to duel with DoF, but the principle is the same, offer more duelling nights, more people will join DoF))
Sincerely,
Game
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Re: Tuesday Night Fights! (to Walker, et al)
Date: 1/17/1999 10:37 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Roland Sal
Maybe we can adjust the times on the current nights to allow more people to show up?
Like open a bit earlier, maybe. That may bring in a good number of people.
Rol
From: Roland Sal
Maybe we can adjust the times on the current nights to allow more people to show up?
Like open a bit earlier, maybe. That may bring in a good number of people.
Rol