From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 03:09:43 EDT
Okay, this has me a tad irked.
Seems to me, that my best friend, Drakewyn, has been accused, in no uncertain terms, of cheating in her first challenge match way back when to Var.
This person said that her challenge was illegally done, and that the calls were "fudged".
When Drake busted in and ranted about this question on her honor, I felt obligated to make a metion on it, for I find it rather disgraceful that a challenge that happened so long ago, and was presented perfectly, I might add, would come into question.
Here are some facts on the matter for the idiot, the Major Idiot who questions her, I won't mention Aspens name in public:
1) Drakewyn had about 70+ Peer Wins from Different Warlords on hand to present.
2) These Peer wins were verified by the Duel of Swords Supervisor, Golden, instead of the standings keeper so no issue of falsification could be brought up, and submitted 39-40 of them, each one from a different Caller, to Golden.
3) Var knew in advance about the challenge, so there was no surprise there.
4) The Letter of the Law was followed in Drakewyn bringing forth challenge to Var, and I am 100% certain that Var would agree with that, and that there was no fault.
So, it goes to show you that people should think about finding all the facts before making their accusations. I do hope the coward who feared to come to Drake with these accusations himself, and sent Low IQ boy in his stead can now show himself and admit his errors.
I know Drake expects an apology, and so do I.
*G*
Ahem.
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From: casmaxim@aol.com (Cas Maxim)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 03:36:10 EDT
I find it disturbing that someone who so blatantly aided in the disgracing of the Eighth not too long ago now comes forth with the audacity to accuse a respected member of this Community of cheating in a match that could have been known for it's particular detail to rule, if anything, and happened before the accuser first dirtied the Arena with his presence.
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Date: 02 Sep 1999 03:36:10 EDT
I find it disturbing that someone who so blatantly aided in the disgracing of the Eighth not too long ago now comes forth with the audacity to accuse a respected member of this Community of cheating in a match that could have been known for it's particular detail to rule, if anything, and happened before the accuser first dirtied the Arena with his presence.
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From: morganalefay@aol.com (Morgana le Fay)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:26:45 EDT
If the accuser has some facts to back up the charge, then he should bring them forward. This is a strong accusation to make toward one of the more upstanding members of this community and if he thinks we should take his word backed by nothing against hers, her long-standing reputation, and care for detail during the matter in question, he is sadly mistaken.
Date: 02 Sep 1999 11:26:45 EDT
If the accuser has some facts to back up the charge, then he should bring them forward. This is a strong accusation to make toward one of the more upstanding members of this community and if he thinks we should take his word backed by nothing against hers, her long-standing reputation, and care for detail during the matter in question, he is sadly mistaken.
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From: aspenminds@aol.com (AspenMinds)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:26:31 EDT
First off, I didn't accuse her of it, I said i heard that she had.
Secondly, I'm very sorry I didn't go get the facts before bringing it up with her.
And Thirdly, My IQ is fairly high, I'm just a little impulsive, sorry.
When I asked the question I was asking wether or not this might be true and immediately got my head bit off. Sorry for trying to find out the truth.
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Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:26:31 EDT
First off, I didn't accuse her of it, I said i heard that she had.
Secondly, I'm very sorry I didn't go get the facts before bringing it up with her.
And Thirdly, My IQ is fairly high, I'm just a little impulsive, sorry.
When I asked the question I was asking wether or not this might be true and immediately got my head bit off. Sorry for trying to find out the truth.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:32:23 EDT
>>First off, I didn't accuse her of it, I said i heard that she had.
Secondly, I'm very sorry I didn't go get the facts before bringing it up with her.<<
I am, still, very interested in knowing just where this nice little rumor was heard and whom Aspen heard it from. Am I safe in asking others this question?
Percy
Date: 02 Sep 1999 16:32:23 EDT
>>First off, I didn't accuse her of it, I said i heard that she had.
Secondly, I'm very sorry I didn't go get the facts before bringing it up with her.<<
I am, still, very interested in knowing just where this nice little rumor was heard and whom Aspen heard it from. Am I safe in asking others this question?
Percy
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From: aspenminds@aol.com (AspenMinds)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:19:34 EDT
I can't say who said it.. I think they might have been kiddin' with me or something though...
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Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:19:34 EDT
I can't say who said it.. I think they might have been kiddin' with me or something though...
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From: quickvarmg@aol.com (QuickVarMG)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:24:13 EDT
You shouldn't have to say it, Aspen. The person should have the guts to say they said it themselves.
Personally, as I was involved with the challenge, I'm curious as to who started this rumor, as well. Drake, being the one accused, would probably want to know who's been saying this as well.
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Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:24:13 EDT
You shouldn't have to say it, Aspen. The person should have the guts to say they said it themselves.
Personally, as I was involved with the challenge, I'm curious as to who started this rumor, as well. Drake, being the one accused, would probably want to know who's been saying this as well.
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:36:39 EDT
> Personally, as I was involved with the challenge, I'm curious as to who
>started this rumor, as well. Drake, being the one accused, would probably
>want to know who's been saying this as well.
Oooh, I can assure you, Drake wants to know. She was visibly upset when she came to me about this. And if I were the accuser, I'd probably hide in cowardly fear myself, fearing the repurcussion of my lies.
Good thing it isn't me. For not only is this against Drake, but the official of the match, as well, as Drake was told the "Calls were fudged."
Myself, I'm highly curious of who was spreading these lies. We haven't had a good beating around here since, well.. Billy's three challenges in one night.
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:36:39 EDT
> Personally, as I was involved with the challenge, I'm curious as to who
>started this rumor, as well. Drake, being the one accused, would probably
>want to know who's been saying this as well.
Oooh, I can assure you, Drake wants to know. She was visibly upset when she came to me about this. And if I were the accuser, I'd probably hide in cowardly fear myself, fearing the repurcussion of my lies.
Good thing it isn't me. For not only is this against Drake, but the official of the match, as well, as Drake was told the "Calls were fudged."
Myself, I'm highly curious of who was spreading these lies. We haven't had a good beating around here since, well.. Billy's three challenges in one night.
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:40:46 EDT
>>Good thing it isn't me. For not only is this against Drake, but the official of the match, as well, as Drake was told the "Calls were fudged." <<
Given the circumstances of the challenge, and the attention Drake paid to detail, this an accusation against the caller of the match, Golden, Drake, and maybe even Var. In my opinion, this strikes me as on par with comments that have gotten other duelists disciplined in the past. Wouldn't you say, G?
Percy
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:40:46 EDT
>>Good thing it isn't me. For not only is this against Drake, but the official of the match, as well, as Drake was told the "Calls were fudged." <<
Given the circumstances of the challenge, and the attention Drake paid to detail, this an accusation against the caller of the match, Golden, Drake, and maybe even Var. In my opinion, this strikes me as on par with comments that have gotten other duelists disciplined in the past. Wouldn't you say, G?
Percy
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:52:14 EDT
>Given the circumstances of the challenge, and the attention Drake paid to
>detail, this an accusation against the caller of the match, Golden, Drake,
>and maybe even Var. In my opinion, this strikes me as on par with comments
>that have gotten other duelists disciplined in the past. Wouldn't you say, G?
>
>
> Percy
In a way yes, Percy. But there's a difference.
If you refer to the Zaradda/Kayne incident, Those two were accusing Alais during my challenge match, very publicly and very rudely.
Thus far, these accusations were brought to Drake directly and privately. It wasnt until she came to me, upset(And we know how I hate seeing a woman who is my best friend in distress), that I found out about it, and I brought it public.
I don't think disciplinary action could be called for in this case. However, that doesn't stop from privately taking care of a mess.
You know?
*G*
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:52:14 EDT
>Given the circumstances of the challenge, and the attention Drake paid to
>detail, this an accusation against the caller of the match, Golden, Drake,
>and maybe even Var. In my opinion, this strikes me as on par with comments
>that have gotten other duelists disciplined in the past. Wouldn't you say, G?
>
>
> Percy
In a way yes, Percy. But there's a difference.
If you refer to the Zaradda/Kayne incident, Those two were accusing Alais during my challenge match, very publicly and very rudely.
Thus far, these accusations were brought to Drake directly and privately. It wasnt until she came to me, upset(And we know how I hate seeing a woman who is my best friend in distress), that I found out about it, and I brought it public.
I don't think disciplinary action could be called for in this case. However, that doesn't stop from privately taking care of a mess.
You know?
*G*
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From: leducblanc@aol.com (LeDucBlanc)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:55:18 EDT
>>I don't think disciplinary action could be called for in this case. However, that doesn't stop from privately taking care of a mess.
You know?<<
Disciplinary action doesn't have to be official. It can be very casual.
You know?
Percy
Date: 02 Sep 1999 17:55:18 EDT
>>I don't think disciplinary action could be called for in this case. However, that doesn't stop from privately taking care of a mess.
You know?<<
Disciplinary action doesn't have to be official. It can be very casual.
You know?
Percy
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:00:48 EDT
>Disciplinary action doesn't have to be official. It can be very casual.
> You know?
Mmm.. I know.
You know? ::winks drawn here:: ;) ;)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:00:48 EDT
>Disciplinary action doesn't have to be official. It can be very casual.
> You know?
Mmm.. I know.
You know? ::winks drawn here:: ;) ;)
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From: aspenminds@aol.com (AspenMinds)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:30:30 EDT
Boy... with each passing word the statements get more outlandish and off from what was originally said...
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Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:30:30 EDT
Boy... with each passing word the statements get more outlandish and off from what was originally said...
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From: gnrtdrgoon@aol.com (GnrtDrgoon)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:41:11 EDT
>Boy... with each passing word the statements get more outlandish and off from
>what was originally said...
So then, why don't you, or this mystery accuser, come out and correct us and tell us exactly what was said?
I am sure Drake will be correcting us to the accusations.
Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:41:11 EDT
>Boy... with each passing word the statements get more outlandish and off from
>what was originally said...
So then, why don't you, or this mystery accuser, come out and correct us and tell us exactly what was said?
I am sure Drake will be correcting us to the accusations.
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From: dreystarke@aol.com (DreyStarke)
Date: 02 Sep 1999 20:04:52 EDT
Why don't you let Drake speak for herself, G.
And I doubt whomever said such a thing was serious and if he was, will not come out. So this was mostly useless. Unless we have a duelist dumb enough to show himself without true facts, we're going to have a faceless if not any duelists stepping forth.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke
Date: 02 Sep 1999 20:04:52 EDT
Why don't you let Drake speak for herself, G.
And I doubt whomever said such a thing was serious and if he was, will not come out. So this was mostly useless. Unless we have a duelist dumb enough to show himself without true facts, we're going to have a faceless if not any duelists stepping forth.
- Drey D'erest Sanchez Starke