First Round Fancys

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Date: 8/30/97 2:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: DarkAxe

As a self-acknowledged member of the "old-school," having been around before any of the active duelists today (with the exception of Xenograg), I will say this:

I agree with Elijah on one count: in my opinion, first round manuevers are mostly a "crap shoot." Unless a dueler has noticed a prevailing pattern in an opponent's first round manuevers, the first round is a guess. Therefore, in my opinion again, using a fancy in the first round is silly. If it works, will you get a full point? Sure, but I tend to lose or tie on almost every first round, so I really would rather not waste a fancy.
As for the using of a fancy in the first round's being dishonorable? Nah. I don't really count anything that an opponent does as being "dishonorable." The only thing that ticks me off a bit is using a fancy to defeat one's opponent, but that's a matter of my own personal biases because I had been taught as a younger duelist that using fancies to win duels is wrong. I certainly do not condemn anyone else for doing it.

-DA

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Date: 8/30/97 2:46 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Arlingond

Ulath,

Forgive me, but when you were a young dueler, a fancy gained an advantage even if the move lost, that was why it was frowned on to win a duel with a fancy. If you only needed an advantage to win, fancy it, because it was guaranteed. With the change in the fancy rule, you must win the round before you gain the advantage of the fancy, thus in my opinion changes the perspective considerably.

Arlingond

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Date: 8/30/97 3:07 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Alyxz

The use of fancy manuevers seems to be something of a controvery around here. I like using them, but I tend to be moderate, as I don't like too many patterns.

However, as someone who has remained a GM for several weeks now, I have in that time had the oportunity to defeat some duelists of higher rank than myself. I'm proud of those wins, even if I still lose more often than I win against the higher ranks, it heartens me to know that I can at least, hold my own.

I would hate to think they were not giving me all they had. I would rather lose 5-0 in five rounds than to be win simply becasue a warlord felt like patronizing a Gm.

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Date: 8/30/97 4:08 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: DravenIl

::wins something in the area of 80% of his first rounds, tired of hearing about this debate and the uselessness of first round fancies::