From: qxz137@aol.com (QXZ137)
Date: 08 Oct 1998 15:46:09 EDT
Now, I don't quite understand the controversy surrounding children in the ring. In case you've forgotten, the goal of the Arena's game is to poke someone with a sword 5 times, or out-manuever them. It is NOT to batter someone in to submission. This "magic wand" thing is watching and healing us, so it's no big deal in the "getting hurt" factor.
And, about the fear of children dueling outside the ring? A child's parents can simply say, "The magic wand only saves those harmed in the Arena. Please do not 'duel' outside of the Arena." Besides, only children of foolish races, such as Humans, would fight outside of the rings with no purpose in mind.
:Takes a small wooden dagger and smacks the note several times before the silly thing stays on. Upon second,
third, and fourth thoughts, writes::
--Quizxs Xysar Zzaasdp
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From: lordtek@aol.com (Lord TEK)
Date: 08 Oct 1998 18:48:06 EDT
Well,maybe. But,shouldn't there be something done for human children?
-Xerzes Maureen
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Date: 08 Oct 1998 18:48:06 EDT
Well,maybe. But,shouldn't there be something done for human children?
-Xerzes Maureen
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From: ytmeis@aol.com (YTMEIS)
Date: 09 Oct 1998 10:18:52 EDT
I am not a parent, so I can not give an expert's comment on this. However, I think that if a parent believes that their child is wise enough not to duel outside the "safe" arenas, then they should have the option to let their child duel inside them. Even arena dueling requires a certain level of maturity, but the parent can be the only judge of this. It seems to me that most parents in the town care enough about
their children to realize whether or not dueling at a young age is wise.
- Jaem Triver, M@M@A
Capt., The Disengaged
Master-at-Master-at-Armship
Date: 09 Oct 1998 10:18:52 EDT
I am not a parent, so I can not give an expert's comment on this. However, I think that if a parent believes that their child is wise enough not to duel outside the "safe" arenas, then they should have the option to let their child duel inside them. Even arena dueling requires a certain level of maturity, but the parent can be the only judge of this. It seems to me that most parents in the town care enough about
their children to realize whether or not dueling at a young age is wise.
- Jaem Triver, M@M@A
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From: occurs@aol.com (Occurs)
Date: 09 Oct 1998 14:31:01 EDT
Heyas,
I be thinking on this a bit. I see nothing wrong with Children in ta Arena - as long as they be supervised. For meself, I never been fond of hacking up me opponent for ta sport of it. So no child need fear more than a swat on ta rear from me.
Me thinks, however, if ya see an adult hacking up a child, that ta Offical or someone else best stop ta duel and expell ta adult. After all, a child be a child...but an adult be an adult, I holds them ta higher standards.
Me thoughts,
Summer
Date: 09 Oct 1998 14:31:01 EDT
Heyas,
I be thinking on this a bit. I see nothing wrong with Children in ta Arena - as long as they be supervised. For meself, I never been fond of hacking up me opponent for ta sport of it. So no child need fear more than a swat on ta rear from me.
Me thinks, however, if ya see an adult hacking up a child, that ta Offical or someone else best stop ta duel and expell ta adult. After all, a child be a child...but an adult be an adult, I holds them ta higher standards.
Me thoughts,
Summer
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From: drakewyni@aol.com (Drakewyn I)
Date: 09 Oct 1998 15:03:44 EDT
::Grins and posts a quick note.::
Who do you hold to a higher standard Summer, the adults or the children?
I'm just kidding, of course, but let's be honest... -Everyone- should holdthemselves up to a higher standard. An impossible dream? Maybe... but I will always strive for it.
I don't ask for people to be saints... the Gods know I'm far from that myself. But respect, even in small doses, gives the greatest of returns...
I thank you for your time.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon
Date: 09 Oct 1998 15:03:44 EDT
::Grins and posts a quick note.::
Who do you hold to a higher standard Summer, the adults or the children?
I'm just kidding, of course, but let's be honest... -Everyone- should holdthemselves up to a higher standard. An impossible dream? Maybe... but I will always strive for it.
I don't ask for people to be saints... the Gods know I'm far from that myself. But respect, even in small doses, gives the greatest of returns...
I thank you for your time.
Lady Drake, aka the Gryphon
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From: ytmeis@aol.com (YTMEIS)
Date: 09 Oct 1998 17:06:30 EDT
::reads Summer's post::
Personally, I've never seen an adult hack up even another adult (I refer to unnecessary roughness), but even if an adult starts beating an adult up in the arena, something should be done - though beating up a child would be more serious.
- Jaem Triver, M@M@A
Capt., The Disengaged
Master-at-Master-at-Armship
Date: 09 Oct 1998 17:06:30 EDT
::reads Summer's post::
Personally, I've never seen an adult hack up even another adult (I refer to unnecessary roughness), but even if an adult starts beating an adult up in the arena, something should be done - though beating up a child would be more serious.
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From: karyepezd@aol.com (Karye PezD)
Date: 09 Oct 1998 22:12:04 EDT
Then, Jaem, I suggest that you watch Seraph duel.
~K
Date: 09 Oct 1998 22:12:04 EDT
Then, Jaem, I suggest that you watch Seraph duel.
~K
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From: ixdaelinxi@aol.com (IXDaelinXI)
Date: 10 Oct 1998 13:42:13 EDT
I thought it was "The Ward of Gondar" not the "magic wand" ::hmms then shrugs and walks off::
((Do I need to say it? Not a post))
Date: 10 Oct 1998 13:42:13 EDT
I thought it was "The Ward of Gondar" not the "magic wand" ::hmms then shrugs and walks off::
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From: paulyspiff@aol.com (PaulySpiff)
Date: 10 Oct 1998 23:15:09 EDT
::reads all the posts::
Dear all,
Children dueling is okay. If they are brave to step in the ring with warlords, Barons, and such. Let them duel. They spice things up a bit. ::giggles::
Pauly
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Date: 10 Oct 1998 23:15:09 EDT
::reads all the posts::
Dear all,
Children dueling is okay. If they are brave to step in the ring with warlords, Barons, and such. Let them duel. They spice things up a bit. ::giggles::
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From: drkgriffon@aol.com (DrkGriffon)
Date: 11 Oct 1998 15:28:29 EDT
I for one agree there is no problem with children dueling. I for one am a 90-year-old. A child. As Quizxs said "A child's parents can simply say, 'The magic wand only saves those harmed in the Arena. Please do not 'duel' outside of the Arena.' " But also Quizxs it is not "wand" it is "ward." So as most can see it is truly safe for children to duel. Thank you for
your time.
-The 0-2-1 Commoner Xaron Arthrides
Date: 11 Oct 1998 15:28:29 EDT
I for one agree there is no problem with children dueling. I for one am a 90-year-old. A child. As Quizxs said "A child's parents can simply say, 'The magic wand only saves those harmed in the Arena. Please do not 'duel' outside of the Arena.' " But also Quizxs it is not "wand" it is "ward." So as most can see it is truly safe for children to duel. Thank you for
your time.
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From: kalamere@aol.com (Kalamere)
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:36:06 EDT
Although I have a daughter, I have never truly had the opportunity to be a parent... as such I cannot pass judgment on either side of this issue. That said - there are a couple items that should be clarified.
1) The word is "ward" not "wand" - more precisely, it is the Ward of Gondar, reinforced by the spirit of Athlstan the Cleric. (most of you know this already, but for those who do not - Gondar was the first Overlord of the Duel of Swords.. Athlstan was the 23rd and 27th)
2) The Ward of Gondar protects duelists from death and mortal injury. It does *not* protect from all injury. Do not hold the false impression that your children, or even yourselves, can not be wounded within the rings. Also note that if you, or your children, have some form of natural protection from magic, the Ward will not help you. Ian MacKenzie has such a natural enhancement and was once nearly beheaded within the rings... it took a good deal
of medical attention and months of rest for the man to recover from that duel.
3) Lastly, it is very common for children to be taught bladesmenship. I myself was gifted with a short sword on my 5th birthday. Two things need to be kept in mind however: (a) It is common that children learn the art of the blade with those of like skill.. generally other children. The reasons are not only in regard to the children being badly wounded. There is also the mental aspect.. it is helpful that those learning the art, fight against
those of like skill so that they do not suffer depression at having been severely outfought by a master or conversely that they do not become over confident of their skill at having defeated a master when said bladesman has been holding back against the child. (b) There is much more to the art of the blade and the art of warcraft then simply the ability to hit the opposition with a sharp object. Lessons on strategy and honor, companionship and
history and many other topics are taught to students by the finest bladesmen. I would hope that those parents who unleash their children in the arena are also seeing to the finer parts of education that are crucial to the responsibilities of a swordsman.
~Kalamere
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:36:06 EDT
Although I have a daughter, I have never truly had the opportunity to be a parent... as such I cannot pass judgment on either side of this issue. That said - there are a couple items that should be clarified.
1) The word is "ward" not "wand" - more precisely, it is the Ward of Gondar, reinforced by the spirit of Athlstan the Cleric. (most of you know this already, but for those who do not - Gondar was the first Overlord of the Duel of Swords.. Athlstan was the 23rd and 27th)
2) The Ward of Gondar protects duelists from death and mortal injury. It does *not* protect from all injury. Do not hold the false impression that your children, or even yourselves, can not be wounded within the rings. Also note that if you, or your children, have some form of natural protection from magic, the Ward will not help you. Ian MacKenzie has such a natural enhancement and was once nearly beheaded within the rings... it took a good deal
of medical attention and months of rest for the man to recover from that duel.
3) Lastly, it is very common for children to be taught bladesmenship. I myself was gifted with a short sword on my 5th birthday. Two things need to be kept in mind however: (a) It is common that children learn the art of the blade with those of like skill.. generally other children. The reasons are not only in regard to the children being badly wounded. There is also the mental aspect.. it is helpful that those learning the art, fight against
those of like skill so that they do not suffer depression at having been severely outfought by a master or conversely that they do not become over confident of their skill at having defeated a master when said bladesman has been holding back against the child. (b) There is much more to the art of the blade and the art of warcraft then simply the ability to hit the opposition with a sharp object. Lessons on strategy and honor, companionship and
history and many other topics are taught to students by the finest bladesmen. I would hope that those parents who unleash their children in the arena are also seeing to the finer parts of education that are crucial to the responsibilities of a swordsman.
~Kalamere
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From: kalamere@aol.com (Kalamere)
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:36:06 EDT
Although I have a daughter, I have never truly had the opportunity to be a parent... as such I cannot pass judgment on either side of this issue. That said - there are a couple items that should be clarified.
1) The word is "ward" not "wand" - more precisely, it is the Ward of Gondar, reinforced by the spirit of Athlstan the Cleric. (most of you know this already, but for those who do not - Gondar was the first Overlord of the Duel of Swords.. Athlstan was the 23rd and 27th)
2) The Ward of Gondar protects duelists from death and mortal injury. It does *not* protect from all injury. Do not hold the false impression that your children, or even yourselves, can not be wounded within the rings. Also note that if you, or your children, have some form of natural protection from magic, the Ward will not help you. Ian MacKenzie has such a natural enhancement and was once nearly beheaded within the rings... it took a good deal
of medical attention and months of rest for the man to recover from that duel.
3) Lastly, it is very common for children to be taught bladesmenship. I myself was gifted with a short sword on my 5th birthday. Two things need to be kept in mind however: (a) It is common that children learn the art of the blade with those of like skill.. generally other children. The reasons are not only in regard to the children being badly wounded. There is also the mental aspect.. it is helpful that those learning the art, fight against
those of like skill so that they do not suffer depression at having been severely outfought by a master or conversely that they do not become over confident of their skill at having defeated a master when said bladesman has been holding back against the child. (b) There is much more to the art of the blade and the art of warcraft then simply the ability to hit the opposition with a sharp object. Lessons on strategy and honor, companionship and
history and many other topics are taught to students by the finest bladesmen. I would hope that those parents who unleash their children in the arena are also seeing to the finer parts of education that are crucial to the responsibilities of a swordsman.
~Kalamere
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:36:06 EDT
Although I have a daughter, I have never truly had the opportunity to be a parent... as such I cannot pass judgment on either side of this issue. That said - there are a couple items that should be clarified.
1) The word is "ward" not "wand" - more precisely, it is the Ward of Gondar, reinforced by the spirit of Athlstan the Cleric. (most of you know this already, but for those who do not - Gondar was the first Overlord of the Duel of Swords.. Athlstan was the 23rd and 27th)
2) The Ward of Gondar protects duelists from death and mortal injury. It does *not* protect from all injury. Do not hold the false impression that your children, or even yourselves, can not be wounded within the rings. Also note that if you, or your children, have some form of natural protection from magic, the Ward will not help you. Ian MacKenzie has such a natural enhancement and was once nearly beheaded within the rings... it took a good deal
of medical attention and months of rest for the man to recover from that duel.
3) Lastly, it is very common for children to be taught bladesmenship. I myself was gifted with a short sword on my 5th birthday. Two things need to be kept in mind however: (a) It is common that children learn the art of the blade with those of like skill.. generally other children. The reasons are not only in regard to the children being badly wounded. There is also the mental aspect.. it is helpful that those learning the art, fight against
those of like skill so that they do not suffer depression at having been severely outfought by a master or conversely that they do not become over confident of their skill at having defeated a master when said bladesman has been holding back against the child. (b) There is much more to the art of the blade and the art of warcraft then simply the ability to hit the opposition with a sharp object. Lessons on strategy and honor, companionship and
history and many other topics are taught to students by the finest bladesmen. I would hope that those parents who unleash their children in the arena are also seeing to the finer parts of education that are crucial to the responsibilities of a swordsman.
~Kalamere
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From: kalamere@aol.com (Kalamere)
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:36:06 EDT
Although I have a daughter, I have never truly had the opportunity to be a parent... as such I cannot pass judgment on either side of this issue. That said - there are a couple items that should be clarified.
1) The word is "ward" not "wand" - more precisely, it is the Ward of Gondar, reinforced by the spirit of Athlstan the Cleric. (most of you know this already, but for those who do not - Gondar was the first Overlord of the Duel of Swords.. Athlstan was the 23rd and 27th)
2) The Ward of Gondar protects duelists from death and mortal injury. It does *not* protect from all injury. Do not hold the false impression that your children, or even yourselves, can not be wounded within the rings. Also note that if you, or your children, have some form of natural protection from magic, the Ward will not help you. Ian MacKenzie has such a natural enhancement and was once nearly beheaded within the rings... it took a good deal
of medical attention and months of rest for the man to recover from that duel.
3) Lastly, it is very common for children to be taught bladesmenship. I myself was gifted with a short sword on my 5th birthday. Two things need to be kept in mind however: (a) It is common that children learn the art of the blade with those of like skill.. generally other children. The reasons are not only in regard to the children being badly wounded. There is also the mental aspect.. it is helpful that those learning the art, fight against
those of like skill so that they do not suffer depression at having been severely outfought by a master or conversely that they do not become over confident of their skill at having defeated a master when said bladesman has been holding back against the child. (b) There is much more to the art of the blade and the art of warcraft then simply the ability to hit the opposition with a sharp object. Lessons on strategy and honor, companionship and
history and many other topics are taught to students by the finest bladesmen. I would hope that those parents who unleash their children in the arena are also seeing to the finer parts of education that are crucial to the responsibilities of a swordsman.
~Kalamere
Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:36:06 EDT
Although I have a daughter, I have never truly had the opportunity to be a parent... as such I cannot pass judgment on either side of this issue. That said - there are a couple items that should be clarified.
1) The word is "ward" not "wand" - more precisely, it is the Ward of Gondar, reinforced by the spirit of Athlstan the Cleric. (most of you know this already, but for those who do not - Gondar was the first Overlord of the Duel of Swords.. Athlstan was the 23rd and 27th)
2) The Ward of Gondar protects duelists from death and mortal injury. It does *not* protect from all injury. Do not hold the false impression that your children, or even yourselves, can not be wounded within the rings. Also note that if you, or your children, have some form of natural protection from magic, the Ward will not help you. Ian MacKenzie has such a natural enhancement and was once nearly beheaded within the rings... it took a good deal
of medical attention and months of rest for the man to recover from that duel.
3) Lastly, it is very common for children to be taught bladesmenship. I myself was gifted with a short sword on my 5th birthday. Two things need to be kept in mind however: (a) It is common that children learn the art of the blade with those of like skill.. generally other children. The reasons are not only in regard to the children being badly wounded. There is also the mental aspect.. it is helpful that those learning the art, fight against
those of like skill so that they do not suffer depression at having been severely outfought by a master or conversely that they do not become over confident of their skill at having defeated a master when said bladesman has been holding back against the child. (b) There is much more to the art of the blade and the art of warcraft then simply the ability to hit the opposition with a sharp object. Lessons on strategy and honor, companionship and
history and many other topics are taught to students by the finest bladesmen. I would hope that those parents who unleash their children in the arena are also seeing to the finer parts of education that are crucial to the responsibilities of a swordsman.
~Kalamere