Date: 8/30/97 11:15 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: EcoreX
Baroness Adeena Maeax,
I am challenging thee for the right to wear the 6th Baron Ring of DoS so that I may perhaps if successful wear it as well myself. In keeping with my Triad Objective, I have already worn the 5th, 8th, and 9th Baron Rings of DoS. Of those who are Baron now, my past history has been as colorful with you as with some of the others, and as well I consider you one of the more experienced and more skilled duelists to currently or have ever held the title of Baron. I looked forward to the match of
challenge and thy response.
E-core
1. Ecore X def. Baron AJaybird2, 5 - 0 in 8 rounds. RDI Rogue - 7/17
2. Ecore X def. Warlord NovaShayde, 5 - 4 in 11 rounds. RDI Rogue - 7/17
3. Ecore X def. Warlord BekaCavish, 5 - 3 in 11 rounds. RDI Mimi - 7/18
4. Ecore X def. Warlord Vear SIVAK, 5 - 3 in 9 rounds. RDI Scad - 7/18
5. Ecore X def. Warlord Draven Il, 3.5 - 2.5 in 15 rounds. RDI Rogue - 7/19
6. Ecore X def. Warlord Kayne Rn, 5 - 3 in 9 rounds. RDI Scad - 7/19
7. Ecore X def. Warlord HumaDragbn, 5 - 0.5 in 9 rounds. RDI Mimi - 7/24
8. Ecore X def. Baron RLupton, 5 - 3 in 8 rounds. RDI Rogue - 7/31
9. Ecore X def. Warlord Jakvaltrds, 5 - 4 in 11 rounds. RDI Alais - 8/8
10. Ecore X def. Warlord Dakich, 5 - 3.5 in 13 rounds. RDI Scad - 8/23
Issue of Challenge
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Date: 8/30/97 11:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: IainMacKnz
Ecore:
As I recall, you swore prior to your loss to Lord arD'aumon that you intended to challenge the Overlord at every opportunity, until you were able to gain the title and defend it without intercession.
Unless I have missed something, Baroness Maeax is not the Overlord, nor is the sixth ring the Overlordship.
Is this a diversion from your oath, or will you claim to have been misunderstood again?
I await;
Iain MacKenzie
Lord Tynsdale
From: IainMacKnz
Ecore:
As I recall, you swore prior to your loss to Lord arD'aumon that you intended to challenge the Overlord at every opportunity, until you were able to gain the title and defend it without intercession.
Unless I have missed something, Baroness Maeax is not the Overlord, nor is the sixth ring the Overlordship.
Is this a diversion from your oath, or will you claim to have been misunderstood again?
I await;
Iain MacKenzie
Lord Tynsdale
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Date: 8/30/97 12:50 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: LordovDale
::smirks reading the challenge and then the responses to it::
Hmm.. so the intent is to attempt to dethrone one of the most worthy and skilled Barons ever in an attempt to get a quicker path to challenging me? I'm not quite sure how I feel about this.. nevertheless I'm sure it will be an excellent match. Luck to both of you.. though I admit I do hope Adeena emerges victorious.
-Dal
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::smirks reading the challenge and then the responses to it::
Hmm.. so the intent is to attempt to dethrone one of the most worthy and skilled Barons ever in an attempt to get a quicker path to challenging me? I'm not quite sure how I feel about this.. nevertheless I'm sure it will be an excellent match. Luck to both of you.. though I admit I do hope Adeena emerges victorious.
-Dal
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Date: 8/31/97 8:17 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Kalamere
Elijah,
I must admit to some confusion on two counts, both of which I hope you are willing to clear up for me.
The first is your own Triad Objective as contrasted against statements you have made since that particular essay. Specifially what you have written about the baron rank. As I understand the Triad objective, your hope was to win all nine baron's rings, the Overlordship and achieve 1 thousand wins over losses. All of this done while using your complimient of fancies and dueling those of all ranks, before moving on to the second step where you would forfeit your fancies to accomplish all of the same.
Despite the list of goals, your approach changed when you returned from your latest retirement. Apparently forgoing the listed objectives to duel fancieless against only warlords with the only mentioned goal of gaining the Overlordship. During this stage you menioned, on a number of occassions, your new found hatred for the Baron rank.
>> I have claimed that I hate the Universal Terms of Challenge Rules .... along
>> with the rank of Baron....
>> I admit when I first saw the new rank of baron it seemed appealing but
>> in retrospect, it disgusts me
>> Get rid of barons all together I say, and all those extra fu-fu rights and
>> priviledges of the Challenges Rules
Have you finally lost so much respect for yourself that you feel you should hold a title that repulses you? Or has there been yet another change of heart? When you last returned you took a Falon like approach, dueling only warlords and saying that the Overlordship was the only title worth having. Have you found a new idle to emulate perhaps?
The second thing that I find confusing is the contrast of this challenge verse your own stated beliefs of challenging being to easy. When last we discussed this issue I asked you:
>> To thyself be true. If a man cannot respect his own standards, then why
>> should anyone else?
to which you responded:
>> Good point and definiatly an idea to work on, Kalamere.
>> Part of the reason why I went with at least 20 peer wins when I challenged
Yet.. here you issue challenge, unqualified by your own standards. Exactly 10 peer wins and a dismal record of 40%. I suppose you will tell me that the reason for this is because you are challenging a Baron. Other than reffering you back to my first point of confusion I must add to that, if you have so little respect for the rank as to make a bare bones challenge without bothering to stick to any of your own written standards... then why bother challenging at all?
Awaiting your response,
~Kalamere...
From: Kalamere
Elijah,
I must admit to some confusion on two counts, both of which I hope you are willing to clear up for me.
The first is your own Triad Objective as contrasted against statements you have made since that particular essay. Specifially what you have written about the baron rank. As I understand the Triad objective, your hope was to win all nine baron's rings, the Overlordship and achieve 1 thousand wins over losses. All of this done while using your complimient of fancies and dueling those of all ranks, before moving on to the second step where you would forfeit your fancies to accomplish all of the same.
Despite the list of goals, your approach changed when you returned from your latest retirement. Apparently forgoing the listed objectives to duel fancieless against only warlords with the only mentioned goal of gaining the Overlordship. During this stage you menioned, on a number of occassions, your new found hatred for the Baron rank.
>> I have claimed that I hate the Universal Terms of Challenge Rules .... along
>> with the rank of Baron....
>> I admit when I first saw the new rank of baron it seemed appealing but
>> in retrospect, it disgusts me
>> Get rid of barons all together I say, and all those extra fu-fu rights and
>> priviledges of the Challenges Rules
Have you finally lost so much respect for yourself that you feel you should hold a title that repulses you? Or has there been yet another change of heart? When you last returned you took a Falon like approach, dueling only warlords and saying that the Overlordship was the only title worth having. Have you found a new idle to emulate perhaps?
The second thing that I find confusing is the contrast of this challenge verse your own stated beliefs of challenging being to easy. When last we discussed this issue I asked you:
>> To thyself be true. If a man cannot respect his own standards, then why
>> should anyone else?
to which you responded:
>> Good point and definiatly an idea to work on, Kalamere.
>> Part of the reason why I went with at least 20 peer wins when I challenged
Yet.. here you issue challenge, unqualified by your own standards. Exactly 10 peer wins and a dismal record of 40%. I suppose you will tell me that the reason for this is because you are challenging a Baron. Other than reffering you back to my first point of confusion I must add to that, if you have so little respect for the rank as to make a bare bones challenge without bothering to stick to any of your own written standards... then why bother challenging at all?
Awaiting your response,
~Kalamere...
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Date: 8/31/97 9:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: EcoreX
Swords Community,
I refuse to answer any missives, posts, or general conversation in the Arena addressed to "Elijah". That name and that part of my exsistence are long dead to me now, and I am not that person anymore. My name is E-core.
~E-core
From: EcoreX
Swords Community,
I refuse to answer any missives, posts, or general conversation in the Arena addressed to "Elijah". That name and that part of my exsistence are long dead to me now, and I am not that person anymore. My name is E-core.
~E-core
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Date: 8/31/97 10:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Foxxgrrl
::sighs angrily before scribbling::
Obviously this pisses you off, E, the same thing would piss me off. But I still talk to people who call me by the wrong name. Sometimes people forget. You went by Elijah for quite some time, and since you claim his record, you can't possibly say
>That name and that part of my exsistence are long dead to me now>
Unless, of course, you're being a hypocrite.
~Ally, Alanna, formerly known as Alan (although not around here), still called "Foxx" or "Foxxy" from time to time
From: Foxxgrrl
::sighs angrily before scribbling::
Obviously this pisses you off, E, the same thing would piss me off. But I still talk to people who call me by the wrong name. Sometimes people forget. You went by Elijah for quite some time, and since you claim his record, you can't possibly say
>That name and that part of my exsistence are long dead to me now>
Unless, of course, you're being a hypocrite.
~Ally, Alanna, formerly known as Alan (although not around here), still called "Foxx" or "Foxxy" from time to time
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Date: 8/31/97 11:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: PrlUnicorn
>>Obviously this pisses you off, E, the same thing would piss me off. But I still talk to people who call me by the wrong name. Sometimes people forget. You went by Elijah for quite some time, and since you claim his record, you can't possibly say
>That name and that part of my exsistence are long dead to me now>
Unless, of course, you're being a hypocrite.<<
E.
I have to partly go with Ally on this one... if Elijah is no longer any part of you .. the records should have been zeroed out... Fact is, although you'd like to think of him as gone and your life as changed.. he is still a part of you.. It's like some people use a nickname that I will only answer to from close family. It frustrastes me because they assume the right to use it..
(( Collie feels the same way about about being called Pearl that Red prolly does about being called Gabriel))
From: PrlUnicorn
>>Obviously this pisses you off, E, the same thing would piss me off. But I still talk to people who call me by the wrong name. Sometimes people forget. You went by Elijah for quite some time, and since you claim his record, you can't possibly say
>That name and that part of my exsistence are long dead to me now>
Unless, of course, you're being a hypocrite.<<
E.
I have to partly go with Ally on this one... if Elijah is no longer any part of you .. the records should have been zeroed out... Fact is, although you'd like to think of him as gone and your life as changed.. he is still a part of you.. It's like some people use a nickname that I will only answer to from close family. It frustrastes me because they assume the right to use it..
(( Collie feels the same way about about being called Pearl that Red prolly does about being called Gabriel))
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Date: 8/31/97 11:59 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: NovaShayde
I do have to say I'm curious as to why this challenge is being made, E-core. I have heard you time and time again bemoan the rank of Baron and state that you will never even challenge for any title unless you gained a certain amount of peer wins... not the minimum of ten. Feel free to explain what new plan you've assimilated... it's certainly not one of the few I've heard you speak on before.
Of course... there was a time you said you would never challenge again. It seems I'm less inclined to believe anything you say these days, and that's the greatest shame of all...
Grey Shadow
From: NovaShayde
I do have to say I'm curious as to why this challenge is being made, E-core. I have heard you time and time again bemoan the rank of Baron and state that you will never even challenge for any title unless you gained a certain amount of peer wins... not the minimum of ten. Feel free to explain what new plan you've assimilated... it's certainly not one of the few I've heard you speak on before.
Of course... there was a time you said you would never challenge again. It seems I'm less inclined to believe anything you say these days, and that's the greatest shame of all...
Grey Shadow
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Date: 8/31/97 12:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Kalamere
To the Duelist formerly know as Elijah,
Upon my first year in the Duel of Swords, during the year of 1994, is when I first met you. It was in the Fall, I believe, that you returned from your first excile. Many around the arena, at the time, refered to you as "E Core" as did I when first I we met.
I was later instructed to call you by the name of Elijah Basia-Uhr, which I naturally had no problems with.
After you had been be-headed, returned from the dead and retired twice more from the rings, you chose to be called by Elijah Llewys instead.
Now, after yet another retirement and some spiritual relevation, you wish to be called by Ecore again. And, of course, throughout all of this there is the issue of wanting the rights to be called "E".
From 3 to 5 names, depending on how you look at it, in 4 years time....and the Gods only know how many months it'll be before you decide to change it again. Perhaps in the future, if it looks as if you've decided to stick with one of your chosen names, I will address you by it. Or at least if I truly believed your present reasoning for the desire to be called Ecore again. However, neither of the former are currently present, so you may expect me to continue refering to you as Elijah.
As to not addressing my questions due to lack of your present chosen name being used... that, of course, is your right...
~Kalamere...
From: Kalamere
To the Duelist formerly know as Elijah,
Upon my first year in the Duel of Swords, during the year of 1994, is when I first met you. It was in the Fall, I believe, that you returned from your first excile. Many around the arena, at the time, refered to you as "E Core" as did I when first I we met.
I was later instructed to call you by the name of Elijah Basia-Uhr, which I naturally had no problems with.
After you had been be-headed, returned from the dead and retired twice more from the rings, you chose to be called by Elijah Llewys instead.
Now, after yet another retirement and some spiritual relevation, you wish to be called by Ecore again. And, of course, throughout all of this there is the issue of wanting the rights to be called "E".
From 3 to 5 names, depending on how you look at it, in 4 years time....and the Gods only know how many months it'll be before you decide to change it again. Perhaps in the future, if it looks as if you've decided to stick with one of your chosen names, I will address you by it. Or at least if I truly believed your present reasoning for the desire to be called Ecore again. However, neither of the former are currently present, so you may expect me to continue refering to you as Elijah.
As to not addressing my questions due to lack of your present chosen name being used... that, of course, is your right...
~Kalamere...
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Date: 8/31/97 1:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Kingphisch
:reads all the missives and hiding a slight chuckle scribbles a quick note:
hmm.. i must ask all of you, since when has 'E' ever done what he said he was going to do or not going to do?
has anyone ever witnessed how he reacts after having lost a challenge? i personally witnessed him leave a duelist lay on the ground bleeding to death after having lost to jeffrey. actually, he lost twice, once for the challenge and then his baron's ring, all in the same night.
kal, when you nail him right where it hurts, do you really expect him to address your questions? it's sad that we even have to deal with him in the first place. granted, and there is no denying, he is a masterful deulist and has a record, except for jeff's, that can nae be matched, but his attitude and obnoxiousness i think we can all do without, but, of course, we have no control over that.
i usually remain silent but the interaction that always seems to take place where 'E' is involved, is always interesting, to say the least.
oh, and i think the other guy should be called 'E' because his name, although spelled with difficulty, is pronouned 'E', as the following letters after the E are silent :smirks:
kingphisch of covington
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From: Kingphisch
:reads all the missives and hiding a slight chuckle scribbles a quick note:
hmm.. i must ask all of you, since when has 'E' ever done what he said he was going to do or not going to do?
has anyone ever witnessed how he reacts after having lost a challenge? i personally witnessed him leave a duelist lay on the ground bleeding to death after having lost to jeffrey. actually, he lost twice, once for the challenge and then his baron's ring, all in the same night.
kal, when you nail him right where it hurts, do you really expect him to address your questions? it's sad that we even have to deal with him in the first place. granted, and there is no denying, he is a masterful deulist and has a record, except for jeff's, that can nae be matched, but his attitude and obnoxiousness i think we can all do without, but, of course, we have no control over that.
i usually remain silent but the interaction that always seems to take place where 'E' is involved, is always interesting, to say the least.
oh, and i think the other guy should be called 'E' because his name, although spelled with difficulty, is pronouned 'E', as the following letters after the E are silent :smirks:
kingphisch of covington
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